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weargle
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Y/N: Is there a bottom end diff between SVT & SE?
#502884 - 01/15/04 11:39 AM

I've searched, but didn't find out if there is any difference between bottom end of the engine between the SVT and the non-SVT V6?



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Re: Y/N: Is there a bottom end diff between SVT & SE? new
#502919 (Re: weargle) 01/15/04 12:23 PM

Lots of. Look into the FAQ.

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Re: Y/N: Is there a bottom end diff between SVT & SE? new
#502956 (Re: pabloquintana) 01/15/04 01:00 PM

Actually, my search through the FAQ and past related discussions doesn't reveal any bottom end differences between SVT and SE.

Note that by "bottom end" I mean (most) everything below the head: crankshaft, bearings, connecting rods, etc. One notable item: The SVT flywheel is lighter, though I don't necessarily consider this "bottom end", since it can be replaced without opening the crankcase.

The compression ratio between SVT and SE is different, but I believe that's due to head differences, not piston differences. Can anyone confirm this?

Of course, the SVT engine has significant top end differences (heads, intake) and the model gets lots of other upgrades (exhaust, suspension, the list goes on).

Just my $0.02; my original interest in this topic was at one time to verify what was really different between the SVT and my lowly (but fun) GL V6. This is one of the better references on the topic: SVT vs. SE specs

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Re: Y/N: Is there a bottom end diff between SVT & SE? new
#502960 (Re: phil) 01/15/04 01:07 PM

Originally posted by phil:
This is one of the better references on the topic: SVT vs. SE specs




However, as stated before, there are some errors with this webpage.

Click Here

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phil
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Re: Y/N: Is there a bottom end diff between SVT & SE? new
#502971 (Re: zgendron) 01/15/04 01:16 PM

Zack -

Thanks for the extra info. Though I didn't notice any bottom end differences in the corrections. Hmmm - now I'm curious - are there really any bottom end differences?

Phil


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Re: Y/N: Is there a bottom end diff between SVT & SE? new
#503011 (Re: phil) 01/15/04 01:56 PM

As far as I know there are no bottom end differences. Crank/block and rods are the same IIRC. I think the pistons are different but i could be wrong. Most of the differences are in the to pof the motor.

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Re: Y/N: Is there a bottom end diff between SVT & SE? new
#503023 (Re: TGO) 01/15/04 02:03 PM

The SVT cranks are hand selected from regular production runs - ie they are the same but will have less tolerance variation than the general population .

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Re: Y/N: Is there a bottom end diff between SVT & SE? new
#503133 (Re: weargle) 01/15/04 03:49 PM

The only difference I know of are the pistons. The SVT's have domed pistons while the SE's have "flat top" pistons (not totally flat, though; they are just less domed).

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Re: Y/N: Is there a bottom end diff between SVT & SE? new
#503208 (Re: Bronco_WRX) 01/15/04 04:53 PM

Originally posted by Bronco_II:
The only difference I know of are the pistons. The SVT's have domed pistons while the SE's have "flat top" pistons (not totally flat, though; they are just less domed).



Same company made the pistons though.

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Re: Y/N: Is there a bottom end diff between SVT & SE? new
#503792 (Re: phil) 01/16/04 09:13 AM

Phil - good stuff you posted. Tnx! I am really impressed by 0-60:

SVT:
7.9 sec. (officially)7.1 sec. (un-officially)

V6
8.1 sec. (officially)
7.7 sec. (un-officially)

...that's thwe whole difference? Hmm....

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weargle
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Thanks for the information! new
#503834 (Re: R_G) 01/16/04 10:05 AM

Except for the Search Nazi (who, like most of the rest, is wrong) I appreciate the assistance!

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#504115 (Re: weargle) 01/16/04 03:19 PM

The pistons are the only thing "truly" different inside the short block. (10:1 - 98, 98.5, 99 & 10.25:1 - 00)

The crank is hand selected (I.E. means the best few spec'd ones out of the batch)

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