Contour Enthusiasts Group CEG

Modifications >> Transaxle

Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | (show all)
Ray
Addicted CEG'er

Reged: 07/10/01
Posts: 7100
Loc: San Antonio/Austin, TX
Tranny Drain/Fill How-to W/PICS
#960062 - 06/04/05 05:24 AM

expanded on from:
original
Manual Transaxle Drain and Fill How-To

For the purpose of this how-to the following references will be used:
FORWARD:
facing the headlights of the car. Not actually AT the headlights (front) of the car, but FACING IT..
REAR: opposite of forward
Driver's side: facing the driver's side. Does not mean it is ON the driver's side. Example: the inside edge of your passenger rim is facing the driver's side.
passenger side: opposit of driver's side.


Parts:
  • Jack
  • Jack stand, or suitable support methods (no, a jack doesn't count...)
  • 3Qt (or more) Drain Pan
  • 8mm Allen Wrench

    or a T50 Torx bit


    (will depend on your particular car)
  • A method of getting the replacement fluid INTO the transaxle. There is a small plastic pump that you can buy made for this purpose..

    Autozone, or any parts store should carry them...
    Approx $5.29


Materials:
  • 3Qts of fluid (The classic tranny cocktail calls for synthetic ATF. Mobil 1 and Redline ATF work well. Yes, that's ATF, as in Automatic Transmission Fluid. Recently, many have tried Redline MTL, which is a synthetic gear lube that matches the specs for this transaxle. Redline will point out that MTL is not recommended for this application, but those that have tried it have said it works better than the other fluids available, including Ford's synthetic "honey" colored fluid. Ford's fluid (part #XT-M5-QS) runs nearly $20/qt, so MTL is quite attractive. Another option is ATF+3, a Chrysler spec'ed ATF that has the friction modifier already in it. It is much cheaper than the synthetics, but will require more frequent changes. In theory, any 75W90 gear oil will work as long as it is not rated GL-5, which contains additives that will damage the internals. GL-4 is the spec to satisfy for fluids.)
  • If you choose regular ATF, then you need a half a bottle of "Ford Friction Modifier" Part number:C8AZ-19B546-A



So: You've got a little grind in your tranny; Perhaps a little stiffness in your shifter? Maybe its been a while since you've changed the MTX (Manual Transaxle) fluid, huh? It isn't that hard, and improves your shifter feel almost instantly. Let's get down to it, huh?

We'll be working from the underside of the car, so if you are "sensitive" or just plain whiny you'll want to wear something to protect your delicate wittle arms from the mean ol' ground.

I suggest cardboard.

Drain Procedure:
  • Raise and support the vehicle. DO NOT WORK UNDERNEATH THE VEHICLE WITHOUT SOME MEANS OF SUPPORT (other than the jack itself). Jacks are not meant to SUPPORT the weight, only to lift it temporarily.. Failure to heed this warning could result in SEVERE INJURY OR DEATH.
  • Locate the MTX FILL plug. We want to find the fill plug first, even though it is full (for now). Using either the 8mm allen wrench, or the T50 torx bit, we need to loosen the plug just to make sure it WILL loosen. It would really suck to drain your tranny, then find out you can't put more in!
    The fill plug is located on the forward edge of the tranny as noted in this picture.

    You can make out the waterpump pulley on the upper left of the picture, for reference. It is underneath the front bumper, just to the rear of the lower splash shield.
  • re-tighten the fill plug (just so no dirt gets in there, though you shouldn't have taken it OUT.. just break it loose.
  • Locate the drain plug. It is located on the passenger side of the lowest part of the tranny. You can get a better overall understanding of it (and the entire process) by looking at this picture (source unknown)
  • Place your drain pan underneath the drain plug, and loosen the drain plug, draining whatever you can from the transaxle. do not replace the drain plug, yet
  • completely remove the FILL plug, now.
  • Using the pump, begin adding your fresh fluids to the MTX. This is a "fill-till-spill" process, so add fluid until you have reached the drain plug's opening, and begin to lose fluid. (this is why we left the drain plug off!)
  • replace both plugs (drain and fill)
  • lower the vehicle
  • dispose of old fluid according to locally enforced laws.


Enjoy your new shifter feel.

Remember, this is not a CURE for grinding gears, or failing synchros. It can certainly AID in prolonging your MTX's life, though, if you drive with CAUTION, and use the common sense rule: if it makes it grind, don't do it.. (high rev shifting, fast shifting, etc...)

APPROX 30 minutes of time.

Credit goes to PlatoSVT for his pictures of his tranny drain/fill. Thanks, man..

--------------------
'99 CSVT - Silver #222/276
In a constant state of blow-off euphoria.
Originally posted by Kremitthefrog:
I like to wear dresses and use binoculars to watch grandmas across the street.




Post Extras: Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Pole120
Hard-core CEG'er

Reged: 03/16/04
Posts: 4141
Loc: New Berlin, WI
Re: Tranny Drain/Fill How-to W/PICS new
#966827 (Re: Ray) 06/11/05 12:38 PM

one question, perhaps i'm just not grasping this.

the fil-till-spill is making me wonder, if we remove the drain plug, and drain the fluid, shouldn't the new fluid begin flowing out imediatly?

i guess i'm not getting how\why we're removing all the old fluid, then pumping in all the new fluid we need with the drain plug out. if fluid will stay in the trans with the plug out(aparently all that we need according to the directions) then all the old fluid is still in the tran is it not?

Quote:

This is a "fill-till-spill" process, so add fluid until you have reached the drain plug's opening, and begin to lose fluid. (this is why we left the drain plug off!)




--------------------
99 SE V6\5spd - 156 HP\157 TQ 15.166-90.84
Totaled 02/12/06

99 SVT # 1571 - 175 HP\153 TQ 14.999-91.88
Born 3/24/99 Reborn 3/18/06
Pietenpol Racing Technologies project vehicle

90 Festiva L 5spd, Blue(not for long), 103k

Post Extras: Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Marky
Hard-core CEG'er

Reged: 04/05/03
Posts: 1322
Loc: San Diego, CA
Re: Tranny Drain/Fill How-to W/PICS new
#966837 (Re: Pole120) 06/11/05 01:31 PM

Replace the drain plug, add fresh fluid.

--------------------

1999 Toreador Red SVT, DOB 4/22/99, 2005 Of 2760.

"Many posted questions are answered by farm boys"


Post Extras: Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Pole120
Hard-core CEG'er

Reged: 03/16/04
Posts: 4141
Loc: New Berlin, WI
Re: Tranny Drain/Fill How-to W/PICS new
#967063 (Re: Marky) 06/12/05 12:20 AM

thats not what the how-to says...hence my question.

--------------------
99 SE V6\5spd - 156 HP\157 TQ 15.166-90.84
Totaled 02/12/06

99 SVT # 1571 - 175 HP\153 TQ 14.999-91.88
Born 3/24/99 Reborn 3/18/06
Pietenpol Racing Technologies project vehicle

90 Festiva L 5spd, Blue(not for long), 103k

Post Extras: Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator
98Ford2L
CEG'er

Reged: 01/19/05
Posts: 453
Loc: ohio
Re: Tranny Drain/Fill How-to W/PICS new
#967169 (Re: Pole120) 06/12/05 03:26 AM

Originally posted by pole120:
thats not what the how-to says...hence my question.




Yeah i wondered the same thing too. Maybe it because it's late and I'm tired and can't think straight though.

-Peter

Post Extras: Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Pole120
Hard-core CEG'er

Reged: 03/16/04
Posts: 4141
Loc: New Berlin, WI
Re: Tranny Drain/Fill How-to W/PICS new
#968697 (Re: 98Ford2L) 06/14/05 12:51 AM

ray.....can we get a clarification on this??

josh

--------------------
99 SE V6\5spd - 156 HP\157 TQ 15.166-90.84
Totaled 02/12/06

99 SVT # 1571 - 175 HP\153 TQ 14.999-91.88
Born 3/24/99 Reborn 3/18/06
Pietenpol Racing Technologies project vehicle

90 Festiva L 5spd, Blue(not for long), 103k

Post Extras: Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator
unisys12Moderator
Hard-core CEG'er

Reged: 09/08/02
Posts: 3944
Loc: Corinth, MS
Re: Tranny Drain/Fill How-to W/PICS new
#968934 (Re: Pole120) 06/14/05 03:28 AM

Originally posted by pole120:
ray.....can we get a clarification on this??

josh




I'll take a stab at this...

There is a drain plug and a fill plug. You remove the drain plug, to drain the fluid, and then replace it. You then remove the fill plug and fill the tranny until the fluid just starts to spill out of the plug hole. Then replace the fill plug.

--------------------
Phillip Jackson
`98 Mystique LS
262K+ and counting...
ATX rebuilt @ 151K

"This storm has broken me, my only friend!" RIP Dime

Post Extras: Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Pole120
Hard-core CEG'er

Reged: 03/16/04
Posts: 4141
Loc: New Berlin, WI
Re: Tranny Drain/Fill How-to W/PICS new
#968996 (Re: unisys12) 06/14/05 04:18 AM

that explaination makes sence, but once again, that not what the how-to states, there is no mention of replacing the drain plug and then adding more fluid.

i'm not trying to nit pick here, just want to make sure this is clear to all who read it.

--------------------
99 SE V6\5spd - 156 HP\157 TQ 15.166-90.84
Totaled 02/12/06

99 SVT # 1571 - 175 HP\153 TQ 14.999-91.88
Born 3/24/99 Reborn 3/18/06
Pietenpol Racing Technologies project vehicle

90 Festiva L 5spd, Blue(not for long), 103k

Post Extras: Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Ray
Addicted CEG'er

Reged: 07/10/01
Posts: 7100
Loc: San Antonio/Austin, TX
Re: Tranny Drain/Fill How-to W/PICS new
#969120 (Re: Pole120) 06/14/05 06:32 AM

The drain plug is on the bottom.. the fill is on the side.

LOOSEN fill (make sure it WILL loosen)
remove drain, as stated.. drain it.
replace drain plug.
remove fill plug and fill until fluid begins to spill out of the fill plug. (technically the procedure calls for 0.5mm below the fill bore)

The inconsistencies in this how-to are due to gross negligence on my part, and a (seemingly blatant) inability to cope without sleep.

Apologies to all.

Ray



--------------------
'99 CSVT - Silver #222/276
In a constant state of blow-off euphoria.
Originally posted by Kremitthefrog:
I like to wear dresses and use binoculars to watch grandmas across the street.




Post Extras: Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Stylin55_oh
Veteran CEG'er

Reged: 03/22/03
Posts: 712
Loc: northeast ohio
Re: Tranny Drain/Fill How-to W/PICS new
#969292 (Re: Ray) 06/14/05 01:29 PM

LOL.. I read that and thought the same thing, and for a minute i thought.. "wow there must be some wierd trick to this". Then i decided, no. someone just forgot a step. Good how to tho, just missed one small detail.

--------------------
1998.5 Diamond White Pearl SVT (#4725)
custom exhaust/intake k&N/mod'ed y-pipe
slotted rotors/greenstuff pads/SS lines
cougar trans/FSVT shift tower/Torsen
16lb. flywheel
18" Velox VX-8's with some rubba bands


Post Extras: Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | (show all)


Extra information
0 registered and 23 anonymous users are browsing this forum.

Moderator:  RoadRunner, unisys12 

Print Thread

Permissions
You cannot start new topics
You cannot reply to topics
HTML is enabled
UBBCode is enabled

Thread views: 15058

Jump to

Contact Us Contour.org

*
UBB.threads™ 6.2.3

Generated in 0.023 seconds in which 0.016 seconds were spent on a total of 14 queries. Zlib compression enabled.

Copyright 1999-2005 Lance Kinley

CEG and contour.org are not affiliated with nor endorsed by Ford Motor Company