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MattB
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Contours pretty small
#1304314 - 08/22/06 01:26 AM

Well with the addition of a second child in 4 days, we test fitted the infant car seat in the contour. I have to tell you i knew the contour was tiny before with just one car seat but with the new car seat, my tour is a 3 passenger car. The passenger seat is at the closet point to the dash as it can go. My wife cant sit in the passenger seat now. Wifes car is a Volvo 240 and it fits 2 car seats fine, with both front seats as far back. I guesse my contour is second to volvo in terms of family car. We normally took the contour for vacations and getaways because its a lot newer and quicker then the volvo. So its a sad day that the contour will no longer be the family geta way car. I have thougth about selling the car but resale values are horrible about $1000 (maybe) for the 1997 contour and $1700 for a 1990 volvo , almost 7 years older but better resale. Well we are going to hold on to the contour till it dies i guesse....

Anyone else with family space issues?

Matt

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IRingTwyce
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Re: Contours pretty small new
#1304340 (Re: MattB) 08/22/06 01:54 AM

Originally posted by MattB:
Well with the addition of a second child in 4 days,



Wow! You had 2 kids in 4 days? Man, what kind of fertility drugs did you have her on?



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Re: Contours pretty small new
#1304368 (Re: IRingTwyce) 08/22/06 02:30 AM

i know how you feel about the room issues. i have to ut my daughters car seat in the middle in the back seat so both front passengers are comfortable. I can only imagine with two

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Tony2005
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Re: Contours pretty small new
#1304475 (Re: MattB) 08/22/06 04:47 AM

It helps if you get the "Infant Only" rear-facing car seat (up to 20 lbs or one year) as opposed to the Convertible car seats where it goes from 5 to 20lbs rear-facing/21 to 40 lbs forward-facing. The Convertible ones are much longer and higher.

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MattB
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Re: Contours pretty small new
#1304487 (Re: Tony2005) 08/22/06 05:43 AM

We looked at the just infant only. But we already have car seat/holder bucket, works for 2 cars. Im 6'1" and with the seat back all the way is ok but its a few clicks forward, so my knees are getting close to the wheel, oh well. I will take it over another car payment anyday though. Both cars have been paid off for years, so not having car payments is really nice. Going to wait a few years and get up graded cars, when we have money .....

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Y2KSVT
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Re: Contours pretty small new
#1304516 (Re: MattB) 08/22/06 12:32 PM

Originally posted by MattB:
Im 6'1" and with the seat back all the way is ok but its a few clicks forward, so my knees are getting close to the wheel, oh well.




You must be a different 6'-1" than me, because I don't keep my seat anywhere near the furthest back position, and I have pleanty of leg room. I keep my seat up far enough, to where my knees are just a little under the dash, and where I have full control of the wheel and shifter. I have 6'-0" tall friends sit in the back without much complaining.

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frenchblueC2
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Re: Contours pretty small new
#1304517 (Re: Y2KSVT) 08/22/06 12:34 PM

You have a long body, Mark. That could be the difference.



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Y2KSVT
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Re: Contours pretty small new
#1304519 (Re: frenchblueC2) 08/22/06 12:38 PM

Originally posted by frenchblueC2:
You have a long body, Mark. That could be the difference.






Haha, so wouldn't you think I'd need MORE leg room? I guess I don't go for the gangsta lean.

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Tony2005
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Re: Contours pretty small new
#1304520 (Re: MattB) 08/22/06 12:38 PM

Originally posted by MattB:
...holder bucket, works for 2 cars....



Try without the holder bucket for the Contour. It is a pain to have to buckle up the car seat everytime, but the extra three inches could make the difference.

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frenchblueC2
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Re: Contours pretty small new
#1304523 (Re: Y2KSVT) 08/22/06 12:46 PM

Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by frenchblueC2:
You have a long body, Mark. That could be the difference.





Haha, so wouldn't you think I'd need MORE leg room? I guess I don't go for the gangsta lean.




No, I'm saying if your torso is long, then your legs are a little shorter than a guy with a short body and long legs who is the same height.


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Jeb Hoge
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Re: Contours pretty small new
#1304529 (Re: frenchblueC2) 08/22/06 12:59 PM

I think you might be better off with the rear-facing seat in a center position (I think you can do that). But I was definitely happier when my boy got big enough to face forward, and I think he was too. He likes to ride.

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Re: Contours pretty small new
#1304555 (Re: frenchblueC2) 08/22/06 02:05 PM

Originally posted by frenchblueC2:
You have a long body, Mark. That could be the difference.






I have a long leg. That doesn't keep me from moving the seat farther forward though.

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Re: Contours pretty small new
#1304561 (Re: Hightower GT) 08/22/06 02:23 PM

I agree. I'm 6'3" and don't have the seat all the way back. Try adjusting the tilt of the seat backwards. I find it more comfortable anyway. Mind you I do have the seat back reclined a bit too.

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Jeb Hoge
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Re: Contours pretty small new
#1304590 (Re: SVTC1136) 08/22/06 03:37 PM

I have always felt like I had more legroom in a Contour than in a Taurus. My seat isn't all the way back, although I keep it reclined to the point that my shoulder bumps the B-pillar just so my arms are comfortably extended (not reaching, but not wrapped over the steering wheel). I'm over 6'4".

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Tisby
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Re: Contours pretty small new
#1304592 (Re: SVTC1136) 08/22/06 03:39 PM

Back to the original subject... When I found out we were having a second one, I test-fitted the car seats. I can get both car seats in there without a problem. The seats are a rear-facing infant and forward facing convertable type...

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phil
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Re: Contours pretty small new
#1304770 (Re: Tisby) 08/22/06 09:06 PM

We had twins, and had two rear-facing car seats in the Contour. It was a tight fit, but worked well.

Then we had another 18 months later, which pushed us into a minivan as a primary kid hauler, though the Contour still sees occasional 1-or-2-kid booster seat time.

My '95 Contour doesn't have a center shoulder belt, so the middle position isn't an option for us, even with just one kid.

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TJSwoboda
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Re: Contours pretty small new
#1304888 (Re: phil) 08/23/06 12:43 AM

That's the problem with the Contour and a lot of other midsize cars like the Grand Am, Stratus, Jetta, etc.: They take up the space on the road like a midsize, while having less interior space than many compacts. The Focus has more interior space than the Contour, and my old roommate had a late 80s/early 90s Civic that was absolutely cavernous inside. I suppose maybe engineers just aren't under the gun to utilize space efficiently when they've got more space to work with...

That said, I really don't get it when people run out in a blind panic to buy a minivan as soon as their first baby is born. When I was 11 1/2, my brother 9 and my sister not quite 7 my dad got a new '86 BMW 325e 5spd coupe and all three of us fit fine in the back. I can't vouch for putting a car seat back there, of course...

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Jeb Hoge
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Re: Contours pretty small new
#1304908 (Re: TJSwoboda) 08/23/06 01:09 AM

I think we'll be pressed into a Mazda 5 if/when we have another baby come along. The big question (read: FIGHT) will be over whether we trade in our Mazda 6 on it, or if my Contour goes. I like my wife's car, but only because it's hers. If it were mine exclusively, I would not be nearly so fond of it (ATX/4-cyl, kind of a snoozer).

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Re: Contours pretty small new
#1305096 (Re: TJSwoboda) 08/23/06 01:37 PM

Quote:

That's the problem with the Contour and a lot of other midsize cars like the Grand Am, Stratus, Jetta, etc.: They take up the space on the road like a midsize, while having less interior space than many compacts. The Focus has more interior space than the Contour, and my old roommate had a late 80s/early 90s Civic that was absolutely cavernous inside. I suppose maybe engineers just aren't under the gun to utilize space efficiently when they've got more space to work with...




I'm not sure about the current Jetta platform but old Jetta's and Contours are technically compacts. I'm almost certain that early 90's civics have less space than a Contour.

The difference between a small midsize and a large compact isn't total size, but the dimensions. Modern compacts have a lot of space because they are taller and shorter with tall seats that position your legs more vertically. They tend to be 2-3" higher with a wheelbase that is generally 3-5" shorter and width that's about 2" narrower than a Contour. Interior space ends up about the same with leg comfort going to the modern compact, depending on whether you enjoy being seated more upright.

For me, the dimensions of modern compacts ruin the driving experience. A lot of the Contour's good driving dynamics come from its dimensions, in my opinion.

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RogerB
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Re: Contours pretty small new
#1305204 (Re: Desiato) 08/23/06 04:44 PM

Originally posted by Desiato:
Quote:

That's the problem with the Contour and a lot of other midsize cars like the Grand Am, Stratus, Jetta, etc.: They take up the space on the road like a midsize, while having less interior space than many compacts. The Focus has more interior space than the Contour, and my old roommate had a late 80s/early 90s Civic that was absolutely cavernous inside. I suppose maybe engineers just aren't under the gun to utilize space efficiently when they've got more space to work with...




I'm not sure about the current Jetta platform but old Jetta's and Contours are technically compacts. I'm almost certain that early 90's civics have less space than a Contour.

The difference between a small midsize and a large compact isn't total size, but the dimensions. Modern compacts have a lot of space because they are taller and shorter with tall seats that position your legs more vertically. They tend to be 2-3" higher with a wheelbase that is generally 3-5" shorter and width that's about 2" narrower than a Contour. Interior space ends up about the same with leg comfort going to the modern compact, depending on whether you enjoy being seated more upright.

For me, the dimensions of modern compacts ruin the driving experience. A lot of the Contour's good driving dynamics come from its dimensions, in my opinion.




Yes, the Contour is a compact, while the Cirrus/Stratus, although about the same size on the outside, were midsized cars.

I remember at least one road trip from KS to IL with two kids in carseats, a 45 lb dog, a week's worth of luggage and baby gear for the 5 of us, and a few Christmas presents, to boot. That was back when the Contour was our "large" car (next to our 91 Civic sedan.) Previous to that, when the Civic was the large car (next to our CRX), we made regular trips home (pre-kids) with a big plastic box on the roof.

Didn't really consider a minivan until we started working on kid #3, and even then we knew we were looking at the space as a luxury, rather than a necessity.


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