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Tourige
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Re: Octane in a CSVT new
#1292638 (Re: Y2KSVT) 08/03/06 05:14 AM

Originally posted by Y2KSVT:

Canadianballer - If you're such a baller, put the right friggin' gas in your car. I know you "gotz da hoez to take out in dat pimp ride of yo's," but wow.

Mark




BAHAHAHAHAHA

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99 TRed Contour SVT # 1853 out of 2760
230.2 WHP @ 6500
237.0 WTR @ 2250

Originally posted by MxRacer:
Originally posted by RawBurt:
I'll be keeping it to myself, until the time comes. It'll be hard to find.




much like your weiner.




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Big Jim
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Re: Octane in a CSVT new
#1292656 (Re: Y2KSVT) 08/03/06 06:58 AM

Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
If anybody wants me dead, please start a new thread with this exact same question. Because the next time I see it asked, I'm putting 87 octane gas in my car, and driving into oncoming traffic!

Canadianballer - If you're such a baller, put the right friggin' gas in your car. I know you "gotz da hoez to take out in dat pimp ride of yo's," but wow.

Mark




Take a deep breath, and if you're driving, pull over.

I use 87 octane in my 98 SVT E0 and it runs great. I have had maybe 20 tanks of premium in it since it was new.

Before you puke all over yourself, I should further explain a few things. I believe in agressive maintenance, including the combustion chambers and injectors. In other words, there is no carbon build-up that might agrivate pinging.

Also, I have more experience than I care to remember as tune-up specialist and hot rodder. I very well understand what octane is and how important it is. Even as an agressive driver, my car just doesn't need 91 octane fuel. It does NOT run any better with premium fuel, nor does it get any better mileage with premium fuel. I would not dream of taking a risk with lower octane fuel if it didn't work. In all of it's life, I have heard light trace pinging only two times, and both of those were on hot winter days (we have a few of those in southern California) with winter blend gas at part throttle that went away with only slight throttle increase.

That said, I don't recommend this for all SVTs. My car seems to have a less than stellar factory tune that doesn't optimize performance for premium fuel. Frankly, I'm disappointed. I would gladly trade even better performance for using higher octane fuel. So if the factory tune for other SVTs is more agressive they would be more prone to problems. Also, the 2000 has higher compression and may be less able to use lower octane fuel. Someone that isn't as up on maintenance may have a problem. Someone that can't recognize it when they do have a problem should not try it.

I have driven the car with the Ford scanner on it, monitoring timing, with both 87 octane and 91 octane and cannot see any difference. There is no evidence of the knock sensor pulling timing.

Others may not have the same result.

Please stay away from your car until you can gain control of yourself again. (Don't be a Mel Gibson).

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Jim Johnson
98 SVT
03 Escape Limited

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CSVT1214
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Reged: 11/02/03
Posts: 4051
Loc: Plainville, CT
Re: Octane in a CSVT new
#1292704 (Re: Tony2005) 08/03/06 12:29 PM

Originally posted by Tony2005:
ROTFL at all the misunderstanding and misinterpretation of posts and replies. Kremit, Tony (CSVT1214) wasn't referring to you. He was just making a general statement and being nice to a newbie.


and then Tony2005 runs away and hides from this thread.




Exactly. I was not referring directly to Kremit, but the replies in this thread overall.

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Tony

1998 SVT Contour (B/MB) #542 3L
1998 SVT Contour (SF/MB) #1266 parts car
2000 SVT Contour (SF/MB) #1533 3L swap to begin!

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Y2KSVT
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Reged: 09/30/02
Posts: 6106
Loc: Fort Wayne, IN
Re: Octane in a CSVT new
#1292705 (Re: Big Jim) 08/03/06 12:29 PM

Haha, I knew Big Jim would post here! He's the living proof that 87 octane can be put into these cars, as he's got I believe, well over 200k miles on his SVT, using almost all 87 octane. But Big Jim, are you doing much performance driving? Aren't you still on the stock clutch? I suppose if you drive under 3k rpm's, you could get away with it, but I don't like being BELOW 3K rpm's.

My post was a little over the top, but I like to be a little different in how I tell people to SEARCH! And yeah, a sense of humor couldn't hurt some of you.

Mark

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2000 Black CSVT
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Pimpalicious316
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Re: Octane in a CSVT new
#1292717 (Re: Y2KSVT) 08/03/06 12:45 PM

Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Haha, I knew Big Jim would post here! He's the living proof that 87 octane can be put into these cars, as he's got I believe, well over 200k miles on his SVT, using almost all 87 octane. But Big Jim, are you doing much performance driving? Aren't you still on the stock clutch? I suppose if you drive under 3k rpm's, you could get away with it, but I don't like being BELOW 3K rpm's.

My post was a little over the top, but I like to be a little different in how I tell people to SEARCH! And yeah, a sense of humor couldn't hurt some of you.

Mark




meanie head

~Andrew

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2001 VW Jetta Wolfsburg Edition
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RawBurt
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Re: Octane in a CSVT new
#1292886 (Re: Pimpalicious316) 08/03/06 03:26 PM

I just found out that you can run biodiesel in CSVT's... I've been making my own and running it for about a week now.

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Loco4G63
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Reged: 08/01/01
Posts: 17248
Loc: IL
Re: Octane in a CSVT new
#1292894 (Re: CSVT1214) 08/03/06 03:31 PM

It says premium fuel only on the gauge cluster.

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Hector

2003 Rally Red Mitsubishi Evolution VIII
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2005 Lapis Blue Mazda 6s

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IRingTwyce
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Reged: 07/01/03
Posts: 1882
Loc: Graham, TX
Re: Octane in a CSVT new
#1292900 (Re: RawBurt) 08/03/06 03:35 PM

Originally posted by BatteryLight:
I just found out that you can run biodiesel in CSVT's... I've been making my own and running it for about a week now.







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BrApple-its all in the way it is presented...but everythign on my resume is all me
TexasRealtor-I hope you spelling improves on your resume.
MxRacer-ladies and gentlemen, welcome to ironyville. population, texasrelator.

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BigBEN
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Reged: 07/20/06
Posts: 259
Loc: Wixom, MI
Re: Octane in a CSVT new
#1292948 (Re: Y2KSVT) 08/03/06 04:18 PM

Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
If anybody wants me dead, please start a new thread with this exact same question. Because the next time I see it asked, I'm putting 87 octane gas in my car, and driving into oncoming traffic!

Canadianballer - If you're such a baller, put the right friggin' gas in your car. I know you "gotz da hoez to take out in dat pimp ride of yo's," but wow.

Mark




OK LISTEN! im 16...looking to buy a CSVT! I have been on this forum for only 2 weeks...UNLIKE YOU! i havent posted 6000 times...SO...thanks for those who answered nicely. and to U Mark...F*CK OFF and dont post if u have an issue with a noob like myself...

MARK...im sorry im not a "contour god" as u r...and im sorry i dont kno everything! also...im white...i live in a hick town in michigan...im canadian...and u used to play basketball hense "baller" i DONT Think im black not do i talk gangster...i wear tight polo shirts and dont sag my pants.

THEREfore im a white prep who lives in a hick town and hates white people who think they are black

CLOSE THIS THREAD!

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98.5 Black Contour SVT #5959

Edited by canadianballer (08/03/06 04:22 PM)

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Kremithefrog
I have no life

Reged: 05/14/02
Posts: 21653
Loc: Albany, Georgia
Re: Octane in a CSVT new
#1292956 (Re: Y2KSVT) 08/03/06 04:27 PM

Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
but I don't like being BELOW 3K rpm's.



Same here, but dang v6 drinking all my gas.

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98.5 SVT
91 Escort GT (almost sold)
96 ATX Zetec (i brake to watch you swerve)

FS: SVT rear sway bar
WTB: Very cheap beater

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