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two_cool_tour
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secondary butterfly???
#1188741 - 03/10/06 05:04 PM

hey guys this is my first post i have a 98 contour SE with a svt in it and a weapon R cold air on it the other day i ziptyed the secondry butterfly open and i was wondering what i can do to stop the code from setting thank dan

(sorry about the spelling )

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PDXSVT
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Reged: 12/28/02
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Loc: Portland OR 'burbs
Re: secondary butterfly??? new
#1188748 (Re: two_cool_tour) 03/10/06 05:11 PM

Yeah. Untie it.

You are not doing yourself a favor by having the secondaries stuck open unless/until you have a bunch of modifications.

You are likely HURTING your engine's performance in the lower rpms.

Or is that what you were looking for?

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two_cool_tour
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Re: secondary butterfly??? new
#1188761 (Re: two_cool_tour) 03/10/06 05:27 PM

i thought that the faster you can get the air in to the engine the more hp you can make??

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Re: secondary butterfly??? new
#1188770 (Re: two_cool_tour) 03/10/06 05:46 PM

Yep. But the secondaries open on their own when needed. At low revs, using a narrower, longer intake will get the air in faster. That's what the secondaries do: change the intake geometry so that it's optimized for both low and high rpm. Do you think Ford would spend all that money on the secondary system if it hurt power? They are the only reason we have a 3000lb car that feels good in the low rev range with only a 2.5L engine.

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two_cool_tour
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Re: secondary butterfly??? new
#1188783 (Re: two_cool_tour) 03/10/06 06:23 PM

ok thank i just hooked them back up


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Y2KSVT
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Reged: 09/30/02
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Loc: Fort Wayne, IN
Re: secondary butterfly??? new
#1188907 (Re: two_cool_tour) 03/10/06 10:35 PM

Originally posted by two_cool_tour:
ok thank i just hooked them back up





I'd like to take a moment, and thank this newb. He was given straight forward advice, he took the advice and acted upon it, and now he is thanking the advisee. This day will go down as one of the greatest days in CEG history. Thank you two_cool_tour!

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m!key
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Re: secondary butterfly??? new
#1188908 (Re: Y2KSVT) 03/10/06 10:40 PM

yes thanks two cool. this is exactly how enthusiasts should act to one another. the newer member asks a question, he/she gets an answer, he/she thanks the other members for their help. it is just proper. we dont need every pimple faced 16 year old virgin momma boy high pitched voice having closet homo wacking it to brokeback mountain to get upset when they get an answer and then turn around and call the person that is helping them a name. i dont get that really.

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MapOfTaziFoSho
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Re: secondary butterfly??? new
#1188912 (Re: m!key) 03/10/06 10:45 PM

Originally posted by Mikey Boy:
yes thanks two cool. this is exactly how enthusiasts should act to one another. the newer member asks a question, he/she gets an answer, he/she thanks the other members for their help. it is just proper. we dont need every pimple faced 16 year old virgin momma boy high pitched voice having closet homo wacking it to brokeback mountain to get upset when they get an answer and then turn around and call the person that is helping them a name. i dont get that really.




Here is what Mikey is talking about...

Basically a perfect example of what NOT to do...

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Goonz SVT
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Re: secondary butterfly??? new
#1188930 (Re: MapOfTaziFoSho) 03/10/06 11:14 PM

dammn i just clicked those links.. we should have everyones age displayed if they are below 20 for special purposes

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Big Daddy Kane
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Reged: 07/22/03
Posts: 3816
Loc: Ramstein AB, Germany
Re: secondary butterfly??? new
#1189118 (Re: Goonz SVT) 03/11/06 12:36 PM

Originally posted by Goonz SVT:
dammn i just clicked those links.. we should have everyones age displayed if they are below 20 for special purposes




Would be nice to have everyone's age displayed... would make it easier to talk to. I.E. a young person, you know they haven't been around the block yet.

Oh, and you can call people old too!

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