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cougarkid
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svt motor to basic 2.5l
#1180693 - 03/01/06 02:08 AM

I recently picked up a 1999 Contour SVT. 118,000 miles. The motor does not function. Is it possible to put in a basic 2.5L engine into a SVT. Do any modifications need to be done? What is involved? Any information would be helpful. Thank You!
-Mitch

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nofx198e5
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Re: svt motor to basic 2.5l new
#1180698 (Re: cougarkid) 03/01/06 02:13 AM

Why would you do that?!?! Put a 3-Liter in it!

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Tourgasm
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Re: svt motor to basic 2.5l new
#1180708 (Re: nofx198e5) 03/01/06 02:17 AM

Yeah dude, a 3.0 might even be cheaper.

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rkneeshaw
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Re: svt motor to basic 2.5l new
#1180710 (Re: nofx198e5) 03/01/06 02:20 AM

3L! dooooo eeeeet

And I agree, I think the 3L can be done cheaper than putting a 2.5L in it, even if its a non-SVT 2.5L, it will still cost more than a 3L

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Reebs
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Re: svt motor to basic 2.5l new
#1180864 (Re: cougarkid) 03/01/06 05:21 AM

Originally posted by cougarkid:
I recently picked up a 1999 Contour SVT. 118,000 miles. The motor does not function. Is it possible to put in a basic 2.5L engine into a SVT. Do any modifications need to be done? What is involved? Any information would be helpful. Thank You!
-Mitch




If I were you, I would pick up a non svt 2.5 L with low miles and put on as many of your svt engine parts as you can. Then add headers and nice exhuast. In my opinion, way less hassale and less $$$ to buy a non-svt 2.5L engine. I found one with 24,000 miles on it for $800. I bought an engine from the same place before. Great condition engines and properly stored... PM me for details. Place is in SE Michigan though.

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Ray
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Re: svt motor to basic 2.5l new
#1180888 (Re: Reebs) 03/01/06 05:58 AM

OR.. for the same $800 you could find a nice 01-o2 (or even 03??) 3L engine with 6.5-7K miles on it, with cash left over!!

more horsepower and MORE TORQUE, instead of LESS HP and TQ than the original SVT engine. why pay MORE for LESS than you started out with, when you can pay LESS for MORE?


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Auto-X Fil
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Re: svt motor to basic 2.5l new
#1180954 (Re: Ray) 03/01/06 12:32 PM

I put in two 2.5L engines (not at once ). I searched around and found a shop that would do a swap for $500, and I paid $400 for the first engine (bad idea!) and $900 for the second (with warranty, from a good yard that actually tests). I had trouble finding places that were willing to try and drop in a 3.0L, even though I told them it went right in.

Now that I've seen so many 3.0L, I wish I had one! Do a little reading in the 3.0L forum to see what needs to be done, and call shops with a list in hand. You should be able to find someplace that will do the swap for similar money. If you can do that, then go 3.0L all the way. The engine is almost certainly going to be cheaper, and you're talking about a very significant power bump for free! Even if it's just a DD right now, it's simple enough that it's worth it. It's not like dropping a 302 into a Miata or one of those crazy swaps: it's essentially the same casting!

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'95 Contour [71 STS | Track Whore]
'97 Miata [71 ES | Boulevard Pimp]
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MapOfTaziFoSho
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Re: svt motor to basic 2.5l new
#1181133 (Re: Reebs) 03/01/06 04:50 PM

Originally posted by JReebs96sport:
Originally posted by cougarkid:
I recently picked up a 1999 Contour SVT. 118,000 miles. The motor does not function. Is it possible to put in a basic 2.5L engine into a SVT. Do any modifications need to be done? What is involved? Any information would be helpful. Thank You!
-Mitch




If I were you, I would pick up a non svt 2.5 L with low miles and put on as many of your svt engine parts as you can. Then add headers and nice exhuast. In my opinion, way less hassale and less $$$ to buy a non-svt 2.5L engine. I found one with 24,000 miles on it for $800. I bought an engine from the same place before. Great condition engines and properly stored... PM me for details. Place is in SE Michigan though.





Worst noobie post evar! I know for a FACT it costs more to get a 2.5L motor. I got my 3L for 500$!

Reebs

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Auto-X Fil
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Re: svt motor to basic 2.5l new
#1181135 (Re: MapOfTaziFoSho) 03/01/06 04:52 PM

Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho™:

Worst noobie post evar! I know for a FACT it costs more to get a 2.5L motor. I got my 3L for 500$!

Reebs




Everywhere, all the time? Some places don't charge based on how rare parts are. Again, I only paid $400 for a 2.5L.

I do think the 3.0L is the way to go, but I don't believe it's always cheaper/easier. It may take more work and a little more money by the time you find a shop that will do it, and have them do the extra little things.

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-Philip Maynard
'95 Contour [71 STS | Track Whore]
'97 Miata [71 ES | Boulevard Pimp]
2006 autocross results

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MapOfTaziFoSho
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Re: svt motor to basic 2.5l new
#1181154 (Re: Auto-X Fil) 03/01/06 05:14 PM

Originally posted by Auto-X Fil:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho™:

Worst noobie post evar! I know for a FACT it costs more to get a 2.5L motor. I got my 3L for 500$!

Reebs




Everywhere, all the time? Some places don't charge based on how rare parts are. Again, I only paid $400 for a 2.5L.

I do think the 3.0L is the way to go, but I don't believe it's always cheaper/easier. It may take more work and a little more money by the time you find a shop that will do it, and have them do the extra little things.




I'd never pay a shop to do it...it'd never be done right. If you can't do DIY...then yeah skipm the 3.0L

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beyondloadedSE
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Re: svt motor to basic 2.5l new
#1181360 (Re: MapOfTaziFoSho) 03/01/06 08:25 PM

Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho™:


I'd never pay a shop to do it...it'd never be done right. If you can't do DIY...then yeah skipm the 3.0L




Both Y2KSVT and CLASSVT here from Fort Wayne each had their 3.0L's installed by someone. Mark had his done at a dealership and the Ryan had his done by a mechanic. Both are holding up well.

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MapOfTaziFoSho
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Re: svt motor to basic 2.5l new
#1181362 (Re: beyondloadedSE) 03/01/06 08:29 PM

Originally posted by beyondloadedSE:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho™:


I'd never pay a shop to do it...it'd never be done right. If you can't do DIY...then yeah skipm the 3.0L




Both Y2KSVT and CLASSVT here from Fort Wayne each had their 3.0L's installed by someone. Mark had his done at a dealership and the Ryan had his done by a mechanic. Both are holding up well.




Sorry I was projecting...

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RTStabler51
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Re: svt motor to basic 2.5l new
#1181371 (Re: beyondloadedSE) 03/01/06 08:37 PM

Originally posted by beyondloadedSE:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho™:


I'd never pay a shop to do it...it'd never be done right. If you can't do DIY...then yeah skipm the 3.0L




Both Y2KSVT and CLASSVT here from Fort Wayne each had their 3.0L's installed by someone. Mark had his done at a dealership and the Ryan had his done by a mechanic. Both are holding up well.


Yeah [censored] you too Jim :-P (Joking) I built my own engine but had it installed by a guy on the side at Dimension West for a few reasons 1) I had the money 2) I trusted him 3)I didn't have the set up to install it.

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todras
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Re: svt motor to basic 2.5l new
#1181390 (Re: RTStabler51) 03/01/06 08:51 PM

I put a 2.0 w/ ATX in mine. Much faster because the more open engine bay.

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Tourige
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Re: svt motor to basic 2.5l new
#1181394 (Re: Reebs) 03/01/06 08:54 PM

Originally posted by JReebs96sport:
Originally posted by cougarkid:
I recently picked up a 1999 Contour SVT. 118,000 miles. The motor does not function. Is it possible to put in a basic 2.5L engine into a SVT. Do any modifications need to be done? What is involved? Any information would be helpful. Thank You!
-Mitch




If I were you, I would pick up a non svt 2.5 L with low miles and put on as many of your svt engine parts as you can. Then add headers and nice exhuast. In my opinion, way less hassale and less $$$ to buy a non-svt 2.5L engine. I found one with 24,000 miles on it for $800. I bought an engine from the same place before. Great condition engines and properly stored... PM me for details. Place is in SE Michigan though.




the guy with 19 posts adds some stupid advice.

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much like your weiner.




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Big Daddy Kane
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Re: svt motor to basic 2.5l new
#1181423 (Re: todras) 03/01/06 09:44 PM

Originally posted by todras:
I put a 2.0 w/ ATX in mine. Much faster because the more open engine bay.




IMO, this is the way to go... you might be able to finally keep up with stock Civics!

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Tourige
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Re: svt motor to basic 2.5l new
#1181434 (Re: Big Daddy Kane) 03/01/06 09:55 PM

Originally posted by Big Daddy Kane:
Originally posted by todras:
I put a 2.0 w/ ATX in mine. Much faster because the more open engine bay.




IMO, this is the way to go... you might be able to finally keep up with stock Civics!




Pff, 1.2L VTAK POWAR!!!!!

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230.2 WHP @ 6500
237.0 WTR @ 2250

Originally posted by MxRacer:
Originally posted by RawBurt:
I'll be keeping it to myself, until the time comes. It'll be hard to find.




much like your weiner.




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cougarkid
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Re: svt motor to basic 2.5l new
#1182882 (Re: Tourige) 03/03/06 05:07 AM

If the swap to 3L Duratec is the best route, more for less, then that's what I'll do! What mods need to be done to put a 3L in then? Is it a direct fit? Is there a link to a page or site of directions? Anymore more help or suggestions would be appreciated!!

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Big Jim
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Re: svt motor to basic 2.5l new
#1182884 (Re: cougarkid) 03/03/06 05:10 AM

Start here:

http://www.contour.org/ubbthreads/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=3L

Read the pinned notes at the top first and then start digging into the forum itself.

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Reebs
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Re: svt motor to basic 2.5l new
#1183318 (Re: MapOfTaziFoSho) 03/03/06 07:03 PM

Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho™:



Worst noobie post evar! I know for a FACT it costs more to get a 2.5L motor.






Thanks for the compliment. You made it on the worst spelling posts evar... and noobie isn't spelled like boobie! My advice is to search around for prices and to not just go out and buy a 3L thinking that he's getting a great deal. If he runs across a cheaper 3L and can swap it himself, then good for him. Options, my friend, that it's all about.

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