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Random Rhythm
New CEG'er

Reged: 04/14/04
Posts: 11
Loc: Denver, Colorado
bad deal at the dealership
#1274769 - 07/09/06 04:30 PM

Yesterday (Saturday) I purchased a second car for the wife from a large dealership in Denver and I am dissatisfied with my purchase. I bought a 03 Nissan Altima with 60,000 miles on it. The car runs great but ther are some parts broken that do not seem to be normal wear and tear to me. I am taking Monday off of work to go down there and would like to return it or exchange but am not sure if I will run into a snag and get stuck with the car. I have run into problems before trying to purchase a car from a different dealership and don’t know an excessive amount about how dealerships are supposed to operate. Can someone tell me if the dealership should take the car back no questions asked or will I have to debate and argue with a rep at the dealership? Bellow is my list of concerns(noncosmetic) that I have noticed so far. They may just be little things but for an 03 this seems like a lot wrong with the car. I bought my 95 tour that came fully loaded paid $2,500 in 04 and the 9 year old car had less wrong with it. Thanks in advance for any advice or info that can be given.


Driver side door alignment seems off. When I pull the handle to open the door from the inside the door does not open. I have to push out on the door while pulling the handle to open it. Also when the door gets closed with the window rolled down it makes a horrible rattling noise.

Controls on steering wheel do not function with exception of the cruse control. (Controls for stereo, volume, trip, etc.)

Compartment in between front seats is broken. (Compartment has one compartment on top of the other and the do not latch to each other also seems like it is missing another part that slides out.)

Compartment in dash doesn’t stay closed. (Little stash compartment that has a door on it that is open all the time and can not be closed.)

Driver side headlamp isn’t aligned properly. (Pointing at an angle instead of straight.)

Vibrating sound comes from the back of the car while running.

When my father was driving it while following me at night the driver side headlamp was blinding me the whole time. Seems to me that if both the lights where straight they would either both be angled at my rearview or not. So I’m also wondering if the car maybe has been in an accident causing damage to the driver side that was not fixed right. Regardless this car doesn’t seem worth paying above blue book for and if it has been in an accident might be harder to get rid of later.


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95 Ford Contour 2.5L V6, 24V, ABS & TRACTION CONTROL, Sun Roof.
Mods - accel 8mm wires, centerforce dual friction clutch, fidanza flywheel.

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RialKnight
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Reged: 02/05/06
Posts: 96
Loc: Racine, WI
Re: bad deal at the dealership new
#1274771 (Re: Random Rhythm) 07/09/06 04:40 PM

Better see what your states lemon laws are....this happened to me when I got my contour.....luckly for me...I was able to get a replacement contour that's in far much better shape than the car I paided $3,700 for.

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1997 Ford Contour SE
Car's D.O.B. 2-15-1997 from Ford-KC Plant
Black Lighting
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2389976

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IRingTwyce
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Reged: 07/01/03
Posts: 1882
Loc: Graham, TX
Re: bad deal at the dealership new
#1274777 (Re: Random Rhythm) 07/09/06 05:01 PM

At the risk of sounding like a jerk, didn't you test-drive this thing at all before you bought it? Seems to me that ten minutes spent messing with the car would have shown you most of these problems.

Since it is a used car w/ 60k on the clock, I'm betting you bought it as-is, no warranty. Which means that unless the dealer is feeling charitable, you'll probably be stuck with your purchase.

You'll probably be forced to sell it yourself or fix what you don't like. Again, at the risk of sounding like a jerk...let this be a little life lesson. Test-drive, and fiddle with EVERYTHING that can be opened/shut/moved/turned on/turned off in a car before you buy it. The time to force a dealer to fix these things is BEFORE you sign on the dotted line.

Good luck with it!

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BrApple-its all in the way it is presented...but everythign on my resume is all me
TexasRealtor-I hope you spelling improves on your resume.
MxRacer-ladies and gentlemen, welcome to ironyville. population, texasrelator.

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elraido
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Reged: 10/28/04
Posts: 2116
Loc: MN
Re: bad deal at the dealership new
#1274780 (Re: IRingTwyce) 07/09/06 05:12 PM

Originally posted by IRingTwyce:
At the risk of sounding like a jerk, didn't you test-drive this thing at all before you bought it? Seems to me that ten minutes spent messing with the car would have shown you most of these problems.

Since it is a used car w/ 60k on the clock, I'm betting you bought it as-is, no warranty. Which means that unless the dealer is feeling charitable, you'll probably be stuck with your purchase.

You'll probably be forced to sell it yourself or fix what you don't like. Again, at the risk of sounding like a jerk...let this be a little life lesson. Test-drive, and fiddle with EVERYTHING that can be opened/shut/moved/turned on/turned off in a car before you buy it. The time to force a dealer to fix these things is BEFORE you sign on the dotted line.

Good luck with it!




ditto

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95 SE MTX
svt exhaust
intake
deer killer

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iso50
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Reged: 05/21/06
Posts: 23
Re: bad deal at the dealership new
#1274781 (Re: IRingTwyce) 07/09/06 05:12 PM

Well unless you go back, you'll never know. What they should do and what they do are very different. If things don't seem to be going well, ask to see the general manager. You might also file a complaint with your consumer protection department.

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Apu Nahasapeemapetil
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Reged: 09/10/03
Posts: 1246
Loc: Kwik-E-Mart
Re: bad deal at the dealership new
#1274788 (Re: Random Rhythm) 07/09/06 05:28 PM

Document every issue with the car. Pictures, videos, etc. If you have a problem after that, at least you have evidence to take them to court.

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Bridge
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Reged: 03/30/02
Posts: 837
Loc: NL, Canada
Re: bad deal at the dealership new
#1274805 (Re: Apu Nahasapeemapetil) 07/09/06 06:17 PM

Originally posted by Apu Nahasapeemapetil:
Document every issue with the car. Pictures, videos, etc. If you have a problem after that, at least you have evidence to take them to court.




Court really isn't an option.... The courts don't care if you made a good deal or not, just as long as there is consideration, then there is a deal. You gave up money, the dealership gave up a car.... Consideration

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CSVT
Feels Like Heaven
Goes Like Hell
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Y2KGreenSE
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Reged: 06/06/00
Posts: 2580
Loc: DuPage Co. IL
Re: bad deal at the dealership new
#1274828 (Re: Bridge) 07/09/06 07:07 PM

Lemon laws apply to repairs that cannot fix something after 3 tries.

Used cars should have a sticker that eitehr says "as-is" or some kind of warranty, like 30 days, on it.

Used car purchases require due dillegence in inspecting the vehicle, and the old saying 'buyer beware' applies.

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2005 Nissan Sentra 1.8 SE, Code Red. '00 Tropic Green Ford Escort SE [Contour's little cousin]

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snakous
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Reged: 06/05/03
Posts: 1241
Loc: Grand Rapids, MI
Re: bad deal at the dealership new
#1274838 (Re: Y2KGreenSE) 07/09/06 07:25 PM

I would think if it was a large dealership as mentioned they would at least offer a 30 day warranty/grace period in case something like this happens.

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Jake
96 T-Red SE V6


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Tony2005
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Reged: 06/19/05
Posts: 5345
Loc: Virginia, USA
Re: bad deal at the dealership new
#1274997 (Re: Random Rhythm) 07/10/06 01:21 AM

Not sure about CO but VA has a 3-day contract cancellation clause. Check if CO has it.

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"Always do the cheap and easy ones first."

1996 V6 ATX 96K miles


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Ray
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Reged: 07/10/01
Posts: 7100
Loc: San Antonio/Austin, TX
Re: bad deal at the dealership new
#1275006 (Re: Tony2005) 07/10/06 01:32 AM

YES.. check state laws. Texas has a "buyer's remorse" clause on any signed contract, with a corporation, or incorporated business. Private sales must be taken through civil court if there is to be anything changed, but the buyer's remorse clause can be enforced with dealerships.

you MAY be liable for milage penalties, or restocking fees, but you can get out of the car, if your state laws allow, as ours do.

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'99 CSVT - Silver #222/276
In a constant state of blow-off euphoria.
Originally posted by Kremitthefrog:
I like to wear dresses and use binoculars to watch grandmas across the street.




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Tourige
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Reged: 05/25/04
Posts: 3637
Loc: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Re: bad deal at the dealership new
#1275012 (Re: IRingTwyce) 07/10/06 01:43 AM

Originally posted by IRingTwyce:
At the risk of sounding like a jerk, didn't you test-drive this thing at all before you bought it? Seems to me that ten minutes spent messing with the car would have shown you most of these problems.




+100

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99 TRed Contour SVT # 1853 out of 2760
230.2 WHP @ 6500
237.0 WTR @ 2250

Originally posted by MxRacer:
Originally posted by RawBurt:
I'll be keeping it to myself, until the time comes. It'll be hard to find.




much like your weiner.




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wa2tuff
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Reged: 09/13/03
Posts: 2426
Loc: Under my car
Re: bad deal at the dealership new
#1275370 (Re: Y2KGreenSE) 07/10/06 04:03 PM

Originally posted by Y2KGreenSE:
Lemon laws apply to repairs that cannot fix something after 3 tries.

Used cars should have a sticker that either says " AS-IS " or some kind of warranty, like 30 days, on it.

Used car purchases require due dillegence in inspecting the vehicle, and the old saying 'buyer beware' applies.




And for what's already been said, didn't you test drive it? Sounds to me like you just learned a costly lesson unless the dealer really wants to bend over backward for you. Course if they're willing to do that, the little things would probably have been already fixed for you or anyone who else bought the car.

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WA 2 TUFF SVT
2000 Tropic Green SVT Born 1/28/2000-1975 out of 2150-only 207 made. Some new pics



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RTStabler51
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Posts: 6760
Loc: On the short bus
Re: bad deal at the dealership new
#1275377 (Re: Random Rhythm) 07/10/06 04:19 PM

There's only one person to blame for your 'bad deal at the dealership....'

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Ryan
Trollin!


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BiggityBon
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Reged: 01/28/02
Posts: 269
Loc: Toledo, OH
Re: bad deal at the dealership new
#1275429 (Re: RTStabler51) 07/10/06 05:05 PM

Originally posted by RTStabler51:
There's only one person to blame for your 'bad deal at the dealership....'




I second that...as I have fallen victim to this. But i still bought the car even after the fuel pump went out on my test drive...oh well.....you can't blame anybody but yourself. but good luck in whatever you choose to do!!!

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*~Bonnie~*
2000 CSVT, Amazon Green, built 2/?/00
135K and counting!!!!
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
CSVT, because like an orphan, someone has to take care of them.




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pokat302
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Reged: 05/31/02
Posts: 142
Loc: Knoxville/Powell, TN
Re: bad deal at the dealership new
#1275539 (Re: Random Rhythm) 07/10/06 06:48 PM

when my husband and I bought our SVT last April, exactly a week later we have major problems with the clutch. We took it back to the dealer (a large, promiment chevy dealer) and they agreed to pay for the repairs (a new clutch/transmission fluid etc). It was (obviously) a used car, and no warranty, but the dealer paid anyway. It doesn't hurt to at least go back and ask.

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Southeast CEG Fall Dragon Run ~October 13, 14 & 15~

2003 Ford Focus LX
2000 Ford Contour SVT #1049 of 2150
1999 Ford Contour SE Sport ~*RIP 7-19-2004*~
1990 Ford Tempo All Wheel Drive


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