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Kremithefrog
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Re: Thus ends the Contour's autocross career. new
#1287906 (Re: TRicker) 07/28/06 03:10 AM

Originally posted by TRicker:
i hear a 95 tour' is crap as far as chassis goes compared to a SVT.



Chassis is the same. Just struts/springs/sway bars and junk different.

And actually, an early SE is actually about as nimble as a SVT.

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98.5 SVT
91 Escort GT (almost sold)
96 ATX Zetec (i brake to watch you swerve)

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weargle
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Re: Thus ends the Contour's autocross career. new
#1287913 (Re: TRicker) 07/28/06 03:17 AM

Never look back. Now that you've driven a huge honking pig, a Miata will be a delight. I took the 3L SVT out a couple of months ago, and I think that I threw up in my mouth a little bit after the first run, wishing that my Miata was there in its stead. You have chosen wisely; my only suggestion is that you do a couple of events on street tires so that you can get the feel of the car under your belt without relying on the poor techniques that race tires can give you right out of the box. If you can stand it, do Azenis for a whole season. You'll learn a LOT about what the car can and can't do.

Expect to be slower, figure out the low torque, low weight, wheels driven in the *right* place and relearn what momentum maintenence is. I fell into the trap of letting torque make up for momentum slowing and it absolutely killed me when I got into my Miata. But now, I have a third place medal in CSP from the Virginia Commonwealth autocross championship sitting on my wall. Suck it up for a year, trust me, you'll appreciate it.

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Re: Thus ends the Contour's autocross career. new
#1288047 (Re: TRicker) 07/28/06 12:14 PM

Originally posted by TRicker:
i hear a 95 tour' is crap as far as chassis goes compared to a SVT.




You hear wrong. The chassis is identical! Actually, I think the extra weight of the SVT package makes the extra top-end a moot point. In STS the springs/swaybars mean jack because you're replacing them anyway. I'm convinced that the non-SVT is the way to go for (STS, at least) autocross - ever seen an SVT well under 3000lbs with driver and fuel?

Quote:

there's nothing on the street that'll try to stay with me on some corners,




Maybe because there's nothing on the street dumb enough to push it as hard as you? If you actually did some sort of driving off public roads you know that the driving a car at the limit is a very different thing than ANY sort of hard cornering on the street.


Finally, learn to spell. You've been cluttering up CEG with your lousy posts for a while, but I didn't say anything until you started spouting off stuff "you heard" without basis and talking about street racing. Read the rules, and consider yourself warned. CEG doesn't take kindly to people doing stupid things on the street in thier cars, and you sure as heck aren't going to talk about it in this forum.


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-Philip Maynard
'95 Contour [71 STS | Track Whore]
'97 Miata [71 ES | Boulevard Pimp]
2006 autocross results

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Re: Thus ends the Contour's autocross career. new
#1288144 (Re: Auto-X Fil) 07/28/06 02:06 PM

Phil, gotta question for ya-
After seeing what the Contour can do (and what it can't do) are you glad you chose this car? or looking back do you wish you chose a Miata or soemthing like that to start with?

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Re: Thus ends the Contour's autocross career. new
#1288213 (Re: TRicker) 07/28/06 03:05 PM

Originally posted by TRicker:
i hear a 95 tour' is crap as far as chassis goes compared to a SVT.




F'n A you're a retard. Ask any MI CEGer that autox's how my SE did against SVT's? Standard Duratec's are torquier down low and the SE suspension is stiffer.

Take a look at the results of this event. The guy that placed 1st have coilovers. I was still on stock SE suspension. Had intake and exhaust and that was it.

ttp://www.wmr-scca.org/1documents/2solodocs/2001solodocs/010903results.doc

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Re: Thus ends the Contour's autocross career. new
#1288251 (Re: Blue Goose) 07/28/06 03:38 PM

Originally posted by Teenage Contour:
Phil, gotta question for ya-
After seeing what the Contour can do (and what it can't do) are you glad you chose this car? or looking back do you wish you chose a Miata or soemthing like that to start with?




I didn't really choose the Contour, exactly. I got into autocross with a slightly modified Contour. I was modding the Contour at the same time as I was getting rolling in the sport, so I just worked with it. If I was picking a car just to autocross, I would not have chosen the Contour - it's not competitive. It was a lot of fun and I learned a lot, and autocrossing a Contour in general is a good time. It's not a way to win, though.

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-Philip Maynard
'95 Contour [71 STS | Track Whore]
'97 Miata [71 ES | Boulevard Pimp]
2006 autocross results

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White99SE
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Re: Thus ends the Contour's autocross career. new
#1288345 (Re: Auto-X Fil) 07/28/06 04:47 PM

Originally posted by Auto-X Fil:
If I was picking a car just to autocross, I would not have chosen the Contour - it's not competitive. It was a lot of fun and I learned a lot, and autocrossing a Contour in general is a good time. It's not a way to win, though.




Yeah, nobody "picks" a Contour to Autocross. It's simply what they had when they started out. It's a great car to learn with and can be a lot of fun, but anybody that wants to compete on a national level moves on to something more competitive.

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Roger - "Old Guy"

"Every car is a sports car sometime."

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plance1
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Re: Thus ends the Contour's autocross career. new
#1289262 (Re: White99SE) 07/30/06 01:02 AM

Went for a few rides in a miata about a month ago at my first autocross. I had some pretty respectable times, beat some higher power cars like mustangs but I must say, I enjoyed the miatas more than my own car!

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