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Kremithefrog
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Re: Clash of the titans.....???!!! new
#1310404 (Re: Klasse Act) 08/31/06 11:47 PM

I don't think they're doing it for the bragging rights. I think they're doing it because they enjoy it. Sorta like you enjoy having a shiny car.

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Barge
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Re: Clash of the titans.....???!!! new
#1310406 (Re: Klasse Act) 08/31/06 11:48 PM

Originally posted by Klasse Act:
Forgive me for this, but WHATS THE POINT IMO this is a very expensive braggin' right title, but if thats your thing, more power to you and good luck I've driven JD's Dad's ride and it pulled 401 hp w/ 17 psi and its now turned down to about 12.5lbs (about 350 hp to the wheels) and its basically undriveable in 1st and most of 2nd gear. Don't get me wrong, its great what some of you guys have been able to do in the past 3 years, but theres just NO way to harness all that power unless your in 3rd gear and your rollin' along




What's the point of a street car with 1000hp? any kind of car at all? what's the point of a Ferrari? what's the point of a sports car? I mean cars are just meant to get you from one point to the other.

This has got to be one of the silliest things ever posted on a car enthusiast message board.

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Re: Clash of the titans.....???!!! new
#1310441 (Re: Barge) 09/01/06 12:41 AM

You'll notice this is the first anyone has even heard of me doing anything...

I just like it.

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Re: Clash of the titans.....???!!! new
#1310482 (Re: Barge) 09/01/06 01:26 AM

Power is nothing if it can't be transferred to the ground.

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Klasse Act
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Re: Clash of the titans.....???!!! new
#1310494 (Re: Barge) 09/01/06 01:34 AM

Originally posted by Barge:
Originally posted by Klasse Act:
Forgive me for this, but WHATS THE POINT IMO this is a very expensive braggin' right title, but if thats your thing, more power to you and good luck I've driven JD's Dad's ride and it pulled 401 hp w/ 17 psi and its now turned down to about 12.5lbs (about 350 hp to the wheels) and its basically undriveable in 1st and most of 2nd gear. Don't get me wrong, its great what some of you guys have been able to do in the past 3 years, but theres just NO way to harness all that power unless your in 3rd gear and your rollin' along




What's the point of a street car with 1000hp? any kind of car at all? what's the point of a Ferrari? what's the point of a sports car? I mean cars are just meant to get you from one point to the other.

This has got to be one of the silliest things ever posted on a car enthusiast message board.




Is it, really



Have you driven JD's Dad's ride


I know this, lets say you've got a new ZO6 and add the Magneson S/C'er to it and put out something like 650 hp, its going to be alot easier to drive than a 400 hp FWD car with 225 series tires on it Like I said, even with 350 hp to the front wheels the car is a beast, a handful and dare I say, DANGEROUS I'm sure it would be alot better with cheater slicks on it, but other than that, its too much power to put through the front tires. You know what though, I'd like see you and him run it in third gear and see what happens (on a closed coarse, ofcoarse )

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Barge
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Re: Clash of the titans.....???!!! new
#1310503 (Re: Klasse Act) 09/01/06 01:45 AM

Originally posted by Klasse Act:
You know what though, I'd like see you and him run it in third gear and see what happens (on a closed coarse, ofcoarse )




Sure.. and I'll lose just like I would to just about any turbocharged contour...

He's probably putting down 100-150 more hp to the wheels.. so yeah.. what's your point?

Yeah.. new corvette with 650 hp is terribly safe to drive. I'm sure just about any real performance car with only 2 drive wheels can light it up in the first 3 gears...

look at Ryelou's SRT4.. he can roast the 1st 3 gears yet is his car stupid? is his car pointless? are all those people with 5-600 hp SRT4's wasting their time? Yes.. they have found ways to get traction at the track... nobody with a contour has tried that hard to make it a drag car yet.

Look at how many stock STI's and EVO's get destroyed by people who can't handle the horsepower... or the guy on woodward that wrecked his twin turbo vette... but all those cars are probably pointless too since they are dangerous to drive with too much power...

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Re: Clash of the titans.....???!!! new
#1310510 (Re: Klasse Act) 09/01/06 01:55 AM

Originally posted by Klasse Act:
Forgive me for this, but WHATS THE POINT IMO this is a very expensive braggin' right title, but if thats your thing, more power to you and good luck I've driven JD's Dad's ride and it pulled 401 hp w/ 17 psi and its now turned down to about 12.5lbs (about 350 hp to the wheels) and its basically undriveable in 1st and most of 2nd gear. Don't get me wrong, its great what some of you guys have been able to do in the past 3 years, but theres just NO way to harness all that power unless your in 3rd gear and your rollin' along




The 2.5L....Umm yeah it pulled some power. But we aren't talking race gas and ice in the intercooler tank for one run.

We're talking pump gas here. Like Ray's car drove almost 100 miles rolled right onto the dyno and dropped down 350 at 10psi on pump gas.

The power is usable if you have multistage boost controllers and besides that it's fun as hell!
I'll tell you what, the turbo 3L isn't even the same animal as the turbo 2.5L engines. THe area under the curve below 5K rpm just absolutely tromps any turbo 2.5L graph I've ever seen, includign JD's Dads car....A very nice car I might add so no offense to it.

But there is still work to be done and there IS a point to it. Someone is going to make one of these suckers hook up. No one uses drag radials but once they are put on one of the 3L turbos there will be some absolute azz kickin at the strip and anywhere else.

Someone's got to do it.........

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Re: Clash of the titans.....???!!! new
#1310573 (Re: posthuman63t) 09/01/06 03:43 AM

Originally posted by posthuman63t:
Originally posted by TRicker:
well if i can make about 300 on a stock block with 135k miles on it, this coming spring i should be able to have a sheet at 400. what i was hoping to see was YOU warmonger put up a 500 WHP sheet




250 is not "about" 300 by any means...

I think it'll be nice to see a few more tours joining the 400 club. It is definatly a nice milestone.




Tricker just got served!!!!!!!! just messing with ya, but I would take a turbo over nitorus anyday. Nitrous is only fun untill the bottle runs out. Turbo's sound cooler too.

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Klasse Act
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Re: Clash of the titans.....???!!! new
#1311002 (Re: warmonger) 09/01/06 11:10 PM

Quote:

The power is usable if you have multistage boost controllers and besides that it's fun as hell!





Ah, now this makes some sense I wonder why more guys don't do this to their high hp FWD cars


MY only point about the ZO6 w/ a blower was this, its alot easier to handle on the street than a 400 hp FWD w/o the multi-stage boost controller, thats all


Damn I can't wait till my lease is over

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Kremithefrog
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Re: Clash of the titans.....???!!! new
#1311007 (Re: Klasse Act) 09/01/06 11:18 PM

Originally posted by Klasse Act:

Ah, now this makes some sense I wonder why more guys don't do this to their high hp FWD cars



Umm plenty of people do.

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