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Todd@DiscountTire
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Get grounded! Custom engine earthing/grounding ki
#318935 - 06/16/03 05:05 PM

With the ever increasing reliance on complex vehicle ecu systems, and the massive amount of electrical power...oe grounding units aren't quite enough. At most OE supplies your car with 2-3 grounding points.

Lineage Motorsport optimizes the current flow of the 12v system. In your engine bay you have defeciencies in the electrical system, known as IR drop, throughtout the entire vehicle. Starting with the ECU you car experiences great demands of positive 12v surges on a constant basis, but the problem lies at the ground point of the vehicles electrical system. This is where the IR drop comes in to play. You have at best 2-3 grounding points sporadically placed in the engine bay. By using Lineage Motorsports energy ground transfer system you can reduce the IR drop in your vehicles electrical system as much as 75% by linking 5 points of modified ground together giving a tighter ground chain that can keep up with the positive surges which results in high performance results. Lineage only uses proprietory high grade extensive strand count OFC (oxygen free copper) cable. Dyno proven, the energy ground transfer system delivers improved performance in your vehicle.

Available in:
Black, blue, red, yellow & silver.




Below is a dyno graph from a modified civic. This is much more than a simple hp mod.




This mod has become very popular in the past 6 months. I recently found a 24 pg thread on a 350z site. Cleaner more efficient power, improved mpg, and the list goes on. Ive heard the example made....killer stereo system in your car, all top of the line, then you install some thin cheap speaker & power wire. Ya it works, but then you switch to monster cable and the clarity and power is a nite & day difference.

These kits have been averaging between $130-$210
If we can get 15 people together from this site I will extend to you the price of $90 shipped.

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Kremithefrog
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Loc: Albany, Georgia
Re: Get grounded! Custom engine earthing/grounding ki new
#318947 (Re: Todd@DiscountTire) 06/16/03 05:13 PM

should be in the GB section, but I don't think you'll find the interest on this site.

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98.5 SVT
91 Escort GT (almost sold)
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RoadRunner
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Re: Get grounded! Custom engine earthing/grounding ki new
#318969 (Re: Kremithefrog) 06/16/03 05:29 PM

Not unless he starts answeriung the threads Todd's already left !

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2004 Mercury Marauder 300A
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Bob Blaylock
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Reged: 04/24/01
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Re: Get grounded! Custom engine earthing/groundin new
#318983 (Re: Todd@DiscountTire) 06/16/03 05:42 PM



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1996 Mercury Mystique GS, Zetec, ATX
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RaraAdministrator
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Reged: 09/09/00
Posts: 3223
Loc: Westland, MI
Re: Get grounded! Custom engine earthing/groundin new
#319107 (Re: Bob Blaylock) 06/16/03 07:21 PM

1) A group buy thread belongs in the group buy forum. I'm moving this there.

2) Spamming isn't tolerated, and this is borderline IMHO. Be careful in the near future.

3) The power "increases" you show on the dyno sheet there are only 1.5%; this is WELL within the range for normal run to run variation on the dyno, not to mention the potential for weather differences or other environmental factors that can change power output.

Modern cars are very well grounded, and if yours is not, then you are likely to have other issues.
Aside from that, even if it worked as advertised (and it doesn't) I don't believe I would pay $100 for 3 horsepower, especially considering 3 hp isn't even physically noticable on anyhting larger than a go-cart.

More power to you and your company Todd if you want to make money, but, to paraphrase one of my heroes; "I pity da foo' that gives you money for this crap."

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2G Sport
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Reged: 12/24/00
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Loc: Columbus, Ohio
Re: Get grounded! Custom engine earthing/groundin new
#319132 (Re: Rara) 06/16/03 07:40 PM

From www.knukonceptz.com:

Kolossus Kable 4 Gauge Blue Power Wire
Description: Kolossus Kable 4 Gauge Blue Power Wire features 2058 Strands of Pure Oxygen Free Copper. Our Kables consist of the highest and finest strands of copper in the industry. Providing less resistence over the length of you installation, resulting in higher voltage (less voltage loss) and cooler components. Price is per one foot.
Price: $0.99

4 Gauge Set Screw Ring Terminal Pair
Description: These Nickel Silver Terminals accept 4 Gauge Power wire. The wire is secured by tightening the allen screw into the exposed wire. These are a must for the high powered systems and add class to any installation. Sold in Pairs Only
Price: $5.00

I could get 85 foot of this and screw type connectors for same price.




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'01 Escape XLT V6 on S100
CDT Audio/Ascendant Audio/Rockford/JBL/Knukonceptz setup
'00 SE Sport ATX

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ATL-SVT
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Reged: 09/04/02
Posts: 1191
Loc: Atlanta, GA
Re: Get grounded! Custom engine earthing/groundin new
#319138 (Re: Rara) 06/16/03 07:42 PM

OMG, I can't beleive people are still trying to pass this off as real??!! Why don't you buy the psuedo purge valve while your at it?? If you buy this you are an idiot, period.

Thats like saying "adding a larger cushion in your seat will give you 6-8 HP AT THE WHEELS!!!"

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KnuKonceptz
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Reged: 03/30/01
Posts: 1279
Loc: Cleveland,OH
Re: Get grounded! Custom engine earthing/groundin new
#319644 (Re: ATL-SVT) 06/17/03 03:36 AM

This has become a huge market recently. Will you see a gain? depends on the shade of green your ground is already. And yes, buying the parts from us ='s about $27.00 for the kit, add some solder and crimp tools and for $40 you can do it yourself.

On a side note, if you do have a larger then normal, SPL generating audio system and have never upgraded your grounds you should add atleast one. Running 4ga to your amp and just using the factory 8ga wire is like shooting yourself in the foot. Electricity starts at the ground. This can solve lights dimming, improve frequency response and allow your amps to run cooler.

As for adding HP, a 30 minute cool down on the dyno while installing the "Hyper" Ground Kit should add a few ponies by itself.......

Oh and BTW we have more colors and strands...naa naa na naaaa na

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Previous Owner of 00 SVT Contour #1077/2150
95 Contour SE '01 3L


Edited by KnuKonceptz (06/17/03 03:37 AM)

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ChattavegasSE
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Reged: 11/08/01
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Re: Get grounded! Custom engine earthing/groundin new
#320957 (Re: KnuKonceptz) 06/18/03 03:52 AM

Originally posted by KnuKonceptz:
Oh and BTW we have more colors and strands...naa naa na naaaa na



ROTFLMFAO!!!

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2001 VW Golf GLS 2.0L MTX - Tornado Red
Buy my possessed VCR!!

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