Contour Enthusiasts Group CEG

Modifications >> Transaxle

Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | (show all)
OutlawdSVT
CEG'er

Reged: 11/24/00
Posts: 218
Loc: Grandview MO
Re: Synchro part numbers new
#808772 (Re: midway22) 01/04/05 04:18 AM

Just to let people know what I just went through. I had grinding going into 3rd so I figured since I'm going to have to pull the tranny out myself that I would try ang get everything needed to tackle this task so that I wouldn't have to do this again anytime soon and get all the parts up front.
Just so you know if you have the same 3rd gear problem I did you will NEED to replace the brass parts since that they are the #1 wear items for this problem, next the obvious is replace sychros. That is not all to my surprise the 3rd gear out of my 2000 is out dated and Ford has a revised and I was not able to match the new parts w/ my factory 3rd gear I was told that Ford NO longer makes the parts that would work w/ my 3rd gear out of my tranny and the associated new parts like the brass teeth and sychros. So after going back and forth w/ Ford and the machine/tranny shop I was getting a little iritated knowing that my car was on jack stands @ my house and all I wanted was the right parts to get my car back on the road again.
SO if you are planning to tackle this task yourself you will need a machine press to get the outer bearing off the shaft and that it should be replaced F8RZ7025BA I believe (Ford CD says Not reusable) You will need updated 3rd gear w/ (2) YM2Z7107EB Brass rings (1) F*RZ7124BA Synchronizer Assembly.
Good Luck and thanks for reading my experience and hopefully others will learn from it.



--------------------
2000 Black SVT Contour
He who says Nitrous is cheating just got beat.
www.Fast4doors.com

Post Extras: Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator
dukeofsho
CEG'er

Reged: 07/31/04
Posts: 256
Loc: Oak Lawn, IL
Re: Synchro part numbers new
#900937 (Re: OutlawdSVT) 04/07/05 03:19 AM

Ok a few more dumb questions.. My trans feels rough from 3rd to 4th on cold days only. BUt..since im going to drop the trans for a clutch replacement I thought I update it. From the research i just did these are the numers I came up with:

1-2 shifter fork $19.43
3-4 Shifter fork $22.45

Syncro 3-4 $35.89
Syncro Cone $40.05
Syncro blocking ring-3rd inner and outer, 4th & 5th $47.71

Oil seals $26.49

About $193.14 to update tranny
Is there anything i'm missing here?


Then im looking at the shift tower update for around $212.55
What this do?

I want to make sure I have all the stuff here when im ready to do the clutch.








--------------------
98 CSVT some mods..but not alot
http://www.cardomain.com/id/dukeofshosvt
Have Questions About Headlight Projectors Or LED Tailights...Ask The Godfather...
http://www.chicagoceg.com


Post Extras: Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Bugzuki
CEG'er

Reged: 05/08/04
Posts: 137
Loc: Monroe, WA
Re: Synchro part numbers new
#903822 (Re: dukeofsho) 04/09/05 04:27 PM

I recently got quotes and bought some parts.

Here is the quote that I got

1-2 Shift Fork YS2Z-7230-BA $22.63
3-4 Shift Fork YS4Z-7230-AD $22.45
5-R Shift Fork XS8Z-7230-DD $22.69
Syncronizer Blocking Ring (1st & 2nd; Outer) F5RZ-7107-B $20.81
Syncronizer Blocking Ring (1st & 2nd; Inner) YS4Z-7107-DA $19.24
Syncronizer Blocking Ring (3rd Inner) F5RZ-7107-DA
Syncronizer Blocking Ring (3rd Outer) F5RZ-7107-A $28.03
Syncronizer Blocking Ring (4th & 5th) YM2Z-7107-EB $10.30
Syncronizer Blocking Ring (Reverse) YS4Z-7107-GA $19.24
1-2 Syncronizer F8RZ-7124-AA $90.22
3-4 Syncronizer F8RZ-7124-BA $36.51
5-R Syncronizer 97ZZ-7124-CB $63.95
Syncronizer Cone (3-4 related) F8RZ-7M000-BB $40.05
1st Gear (Needle Bearing) F5RZ-7K274-A $12.20
2nd Gear (Bearing) F5RZ-7K169-A $35.27
4th Gear (Needle Bearing) F5RZ-7K171-A $9.62
5th Gear (Needle Bearing) F5RZ-7K275-A $7.39
Reverse Gear (Bearing) F5RZ-7M037-A $20.77
Input Front (Bearing) F5RZ-7025-A $19.81
Input Rear (Bearing) F8RZ-7025-BA $21.41
Output Front (Grooved Bearing) F8RZ-7F431-BB $15.15
Output Rear (Ungrooved Bearing) F8RZ-7F431-AA $14.61
Oil Seal (Input) F5RZ-7048-AA $7.42
Oil Seal (Output) F5RZ-1S177-AA $6.79
Transmission Sealer (maybe not correct) 19B508 (TA-14) $19.13
Redline MTL 75W/80W 50204 $7.95

In that list there are 4 bearings that I did not find anywhere else in this thread. The bearings are the input and output shaft bearings: F5RZ-7025-A, F8RZ-7025-BA, F8RZ-7F431-BB and F8RZ-7F431-AA. It would be cool if they were added to the excel spreadsheet.


--------------------
1998 Contour SVT Black w/ Blue interior
Torsen LSD updated shiftforks
Lightened Flywheel, HD Drivelines
Optimized Thottle Body
2003 3.0L engine upgrade (Soon to be)

Post Extras: Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator
fordrule
CEG'er

Reged: 07/31/04
Posts: 124
Loc: korea, soon Savannah GA
Re: Part #'s Upgraded MTX 75 Transmission shift forks+ new
#981863 (Re: warmonger) 06/25/05 09:16 AM

i have a question is there a part number for the mtx-75 tranny mount?

--------------------
2000 mercury cougar V6 5spd
3.0L SVT mated to my HMS tranny......

a wolf in sheeps clothing

Post Extras: Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Bradness
CEG'er

Reged: 06/01/00
Posts: 291
Loc: Greater Toronto Area, Canada
Re: Pictures of Warmongers Transmission new
#1144661 (Re: warmonger) 01/12/06 02:38 PM

I tore my 95 trans apart last weekend. Although the assembly date of the car was 2/95, many parts are build dated in 94 or 1/95. I used the updated shifter forks and each 1 was different from the stock parts. There were NO ball bearing type bearings on any of the existing shift forks. All were a babbet type bearing. Also, there was no splash shield on the 2-3 fork.

The how-to posted here was OK, but there are a no. of differences with the rod actuated trans. I did not upgrade the shifter tower although I believe it could work. Getting the new forks in the case correctly was a bit tricky. The shafts were in fabulous shape considering the transaxle has over 155,000 miles on it.

Trans is not in the car yet so I cannot comment on improved shift feel. Anyone with an early, wishing to do this job can PM me for help or info., if so desired.

--------------------
Redcoat Raceworks. Performance parts and custom fabricating for Contours, Mystiques and Cougars. Specializing in chassis and suspension parts. Custom end links, control arms, strut tower bars, engine torque braces, etc.

Post Extras: Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator
todras
I have no life

Reged: 05/29/00
Posts: 21197
Loc: Grand Rapids, MI
Re: Pictures of Warmongers Transmission new
#1144674 (Re: Bradness) 01/12/06 03:03 PM

Originally posted by Bradness:
All were a babbet type bearing. Also, there was no splash shield on the 2-3 fork.





The two forks are 1st/2nd, VERY early had b/bearings
now the Focus 1st/2nd has them, other is 3rd/4th with
revised splash shield...Read the damm CD, does have pictures!!!

Also, there was no splash shield on the 2-3 fork.

Originally posted by Bradness:

Wrong fork....3rd/4th fork has the splash shield..





Originally posted by Bradness:

I did not upgrade the shifter tower although I believe it could work.




...rod shift will not accept a cable shift tower!



--------------------
-'96 SE MTX 3L
-'98 SVT 1,173 of 6,535
-'05 Mazda 6s, loaded, g/f's ride
-Need a 96-00 manual on CD? PM or email me


Post Extras: Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Bradness
CEG'er

Reged: 06/01/00
Posts: 291
Loc: Greater Toronto Area, Canada
Re: Pictures of Warmongers Transmission new
#1145218 (Re: todras) 01/13/06 02:05 AM

"The two forks are 1st/2nd, VERY early had b/bearings
now the Focus 1st/2nd has them, other is 3rd/4th with
revised splash shield...Read the damm CD, does have pictures!!!"

Hey I wasn't sure which was which, didn't check the p/n's on the box, I was just getting in and out, doing the damn job. I used Tom's description of which fork had the splash shield on it so get on him, not me!

What CD are you referring to? My 95 Ford manual is a HARD COPY (if that's what you're talking about). When you're on dial up, pictures are a luxury I don't have (unless I want to wait & wait & wait). Understand now?



--------------------
Redcoat Raceworks. Performance parts and custom fabricating for Contours, Mystiques and Cougars. Specializing in chassis and suspension parts. Custom end links, control arms, strut tower bars, engine torque braces, etc.

Post Extras: Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator
warmonger
Hard-core CEG'er

Reged: 08/16/01
Posts: 5810
Loc: Ozark, AL
Re: Don't feed the trolls new
#1145223 (Re: Bradness) 01/13/06 02:14 AM

Don't defend yourself! You posted what you could and if a correction is needed to be made then that's okay too. Although a little politeness should be in order I'd think!
It's been so long I could have made a mistake on the numbering, but it wasn't meant to be the end-all of transmission repairs. It was meant to take out the mystery of doing light work to these transmissions so that others could benefit.
Someone is riding this forum like a friggin harpy so you should expect that any post on here will take flak.

--------------------
Former owner of '99 CSVT - Silver #222/2760
356/334 wHP/TQ at 10psi on pump gas!
See My Mods
'05 Volvo S40 Turbo 5 AWD with 6spd, Passion Red
'06 Mazda5 Touring, 5spd,MTX, Black

Post Extras: Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator
ctmystique
CEG'er

Reged: 01/02/06
Posts: 122
Loc: Enfield, CT
Re: Pictures of Warmongers Transmission new
#1157175 (Re: Bradness) 01/30/06 03:04 AM

Does anyone have some pictures of the syncro parts? I just picked up a used trans and tore it apart to upgrade it and was wondering if someone could help me to determine if the syncros were still good or should I replace them. I've got pictures but seeing as I'm still kinda new here I'm not sure how to post pics yet. I know it need the fork and tower upgrade, but there's no point if it's got bad syncros and I can't tell by looking. I don't see any wear or ground metal, should I go by feel?

Any help would be appreciated.

--------------------
For Sale 98+ SVT gauge cluster

'98 Mystique LS
2.5l 5spd

Post Extras: Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Kremithefrog
I have no life

Reged: 05/14/02
Posts: 21653
Loc: Albany, Georgia
Re: Part #'s Upgraded MTX 75 Transmission shift fo new
#1170141 (Re: warmonger) 02/16/06 01:47 AM

Originally posted by warmonger:

1-2 Fork: XS8Z 7230 DD $18.28
3-4 Fork: YS4Z 7230 AD $24.98
5-R Fork: YS2Z 7230 BA $17.57




Using teamfordparts.com it shows the 5-R shift fork being what you listed as the 1-2 fork and vice versa.
What is correct?

--------------------
98.5 SVT
91 Escort GT (almost sold)
96 ATX Zetec (i brake to watch you swerve)

FS: SVT rear sway bar
WTB: Very cheap beater

CEG Dragon Run - October 13-15

Post Extras: Print Post Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | (show all)


Extra information
0 registered and 6 anonymous users are browsing this forum.

Moderator:  RoadRunner, unisys12 

Print Thread

Permissions
You cannot start new topics
You cannot reply to topics
HTML is enabled
UBBCode is enabled

Thread views: 34462

Jump to

Contact Us Contour.org

*
UBB.threads™ 6.2.3

Generated in 0.046 seconds in which 0.037 seconds were spent on a total of 14 queries. Zlib compression enabled.

Copyright 1999-2005 Lance Kinley

CEG and contour.org are not affiliated with nor endorsed by Ford Motor Company