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MaddMike2
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Dyno #5 here it is
#1297748 - 08/10/06 07:31 PM

Dyno #5


should work now

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98 Tropic Green Contour 2.5 MTX

Edited by MaddMike2 (08/10/06 08:07 PM)

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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1297754 (Re: MaddMike2) 08/10/06 07:34 PM

So ummmm, wheres the dyno?

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1998 SVT Contour (SF/MB) #1266 parts car
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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1297764 (Re: CSVT1214) 08/10/06 07:44 PM

Originally posted by CSVT1214:
So ummmm, wheres the dyno?




Clicky Linky

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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1297765 (Re: MaddMike2) 08/10/06 07:46 PM

Originally posted by MaddMike2:
Originally posted by CSVT1214:
So ummmm, wheres the dyno?




Clicky Linky




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This is The Beast

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This will be a running account of the life and times of living with a 1998 Tropic Green Contour SE Sport w/ 2.5 and MTX with 135,000 on the clock.
A little back ground.
I bought the car for transportation in Oct. of 2004 because my 1991 Dakota was spending more time in the transmission shop than it was on the road. The second day I drove it the water pump died, as I've come to find out this is not uncommon. So now it has the steel impeller water pump. The next thing that was done was the install of the right spark plugs(Motor Craft) and a set of Ford Motor Sports 9mm wires (Red). For several months the car ran fine and I had no problems with it, except that the front window cracked as I was leaving work one cold January night. Next to get replaced was the cabin filter. Well in June I believe it was I started getting a clunking noise when I shifted and the shifter itself was binding up and felt stiff. Took it to a shop and was told that it was the clutch, and it was going to be about $1,400 to fix it. I was not going to spend that much on the car so I put it up for sale. Well the only buyers I got were from overseas and all scams (About 15 in all). So the car sat most of the summer. I finally talked to a friend of mine that works at a garage, he drove it and told me it was not the clutch but the motor mounts. So I bought a SVT front mount with inserts from BAT., and a rear SVT mount from the local Ford dealer. Took me about 1.5 hours to change them out. What a difference that made. No more clunking and the shifter is as smooth as glass.
If I ever figure out how to post pics I will.
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MaddMike1 Clean that sucker

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Well I decided to clean the UIM, LIM, MAF and TB since I wanted to change the front motor mount and the P/S pump any way I figured I would make a weekend of it(turned into a week LOL). Well I broke an EGR bolt(the one closest to the TB and in the process of getting it out broke the manifold)its fixed and does not leak. The two lines on top of the UIM broke getting them out(who ever worked on the car before epoxied them in) so it was call Ford again and wait for parts. The connectors that hold the lines in the UIM is called a Connector p# F5RZ-2A411-A $10.95. These things are a pain to get out, I used a 6in drift punch through the TB opening and a ball peen to drive them out. The line to the Brake Power Booster is F5RZ-2420-AE $23.53, The second line is called a vacuum manifold F6RZ-9E498-AD $34.07, The EGR bolts are p#W701625-S431 $7.82 pack of 2. I also got the IAC gasket from Ford p#E83Z-9F670-A $1.05. The Upper and Lower manifold, TB and EGR I got from Fel-Pro.

All the intake bolts are 8mm, TB and P/S pump 10mm, pressure line to P/S 18mm, Motor mount upper bracket 4 nuts 18mm, mount top bolt 18mm, mount to fender well three bolts 15mm.

It took me 15 cans of Berrymans to clean everything(I would take them to a shop for cleaning next time).

The car runs better and the butt Dyno says it makes more power but I will see for sure after ther real dyno run tomorrow.





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1998 SVT Contour (SF/MB) #1266 parts car
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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1297767 (Re: MaddMike2) 08/10/06 07:46 PM

there is no dyno sheet or anything refrencing a dyno in that link. its two blog posts from april 24th

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MaddMike2
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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1297787 (Re: MaddMike2) 08/10/06 08:08 PM

Link is hopefully working now, if not go to the FCO site and look at the blog that way

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Edited by MaddMike2 (08/10/06 08:11 PM)

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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1297830 (Re: MaddMike2) 08/10/06 08:37 PM

Originally posted by MaddMike2:
Link is hopefully working now, if not go to the FCO site and look at the blog that way




Link dosent work.



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99 TRed Contour SVT # 1853 out of 2760
230.2 WHP @ 6500
237.0 WTR @ 2250

Originally posted by MxRacer:
Originally posted by RawBurt:
I'll be keeping it to myself, until the time comes. It'll be hard to find.




much like your weiner.




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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1297844 (Re: Tourige) 08/10/06 08:52 PM

Link works for me. What are the mods again?

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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1297863 (Re: Y2KSVT) 08/10/06 09:25 PM

A whole bunch of ghetto stuff.

Are you switching up dynos? cause that one seems REALLY HIGH.

I dont really believe in a Dyno tho, its all in the 1/4

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99 TRed Contour SVT # 1853 out of 2760
230.2 WHP @ 6500
237.0 WTR @ 2250

Originally posted by MxRacer:
Originally posted by RawBurt:
I'll be keeping it to myself, until the time comes. It'll be hard to find.




much like your weiner.




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MaddMike2
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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1297866 (Re: Tourige) 08/10/06 09:34 PM

Originally posted by Tourige:
A whole bunch of ghetto stuff.

Are you switching up dynos? cause that one seems REALLY HIGH.

I dont really believe in a Dyno tho, its all in the 1/4




LOL You funny guy, you should go on road, make beeeg money, be comeedian, you no more waist talent at car wash.

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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1297884 (Re: MaddMike2) 08/10/06 10:00 PM

Originally posted by MaddMike2:
Originally posted by Tourige:
A whole bunch of ghetto stuff.

Are you switching up dynos? cause that one seems REALLY HIGH.

I dont really believe in a Dyno tho, its all in the 1/4




LOL You funny guy, you should go on road, make beeeg money, be comeedian, you no more waist talent at car wash.




Learn to shut you mouth before u stir a bee's nest. Now watch the name calling GOT IT!!


1.stock cat
2.Stock style muffler
3.Air intake. (ram air lmao)
4. stock 2.5 liter motor
5. No tune
6. Full of [censored] you are!!

No way u got a 14whp from just your catback on stock 2.5 liter.

Don't make me laugh any harder. Get a life liar!!


Sorry the dyno you are using is inaccurate.

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MaddMike2
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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1297887 (Re: Y2KSVT) 08/10/06 10:03 PM

Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Link works for me. What are the mods again?

Mark




The mods are SVT ECM, 19lb. SVT injectors, and the exhaust which consists of 2" pipes down from the manifolds into a 2" dual inlet- 2 1/2" single outlet Arvin/Supreme/Maramont Cat (the cat is a universal rated up to a 5.7L engine), the bank #1 downstream O2 is mounted into the top of the cat in the supplied bung. The muffler which is a Vortex V/Baffle 2.5 in-2.5 out is mounted directly to the cat. The rest of the system is 2.5" pipe that follows the stock routing until it goes around the fuel tank. Instead of putting all the 90's in it to come out in the stock location we used bends of no more that about 35 to 40 degrees to bring it out to exit on the passanger side. The car also has FR 9mm wires and Champion Double Plat plugs and a K&N drop in. Oh and least I forget the Ram Air.

I also have Full Syn oil:5W20 Valvoline in the motor, Syn Power P/S fluid and Syn Power tranny fluid also.

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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1297889 (Re: MaddMike2) 08/10/06 10:05 PM

Originally posted by MaddMike2:


LOL You funny guy, you should go on road, make beeeg money, be comeedian, you no more waist talent at car wash.




Do you mean...

Lol You are a funny guy. You should go on the road. You can make big money being a comedian. You no more of a waste of talent at a car wash.


Is that what you meant?? If you are going to rip on a guy. Don't talk [censored] if you can't back it up!!!
Or write it up!!!

Again get a life!!

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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1297897 (Re: Harrry) 08/10/06 10:16 PM

HeY Guyz!@# I Dynoz My Car today1!@#

check out my Graph1@



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99 TRed Contour SVT # 1853 out of 2760
230.2 WHP @ 6500
237.0 WTR @ 2250

Originally posted by MxRacer:
Originally posted by RawBurt:
I'll be keeping it to myself, until the time comes. It'll be hard to find.




much like your weiner.




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MaddMike2
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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1297913 (Re: Harrry) 08/10/06 10:45 PM

Originally posted by Harrry:
Originally posted by MaddMike2:
Originally posted by Tourige:
A whole bunch of ghetto stuff.

Are you switching up dynos? cause that one seems REALLY HIGH.

I dont really believe in a Dyno tho, its all in the 1/4




LOL You funny guy, you should go on road, make beeeg money, be comeedian, you no more waist talent at car wash.




Learn to shut you mouth before u stir a bee's nest. Now watch the name calling GOT IT!!


1.stock cat
2.Stock style muffler
3.Air intake. (ram air lmao)
4. stock 2.5 liter motor
5. No tune
6. Full of [censored] you are!!

No way u got a 14whp from just your catback on stock 2.5 liter.

Don't make me laugh any harder. Get a life liar!!


Sorry the dyno you are using is inaccurate.





To what do you base your statement that I'm a liar?? Were you at the Dyno? No you were not. Have you even seen my car in person? No you have not. Have you ever had your CSTV on a Dyno? If you have I can find no evidence of it.

Disprove my Dyno information if you can. In fact I say put your money were your mouth is. You come to Akron pay for the Dyno time and I will put my car on it and pull the same numbers as the last time. On top of that I will lay $1K on the bench at the Dyno, if the car does not meet or better the previous numbers you get the $1K, if it does what I claim it can do you pay me $1K and go home having learned the lesson : That if YOU can't run with the Big Dogs don't get off the Porch.

As for it not having a Tune it does, an SVT Tune.

The Cat is not stock for this car, it was made to flow for a V-8 5.7L to be exact.

The muffler is not a stock type muffler any more than a Flow Master is, if you want to see one go to
Supremeperformance.com and look under Vortex V-Baffle. By the way this muffler works very well with the exhaust physics of the 2.5.

I can tell that you have not been around real men that modify automobiles much, if you had you would know that you do not make claims that you can not back up. If you can not back up your mouth you lose money, maybe your car or maybe a few teeth. I on the other hand can back up everything I have said, I can back it up with the car, with the documented information and I can back it up with money.

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MaddMike2
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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1297918 (Re: Tourige) 08/10/06 10:56 PM

Originally posted by Tourige:
HeY Guyz!@# I Dynoz My Car today1!@#

check out my Graph1@










Someday if you survive long enough with out making the Darwin list, you just might learn that: Ignorance can be over come, but that stupidity can be deadly.

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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1297919 (Re: MaddMike2) 08/10/06 10:56 PM

What kinda dyno is it?

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91 Escort GT (almost sold)
96 ATX Zetec (i brake to watch you swerve)

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WTB: Very cheap beater

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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1297945 (Re: MaddMike2) 08/10/06 11:34 PM

Originally posted by MaddMike2:
Originally posted by Harrry:
Originally posted by MaddMike2:
Originally posted by Tourige:
A whole bunch of ghetto stuff.

Are you switching up dynos? cause that one seems REALLY HIGH.

I dont really believe in a Dyno tho, its all in the 1/4




LOL You funny guy, you should go on road, make beeeg money, be comeedian, you no more waist talent at car wash.




Learn to shut you mouth before u stir a bee's nest. Now watch the name calling GOT IT!!


1.stock cat
2.Stock style muffler

3.Air intake. (ram air lmao)
4. stock 2.5 liter motor
5. No tune
6. Full of [censored] you are!!

No way u got a 14whp from just your catback on stock 2.5 liter.

Don't make me laugh any harder. Get a life liar!!


Sorry the dyno you are using is inaccurate.





To what do you base your statement that I'm a liar?? Were you at the Dyno? No you were not. Have you even seen my car in person? No you have not. Have you ever had your CSTV on a Dyno? If you have I can find no evidence of it.

Disprove my Dyno information if you can. In fact I say put your money were your mouth is. You come to Akron pay for the Dyno time and I will put my car on it and pull the same numbers as the last time. On top of that I will lay $1K on the bench at the Dyno, if the car does not meet or better the previous numbers you get the $1K, if it does what I claim it can do you pay me $1K and go home having learned the lesson : That if YOU can't run with the Big Dogs don't get off the Porch.

As for it not having a Tune it does, an SVT Tune.

The Cat is not stock for this car, it was made to flow for a V-8 5.7L to be exact.

The muffler is not a stock type muffler any more than a Flow Master is, if you want to see one go to
Supremeperformance.com and look under Vortex V-Baffle. By the way this muffler works very well with the exhaust physics of the 2.5.

I can tell that you have not been around real men that modify automobiles much, if you had you would know that you do not make claims that you can not back up. If you can not back up your mouth you lose money, maybe your car or maybe a few teeth. I on the other hand can back up everything I have said, I can back it up with the car, with the documented information and I can back it up with money.





Don't get mad cause your car didn;t gain 14whp and people think your a liar.

Answer me this, what dignifies being a man??? Please elaborate why i am not, cause i do not modify cars. om so you know my life.

Lmao you must be very immature to target my life. Lets stick to the subject we are talking about your car . I called you a liar about your dyno. If you want to insult me, take it to the pms before this gets closed, or are you a rebel and don't apprechiate rules??

I called you out on your car. You must be too young to reliaze you are not talking your car. You are targeting my life. Which shows your age my friend very well. I have nothing to say about my life too you, casue it's not about my life .

We on ceg have seen many like you say how you built 1000+hp cars and you are the best mechanic in the world bla bla bla... You need to grow up.
Sorry your 14whp exhuast is B.S





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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1297947 (Re: MaddMike2) 08/10/06 11:40 PM

Originally posted by MaddMike2:
I will do it the cheapest way I can with out using SVT parts





Okay i got you here. no problem you don't use svt parts


Originally posted by MaddMike2:

The mods are SVT ECM, 19lb. SVT injectors





Oh wait so u do use svt parts. Hmmm your lies are coming out my friend.


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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1298080 (Re: Kremithefrog) 08/11/06 02:14 AM

Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
What kinda dyno is it?




DynoJet

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MaddMike2
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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1298109 (Re: Harrry) 08/11/06 02:51 AM

Originally posted by Harrry:
Originally posted by MaddMike2:
Originally posted by Harrry:
Originally posted by MaddMike2:
Originally posted by Tourige:
A whole bunch of ghetto stuff.

Are you switching up dynos? cause that one seems REALLY HIGH.

I dont really believe in a Dyno tho, its all in the 1/4




LOL You funny guy, you should go on road, make beeeg money, be comeedian, you no more waist talent at car wash.




Learn to shut you mouth before u stir a bee's nest. Now watch the name calling GOT IT!!


1.stock cat
2.Stock style muffler

3.Air intake. (ram air lmao)
4. stock 2.5 liter motor
5. No tune
6. Full of [censored] you are!!

No way u got a 14whp from just your catback on stock 2.5 liter.

Don't make me laugh any harder. Get a life liar!!


Sorry the dyno you are using is inaccurate.





To what do you base your statement that I'm a liar?? Were you at the Dyno? No you were not. Have you even seen my car in person? No you have not. Have you ever had your CSTV on a Dyno? If you have I can find no evidence of it.

Disprove my Dyno information if you can. In fact I say put your money were your mouth is. You come to Akron pay for the Dyno time and I will put my car on it and pull the same numbers as the last time. On top of that I will lay $1K on the bench at the Dyno, if the car does not meet or better the previous numbers you get the $1K, if it does what I claim it can do you pay me $1K and go home having learned the lesson : That if YOU can't run with the Big Dogs don't get off the Porch.

As for it not having a Tune it does, an SVT Tune.

The Cat is not stock for this car, it was made to flow for a V-8 5.7L to be exact.

The muffler is not a stock type muffler any more than a Flow Master is, if you want to see one go to
Supremeperformance.com and look under Vortex V-Baffle. By the way this muffler works very well with the exhaust physics of the 2.5.

I can tell that you have not been around real men that modify automobiles much, if you had you would know that you do not make claims that you can not back up. If you can not back up your mouth you lose money, maybe your car or maybe a few teeth. I on the other hand can back up everything I have said, I can back it up with the car, with the documented information and I can back it up with money.





Don't get mad cause your car didn;t gain 14whp and people think your a liar.

Answer me this, what dignifies being a man??? Please elaborate why i am not, cause i do not modify cars. om so you know my life.

Lmao you must be very immature to target my life. Lets stick to the subject we are talking about your car . I called you a liar about your dyno. If you want to insult me, take it to the pms before this gets closed, or are you a rebel and don't apprechiate rules??

I called you out on your car. You must be too young to reliaze you are not talking your car. You are targeting my life. Which shows your age my friend very well. I have nothing to say about my life too you, casue it's not about my life .

We on ceg have seen many like you say how you built 1000+hp cars and you are the best mechanic in the world bla bla bla... You need to grow up.
Sorry your 14whp exhuast is B.S








Lets recap, You called me a liar, I have yet to call you anything. I have asked you to disprove my statments, you can not do it. Calling someone a liar with out the facts to back it up is meaningless. Prove were and how I'm lieing. If you will exspand the Dyno sheet it is quit Obvious that it has not been altered like some have implied. I have offered up a solution to this problen but you have totaly ignored it. If this had been done by one of the Contour gurus no one would have questioned it.

The whole idea of moding a car is to try new things and different ideas. Not following convention is the whole idea. I could do a 3L or spend 3+k on a turbo, but I chose to follow a different path, I like being a Rebel, what fun would it be if our cars all looked the same.

Harry wrote: "Answer me this, what dignifies being a man??? Please elaborate why i am not, cause i do not modify cars. om so you know my life".

I have no idea what so ever why your not a man, that is soming you have to answer for yourself, but a first step might be not calling names.

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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1298117 (Re: MaddMike2) 08/11/06 03:00 AM

Why don't you both get a room. (Take it to pm's, my god, your both just embarassing yourselves)

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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1298119 (Re: Harrry) 08/11/06 03:01 AM

"Lets recap, You called me a liar, I have yet to call you anything. I have asked you to disprove my statments, you can not do it. Calling someone a liar with out the facts to back it up is meaningless. Prove were and how I'm lieing."

I think his reason for calling you a liar can be viewed below.

Aaron

Originally posted by Harrry:
Originally posted by MaddMike2:
I will do it the cheapest way I can with out using SVT parts





Okay i got you here. no problem you don't use svt parts


Originally posted by MaddMike2:

The mods are SVT ECM, 19lb. SVT injectors





Oh wait so u do use svt parts. Hmmm your lies are coming out my friend.









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Kremithefrog
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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1298128 (Re: MaddMike2) 08/11/06 03:08 AM

I can get you a free run on a mustang dyno to see if that dyno is right. Though I do reckon that's a long ride.
Something ain't quite right here..... or it is possible you just got a freak.

I'll gaurantee one thing... do the same mods on another regular 2.5 and the same outcome (on a definite correct dyno) will not occur.

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98.5 SVT
91 Escort GT (almost sold)
96 ATX Zetec (i brake to watch you swerve)

FS: SVT rear sway bar
WTB: Very cheap beater

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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1298169 (Re: MaddMike2) 08/11/06 03:28 AM

Originally posted by MaddMike2:
I have asked you to disprove my statments, you can not do it.





I did If you read on page 2.

Originally posted by Harrry:
No way u got a 14whp from just your catback on stock 2.5 liter.




Sorry man you don't get it the dyno has to be messed up. I have been saying that since day one. It is inaccurate.

Make a post, honestly about your mods and then ask them if you put ca catback on will i gain 14hp at the wheels.

Ask the ceg community and see what they answer you with. See not only from my opinion but everyones elses. The people will answer this question if you would set it up.


If you want too dare, Post this simple question in a thread!!!




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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1298223 (Re: Harrry) 08/11/06 04:21 AM

I'm sure this guy has more knowledge then the engineers and Mechanics at Borla, Magnaflow, Bosal, Trubendz (etc.) Hence he makes more power

What an idiot..

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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1298229 (Re: Harrry) 08/11/06 04:25 AM

Oh for the love of what ever you believe in, Its not just a Cat Back. Read the info please, enough is enough the complete exhaust was replaced, the Y-pipe is gone, the cat has been changed, the pipe size has been increased, the muffler has been changed plus the routing has been changed.

Has anyone else on this board done a testing regiment like this? Modify then test, do the next mod then test? Not that I have seen. I have seen I did this and this and this and this and then I tested. How do you know exactly which mod did what. If someone else has done a mod by mod test series please tell me so I can look at it and compare results.

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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1298239 (Re: MaddMike2) 08/11/06 04:32 AM

Originally posted by MaddMike2:
Oh for the love of what ever you believe in, Its not just a Cat Back. Read the info please, enough is enough the complete exhaust was replaced, the Y-pipe is gone, the cat has been changed, the pipe size has been increased, the muffler has been changed plus the routing has been changed.

Has anyone else on this board done a testing regiment like this? Modify then test, do the next mod then test? Not that I have seen. I have seen I did this and this and this and this and then I tested. How do you know exactly which mod did what. If someone else has done a mod by mod test series please tell me so I can look at it and compare results.




There was a few, but with svts. Search will help you find them.

I have never or heard of ever an exhaust doing over 7whp on any contour. And that was on a 3 Liter. Let alone a 14whp on a stock 2.5 liter.

It just doesn't make sense. Period. No contour has ever dynoed a 14whp on a stock 2.5 liter motor without a FI or nitrous.

Please show us some pics of your exhaust!! I would really like to see this y-pipe back single catback exhaust. I can not really see the pipe angles changing very much. Because of our only path of routing it.

Again can you see how others saw we only gain 5whp from a catback. that is saying on a svt.

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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1298242 (Re: MaddMike2) 08/11/06 04:35 AM

I still see no [censored] dyno charts...

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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1298243 (Re: Harrry) 08/11/06 04:35 AM

Originally posted by Harrry:
Originally posted by MaddMike2:
I have asked you to disprove my statments, you can not do it.





I did If you read on page 2.

Originally posted by Harrry:
No way u got a 14whp from just your catback on stock 2.5 liter.




Sorry man you don't get it the dyno has to be messed up. I have been saying that since day one. It is inaccurate.

Make a post, honestly about your mods and then ask them if you put ca catback on will i gain 14hp at the wheels.

Ask the ceg community and see what they answer you with. See not only from my opinion but everyones elses. The people will answer this question if you would set it up.


If you want too dare, Post this simple question in a thread!!!







It would be a useless thread as no one has ever put an SVT ECM in an SE before and moded on top of that base configuration before. At least not that I can find doing a search.

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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1298246 (Re: MaddMike2) 08/11/06 04:39 AM

Originally posted by MaddMike2:
Originally posted by Harrry:
Originally posted by MaddMike2:
I have asked you to disprove my statments, you can not do it.





I did If you read on page 2.

Originally posted by Harrry:
No way u got a 14whp from just your catback on stock 2.5 liter.




Sorry man you don't get it the dyno has to be messed up. I have been saying that since day one. It is inaccurate.

Make a post, honestly about your mods and then ask them if you put ca catback on will i gain 14hp at the wheels.

Ask the ceg community and see what they answer you with. See not only from my opinion but everyones elses. The people will answer this question if you would set it up.


If you want too dare, Post this simple question in a thread!!!







It would be a useless thread as no one has ever put an SVT ECM in an SE before and moded on top of that base configuration before. At least not that I can find doing a search.





Well sorry it has been done!!!

And yes our community can tell a differnce.It's almost like adding a chip, but half ass, cause you don't have the flow characteristics of the svt intakes and cams. So u gained like 3 hp from it. It's not like the svt pcm gives 200 hp lol. You have a dyno plot of the pcm added later. You said the catback gave 14whp say that. Trust me ask the community!!!!

If you can handle the truth ask everyone???

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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1298248 (Re: MapOfTaziFoSho) 08/11/06 04:40 AM

Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
I still see no [censored] dyno charts...




Go to FCO site its there


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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1298254 (Re: MaddMike2) 08/11/06 04:51 AM

Originally posted by MaddMike2:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
I still see no [censored] dyno charts...




Go to FCO site its there





I am perma banned from that site. The [censored] guy who started it is a [censored] moron and needs to get a [censored] life. I cannot believe that I leave the women and my friends at the bar to drunken post on this forum that is going down the tubes faster than FCO, which by he way is a freaking JOKE! The only knowledge base there is Terry. Buckeye or whomever is a joke.
OMFG that place is full of the guys that cannot begin to understand autos...

I remember the only real post I was ever apart of on there had to do with some guy whose wheel was seized to the hub and he couldn't figrue out how to get it off...

The knowledge base for our cars is on its way out of here...good luck for all u cheap bastards.

AND BTW changing anything on your car without tuning it to compensate is retarded. The tolerances you are dealing with in these newer cars are so tight it isn't even funny. I feel like a complete hack for modding my car without tuning it every step of the way.

But hey you can be cheap and don't need any brand name stuff...Maddmike post a damn link that works on THIS SITE.





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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1298329 (Re: MaddMike2) 08/11/06 12:00 PM

Originally posted by MaddMike2:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Link works for me. What are the mods again?

Mark




The mods are SVT ECM, 19lb. SVT injectors, and the exhaust which consists of 2" pipes down from the manifolds into a 2" dual inlet- 2 1/2" single outlet Arvin/Supreme/Maramont Cat (the cat is a universal rated up to a 5.7L engine), the bank #1 downstream O2 is mounted into the top of the cat in the supplied bung. The muffler which is a Vortex V/Baffle 2.5 in-2.5 out is mounted directly to the cat. The rest of the system is 2.5" pipe that follows the stock routing until it goes around the fuel tank. Instead of putting all the 90's in it to come out in the stock location we used bends of no more that about 35 to 40 degrees to bring it out to exit on the passanger side. The car also has FR 9mm wires and Champion Double Plat plugs and a K&N drop in. Oh and least I forget the Ram Air.

I also have Full Syn oil:5W20 Valvoline in the motor, Syn Power P/S fluid and Syn Power tranny fluid also.




I can't see the dyno for some reason. Can't you just link a picture of it for this thread?
Also, what are the numbers?

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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1298334 (Re: MapOfTaziFoSho) 08/11/06 12:05 PM

Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
Originally posted by MaddMike2:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
I still see no [censored] dyno charts...




Go to FCO site its there





I am perma banned from that site. The [censored] guy who started it is a [censored] moron and needs to get a [censored] life. I cannot believe that I leave the women and my friends at the bar to drunken post on this forum that is going down the tubes faster than FCO, which by he way is a freaking JOKE! The only knowledge base there is Terry. Buckeye or whomever is a joke.
OMFG that place is full of the guys that cannot begin to understand autos...

I remember the only real post I was ever apart of on there had to do with some guy whose wheel was seized to the hub and he couldn't figrue out how to get it off...

The knowledge base for our cars is on its way out of here...good luck for all u cheap bastards.

AND BTW changing anything on your car without tuning it to compensate is retarded. The tolerances you are dealing with in these newer cars are so tight it isn't even funny. I feel like a complete hack for modding my car without tuning it every step of the way.

But hey you can be cheap and don't need any brand name stuff...Maddmike post a damn link that works on THIS SITE.








Bwhahahahaha.. <tears> Bwahahahahaha

I agree he should post the plot here if he wants some honest feedback.
Plus, this crap of calling him a liar and the ensuing argument is getting no where until we can all look at it and see what happened.

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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1298461 (Re: warmonger) 08/11/06 03:00 PM

Tom, did you not do a back to back dyno on your SVT, with the stock exhaust, and then dropping the exhaust? I thought it was you, and you gained ~7WHP?

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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1298776 (Re: MaddMike2) 08/11/06 09:58 PM

Could you post some pics of your exhaust. I would really like to see what you have diff over the stock looking exhaust.


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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1299427 (Re: Y2KSVT) 08/13/06 01:06 AM

Best I gained with the exhaust redone and the emanage was 12HP over not having it. Best I did with exhaust dropped was 217.

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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1300397 (Re: warmonger) 08/14/06 09:32 PM

I dont see how this is totaly unbelievable, i went from 105whp/108tq to 120whp/123tq with a PCM change(not a custom tune)and a UDP, I also gained about 30ft-lbs at 5900rpm in my Escort.

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#1300471 (Re: teamZetec) 08/14/06 10:50 PM

Originally posted by teamZetec:
I dont see how this is totaly unbelievable, i went from 105whp/108tq to 120whp/123tq with a PCM change(not a custom tune)and a UDP, I also gained about 30ft-lbs at 5900rpm in my Escort.




Maybe because he still has yet to post a graph...

Perhaps because going back over years of modifying an SE MYSELF and with the additional information from people on this site, I find it HIGHLY unlikely that you can get an Standard Duratec to 170whp on his above stated mods alone.



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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1301004 (Re: MaddMike2) 08/15/06 05:47 PM

Originally posted by MaddMike2:
Dyno #5


should work now




Call me a 'facilitator', in hopes of this thread going somewhere.



Grabbed from FCO (f*ck the reg process is a PITA, scaled to fit to screen).

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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1301008 (Re: gooserex) 08/15/06 06:16 PM

Well, they look like SE cams to me from the dyno.

Irregardless of the actual numbers there appears to be a solid gain between the first dyno and the second dyno throughout the powerband.

This is about what would happen to a car if it were dyno'd on a 70 degree day versus a 90 degree day without temperature corrections on the plots.
It could also be something like a better intake...maybe a cold-air intake or to someone tuning a better air fuel ratio.


Doh! You said you used some sort of forced air system to simulate a ram-air. That totally explains it to me because there is now more air in the cylinders due to less intake restriction.

Putting an intake into practice that can actually provide this kind of airflow at all times is the real challenge.

Actually its the same principle behind a turbo system except on a much smaller scale.

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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1301186 (Re: gooserex) 08/15/06 11:24 PM

Thanks for posting the Dyno sheet, as for posting pics of the exhaust I have not been able to borrow a digital cam yet.

To see what the front at the manifolds looks like go to BAT Inc, web site and look at their Y-pipe, mine is very much like it. They claim 8-10 HP increase with just the Y-pipe. With the right muffler and the different routing of the exhaust 4hp more on top of that is not an unreasonable gain. Also now that the exhaust is more open the SVT computers tune maybe working better.

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Re: Dyno #5 here it is new
#1302190 (Re: MaddMike2) 08/17/06 07:27 AM

Originally posted by MaddMike2:
Thanks for posting the Dyno sheet, as for posting pics of the exhaust I have not been able to borrow a digital cam yet.

To see what the front at the manifolds looks like go to BAT Inc, web site and look at their Y-pipe, mine is very much like it. They claim 8-10 HP increase with just the Y-pipe. With the right muffler and the different routing of the exhaust 4hp more on top of that is not an unreasonable gain. Also now that the exhaust is more open the SVT computers tune maybe working better.





Um your y-pipe probably added 4 hp casue u still have a main cat. And 3 hp from a catback with new muffler.

7 hp the most!!

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