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bnoon
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Any interest in tubular adj. rear control arms?
#513562 - 01/27/04 07:12 PM

As the title says... Adjustable rear control arms... Any interest? Polished aluminum most likely, with rod ends in varying grades/expenses for racing.

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Re: Any interest in tubular adj. rear control arms? new
#513582 (Re: bnoon) 01/27/04 07:23 PM

Yes

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Re: Any interest in tubular adj. rear control arms? new
#513594 (Re: Mod-deth) 01/27/04 07:46 PM

I would not recommend aluminum. Cro-moly steel would be better. This would include all the hardware to space the heim joint correctly in the rear subframe correct? What ballpark price are you talking about?

I've already boxed in the forward arms in preperation of making adjustable rear arms.

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Re: Any interest in tubular adj. rear control arms? new
#513605 (Re: Zip-Zap-Pow!) 01/27/04 08:01 PM

Originally posted by Zip-Zap-Pow!:
I would not recommend aluminum. Cro-moly steel would be better. This would include all the hardware to space the heim joint correctly in the rear subframe correct? What ballpark price are you talking about?

I've already boxed in the forward arms in preperation of making adjustable rear arms.




The aluminum has a tensile pullout strength constant of over 19,000 pounds and a compression strength of over 80,000. A huge pothole has 4 times the load bearing strength for each wheel. 4,000 pound car = 1,000 pounds per wheel times 4 = 4,000 load = less than 4.5 times the constant... That's also good to over 4 lateral G's. Granted, your car will handle better, but not that much better! You wish! The only reason to go with steel over aluminum is if you're planning on an off road rally event!

Circle track racers use aluminum, drag cars use aluminum, many street cars use aluminum. It's mostly a matter of keeping 1" minimum threads entered on the rod ends...

The target price is around $150 per pair for the entry level ones and around $250 or so for the ones with heavy duty rod ends (last up to ten times longer). This will include all bolts/spacers/etc needed for installation. Powder coating will most likely be an upgrade option too through Buckshot Motorsports (he's here in town).

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Re: Any interest in tubular adj. rear control arms? new
#513632 (Re: bnoon) 01/27/04 08:17 PM

Will they fit on the 99-00 Cougars??

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Re: Any interest in tubular adj. rear control arms? new
#513665 (Re: mr_froge) 01/27/04 08:37 PM

Brad, any way you could come up with some front control arms (horizonal style bushings)? I know TH was working on them at one point.

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Re: Any interest in tubular adj. rear control arms? new
#513681 (Re: Stevers) 01/27/04 08:45 PM

Originally posted by mr_froge:
Will they fit on the 99-00 Cougars??




My guess is yes, they would work. I know the Cougars share most, if not all, of their suspension with the tours.

Originally posted by Trogdor Burninator:
Brad, any way you could come up with some front control arms (horizonal style bushings)? I know TH was working on them at one point.




Nope. Front suspension is much harder to fabricate and prone to failure because it involves welding. The rear bars I'm making are easier to failsafe because they're already tested for strength and will be unaltered from initial design (straight rod, no welding). If I made front arms, I would have to test those welds to make sure I wouldn't kill someone.

<Possability> I will be having spherical adjustable links for the sway bars too though, which *should* work on all four corners. </Possability>

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Re: Any interest in tubular adj. rear control arms? new
#513759 (Re: bnoon) 01/27/04 09:52 PM

I would buy a set.

I installed poly bushings in the stock ones and IMO it made no difference. Well other then the fact the bushings will never rot away.

The stock control arms are just too structurally weak to notice any difference in bushing material. I even added a few more insulators to help to no avail.

I was already planning to remove them (when it's warmer ) and fill them with 94A urethane casting compound (I.E. soft rock ) like I did the front control arms & roll resistors.

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Re: Any interest in tubular adj. rear control arms? new
#513768 (Re: DemonSVT) 01/27/04 10:01 PM

Good. All I have to do is get some measurements and these will be started... Stock arm center to center is what I need in case someone can get it quicker than I can. I have to find time to go over to Buckshot's house to measure his since my test mule is long gone...

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Re: Any interest in tubular adj. rear control arms? new
#513791 (Re: bnoon) 01/27/04 10:29 PM

Originally posted by bnoon:
Good. All I have to do is get some measurements and these will be started... Stock arm center to center is what I need in case someone can get it quicker than I can. I have to find time to go over to Buckshot's house to measure his since my test mule is long gone...




What, you mean you don't need 30 confirmed buyers with cash up front? What are you, a real entrepreneur?

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