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I'll be keeping it to myself, until the time comes. It'll be hard to find.

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much like your weiner.

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Originally posted by Tourgasm:

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Sometimes you can mess up a word so bad that spell check doens't know what the hell you're talking about.

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Originally posted by MxRacer:

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Originally posted by RawBurt:

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I'll be keeping it to myself, until the time comes. It'll be hard to find.

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much like your weiner.

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Originally posted by Tourige:

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so the Koni springs are good? i E-mailed AJUSA about the kit and they said that it came with Eibach springs..

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IIRC it is not the same Eibach springs that are sold separately here in the states.
At least we hope not being those give fugly ass sag.

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2000 SVT #674
13.47 @ 102 - All Motor!

It was not broke; Yet I fixed it anyway.

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Originally posted by Tourige:

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i E-mailed AJUSA about the kit and they said that it came with Eibach springs..

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i had the WORST experience with ajusa with the TERRIBLE shipping standards. after i finally got my kit after many hours waisted on the phone/net, i decided i will never buy anything from them again.

-a

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koni kit - hpp rstb
camber/plates - cf (yikes!)
polyroll resistors - TCA's
WR headers/ypipe -TB hiflow cat
SFC's - XCal2
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Originally posted by 5V7 Dr1v3r627:

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I run Koni's and B+G Sports and i love it. The b+g's were cheaper through my GB which i believe is still good.

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the GB is still good? is it in the GB forums?

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99 TRed Contour SVT # 1853 out of 2760
230.2 WHP @ 6500
237.0 WTR @ 2250

Originally posted by MxRacer:

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Originally posted by RawBurt:

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I'll be keeping it to myself, until the time comes. It'll be hard to find.

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much like your weiner.

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Originally posted by Tourige:

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Originally posted by 5V7 Dr1v3r627:

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I run Koni's and B+G Sports and i love it. The b+g's were cheaper through my GB which i believe is still good.

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the GB is still good? is it in the GB forums?

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Yeah should be good to go still. I feel nice so here's the link. Here you go.

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~Alex
Ex- SVT Driver627

MUST SELL!!!LOCAL:
Pre-98 MOLDED trunk
Polk db speakers
Corolla parts
LED Underbody Kit
PM

2000 Green CSVT gone on 2/17/06
2001 Toyota Corolla (SHE RUNS!!!)
1989 Mustang LX 5.0

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Originally posted by MxRacer:

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Originally posted by RawBurt:

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I'll be keeping it to myself, until the time comes. It'll be hard to find.

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much like your weiner.

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Originally posted by Tourige:

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Whats the Reliability on the B&G and Koni Springs?

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Near perfect. You can't get much better...

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Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.

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Originally posted by DemonSVT:

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Originally posted by Tourige:

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so the Koni springs are good? i E-mailed AJUSA about the kit and they said that it came with Eibach springs..

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IIRC it is not the same Eibach springs that are sold separately here in the states.
At least we hope not being those give fugly ass sag.

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I recently contacted Koni directly to find out the truth about this rummor of Eibach springs on the Sport Kit. Here is my e-mail and the responce from Koni...

Koni,
My question is, I have a brand new set of koni struts ft/rr for my 2000 Ford Contour SVT in the fatory box (never installed). I am currently running Eibach Pro springs. I plan to install my koni's very soon but now that the Koni Sport kit w/springs is available for the 2000 Controu SVT I am torn between installing the Koni's with my Eibach Pro springs or selling/exchanging my Koni's and springs and going for the complete Koni Sport kit. I have heard that the Koni kit is using Eibach springs, it there any truth to this and if so is it the same springs as the Eibach Pro? If the springs are different my feeling is Koni designed the struts and springs to work together for this application and would it be a better or basically the same. Please help me clear this up, what would you recommmend ? Thanks, Scott Denny

Scott,
Yes the KONI springs (which are now available for purchase separately) are matched to the Sport shocks and lower the vehicle 40mm (1.57"). I am not sure how much your Eibach's lower it. The springs used in the Sport Kit are not manufactured through Eibach but through a German manufacturer to KONI specs. Since you already have the Eibach's on the vehicle you can either; install the KONI sports and then see what you think or if you want to have the matching set you could contact the dealer you bought them through and see if they would take back the shocks you have and replace them with the full kit and you pay the difference. The KONI's work well with Eibach so it would just be up to you if you want to pay the difference to have the KONI springs.

Thank you,

Stoney Hamilton
Toll Free: 800-922-2616 x6
PH: 859-488-0331
FX: 859-334-3340


Also...

Apparently not everybody gets this so called a$$ sag I keep hereing about

Been running Eibach's since June '03 on SVT struts and no problems or sag that I can see





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Scott
2000 Contour SVT #1464
Mustang Dyno: 171.6hp/145.3lb
Dynojet Dyno: 171.1hp/148.9lb

1989 20th Anniversary Turbo T/A "Indy 500 Pace Car"
#1376 of 1550 All Original, 46k with a few mods

2002 F150 SuperCrew

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Originally posted by Tourgasm:

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Sometimes you can mess up a word so bad that spell check doens't know what the hell you're talking about.

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Originally posted by svt4stv:

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i believe they are referring to the fact that back sits lower than the front. i think it looks 100x better than the H&R Joe Dirt look.

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Yeah, but I have measured mine several times over the years and the back is always a little bit higher

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Scott
2000 Contour SVT #1464
Mustang Dyno: 171.6hp/145.3lb
Dynojet Dyno: 171.1hp/148.9lb

1989 20th Anniversary Turbo T/A "Indy 500 Pace Car"
#1376 of 1550 All Original, 46k with a few mods

2002 F150 SuperCrew

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Originally posted by todras:

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The angle isn't doing anything for those cars. They sag. Extra gravity pushing on the rear of the car on a slight incline? Maybe not with certain struts but come to any SZ and ask the owners why they have ass sag. "Um I have Eibach's."

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I call total BS. Double to you, Toddio!

Yes, parking on an incline will change the weight distribution, and the struts will not prevent it. (Struts damp motion--get it?)

I can't say that it has never happened, but I think the vast majority of "AS" cases out there are based on an ocular illusion, perhaps made worse by SVT bodywork.

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'96 Contour SE

"Toss the Contour into a corner, and it's as easy to catch as a softball thrown by a preschooler." -Edmunds, 1998

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Originally posted by Tourgasm:

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Sometimes you can mess up a word so bad that spell check doens't know what the hell you're talking about.

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Originally posted by svt4stv:

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so youre saying is that the car's bodywork makes it APPEAR to have ass sag

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Yep. It doesn't "appear" to have it. It has it plain and simple. I described why it looks that way. I don't care what other car is that way. If it's arse appears lower than the front by the naked eye it looks gheyzorz. Eibach's are the only springs that make it look that way. Have not seen pics of any other Contour spring that give the same stance. You can argue all day about "hills", "weight distribution", Hollywood special effects camera angle's etc etc. Take almost any Eibach'd car to a car guy and ask him his opinion on stance. scottd60's car is one of the few that doesn't appear to have it. Don't know if it's the struts he's using or what but his appears to have a nice stance.

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-'98 SVT 1,173 of 6,535
-'05 Mazda 6s, loaded, g/f's ride
-Need a 96-00 manual on CD? PM or email me


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Originally posted by todras:

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Eibach sag!







Cut & paste
http://svt.sho.tripod.com/spring_zing/sz2k1_14.jpg

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These two I'll aggree...maybe it also has to do with whats in your trunk as well Mine is empty, clean and stock not 100lbs of amps, wooden boxes and huge subs

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Scott
2000 Contour SVT #1464
Mustang Dyno: 171.6hp/145.3lb
Dynojet Dyno: 171.1hp/148.9lb

1989 20th Anniversary Turbo T/A "Indy 500 Pace Car"
#1376 of 1550 All Original, 46k with a few mods

2002 F150 SuperCrew

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Originally posted by scottd60:

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Maybe it has [something] to do with what [you have] in your trunk as well Mine is empty, clean and stock not 100lbs of amps, wooden boxes and huge subs

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Thanks Scott, you took the words right out of my mouth.

You can have AS with any spring if you put enough junk in your trunk.

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The Original Owner of 1998 SVT Contour #3384 of 6535,
Toreador Red/Midnight Blue, Assembled September 3rd, 1997

Also the Original Owner of a 1998.5 Contour SE Sport V6 5-speed,
Vibrant White/Greystone Sport Cloth, Assembled August 6th, 1998

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Originally posted by MxRacer:

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Originally posted by RawBurt:

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I'll be keeping it to myself, until the time comes. It'll be hard to find.

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much like your weiner.

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Originally posted by NVSVT:

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Originally posted by scottd60:

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Maybe it has [something] to do with what [you have] in your trunk as well Mine is empty, clean and stock not 100lbs of amps, wooden boxes and huge subs

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Thanks Scott, you took the words right out of my mouth.

You can have AS with any spring if you put enough junk in your trunk.

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I know most of those cars don't have bog stereo's. Keep trying. Mark's car didn't have anything in it.

Cut & paste
http://svt.sho.tripod.com/spring_zing/sz2k1_14.jpg


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-'96 SE MTX 3L
-'98 SVT 1,173 of 6,535
-'05 Mazda 6s, loaded, g/f's ride
-Need a 96-00 manual on CD? PM or email me


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Originally posted by svt4stv:

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so youre saying is that the car's bodywork makes it APPEAR to have ass sag like pretty much every other car. look at the 3 series. the rear will be tucking tire while front does not (if level). if i were to put H&Rs on my car with those 19z the rear end probably wouldnt clear the opening of underground parking garages.

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I'm inclined to agree. It's an optical allusion IMHO. There are several areas on our cars that, depending on the vantage point, look out of kilter. One is that the rear wheels appear not to be centered in the wheel arch but forward of the center line. Another is the front track is wider than the rear which is one thing I hate on front drive cars. While those two examples aren't allusions, this one about rear sag - if you measure from the top of the tire to the top of the fender arch, yes, it looks like the rear is lower. I don't think there is really anyway to tell since the body cladding (at least on SVT's) is not symmetrical - that is, it's not equidistant from the ground when measuring the front and rear of the side skirt or measuring the distance to the ground from the bottom of the front or rear bumper covers.
Karl

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06 F150 Supercrew 5.4L FX4
98 SVT Contour #4362 Born 1/6/1998
86 Ranger GT (For Sale)
69 Fiat 850 Sport Spider (For Sale)
67 Formula-S Barracuda

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Originally posted by 88SVT:

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I just had a thought but not soon enough to edit my first post. I suppose one way to measure front and rear ride height - to determine once and for all whether or not the rear "sags" is to remove the side skirts and then measure the distance between the bottom of the body just after the front wheel and just before the rear one. Maybe that would do the trick.
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No need to remove the skirts. You can get behind them and place a level against the bottom of the rocker section.

Anyway, by Todd's definition, all SVTs have ass sag, even at stock ride height. By his definition, in which appearance=reality, I think the SVT's rear bumper makes the rear look too low. And that is a matter of personal taste only.

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Function before fashion.
'96 Contour SE

"Toss the Contour into a corner, and it's as easy to catch as a softball thrown by a preschooler." -Edmunds, 1998

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