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3L FAQ thread. Big dogs chime in. Newbies READ!!!!
#740593 - 10/15/04 02:28 PM

Starting a post to eventually sticky at the top of this forum. Covered in this post will need to be: Proven combinations, terms used specifically in this forum, best prices, links to more information on the net to other FAQ, etc. I don't want any more newbies posting the same old junk and search nazi's chiming in only to get threads locked. Point them here and let their thread die a natural death.

Newbies: Your post had better start off with something like "I searched and read the FAQ post, but I still need some information..." if you are expecting to get any sort of heartfelt response.

Now, to start it off, I'll be SEARCHING to find some answers to common questions, and then posting the links back in this thread. Good day.



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Re: 3L FAQ thread. Big dogs chime in. Newbies READ!!!! new
#740601 (Re: bnoon) 10/15/04 02:32 PM

New Parts

Signature Lincoln Mercury

Very well respected CEG parts resource. Learn the phone number by heart.

Bill Jenkins/Steve Mullins contact info:

www.SignatureLM.com 24/7 online parts catalog
parts@signaturelm.com
800-876-3280 x272

Used Parts

http://www.car-part.com
http://www.ebaymotors.com
http://www.contour.org/classifieds


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#740609 (Re: bnoon) 10/15/04 02:48 PM

Very good info here: Greg's (DemonSVT) web site

Supplier of prepped 3L's here: Buckshot Motorsports

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#740611 (Re: bnoon) 10/15/04 02:50 PM

Prepped engines, miscellaneous parts, custom engine builds/combinations:

www.buckshotmotorsports.com

Custom Tuning:
www.arizonadynochip.com

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#740613 (Re: Buckshot77) 10/15/04 02:52 PM

Haha, beat you to it.

Also, I wanted to mention that Rick's site, buckshotmotorsportsdotcalm also contains most of my old FAQ, albeit somewhat dated.

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#740614 (Re: bnoon) 10/15/04 02:56 PM

Warmonger's 3l info here. Where's the turbo info Tom?

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#740631 (Re: bnoon) 10/15/04 03:20 PM

I also used www.1stfordparts.com to get mosts of my needed parts for my swap. Good guys, great service.

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#740645 (Re: RTStabler51) 10/15/04 03:36 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you can get all of your rod/main bearings from Nicholas at DuratecPerformance.com.

Mark

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Re: 3L FAQ thread. Big dogs chime in. Newbies READ!!!! new
#740705 (Re: bnoon) 10/15/04 04:37 PM

For full 01+ swap fuel rail, TB bracket & possibly IAC relocated (some say they don't have hood issues). Hard vac lines also need to be fabed together. I don't have a pic right now of that.

Brazed fuel rail.
http://www.fototime.com/CEA8663E94D0658/standard.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/FAF2BF14234F369/orig.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/08B117EDCCEAC3B/orig.jpg

Home made rail w/ aeroquip by A2Steve.
http://www.fototime.com/5665C01B980A945/orig.jpg

3L TB bracket matted/brazed with SVT bracket and SVT TB cable has to be used.
http://www.fototime.com/E629D2613D0EAA1/orig.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/565D616371DE35A/orig.jpg

Relocated IAC.
http://www.fototime.com/DF3162FDE436CE4/orig.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/9A5FAA82ADB0C66/orig.jpg

All this work was performed my Terry Haines.

If you want to use the 3L oil pan it needs to be modified for 2 tranny points. Otherwise use the 2.5 oil pan and P/U tube. And DO NOT grind off or bend up the support for the P/U tube. I don't have the part # for the correct P/U to be used so the support is retained.

Pulse wheel needs to be changed to 2.5 along with 2.5 timing cover.

And if you don't want to do it that way then your other option is a hybrid. Take all 2.5 components and swap them onto a 3L block. Simple as that right?




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#740792 (Re: bnoon) 10/15/04 06:34 PM

Here's the links I've gathered during my Hybrid install:

Size up an air filter that is large enough for a 3L's demands
Choosing a oil for your new block
Hybrid How-To over at NECO
Different ways to "fill the holes" when going the Hybrid route
Timing a Hybrid (2.5L heads w/ 3L block) and info on the TSB released for mismarked timing chains
Upgrading your pre-98 to SVT injectors
Get a custom tuned chip from ADC (aka StreetFlight)
Break-in your new block right!



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#741975 (Re: bnoon) 10/17/04 04:36 PM

Originally posted by bnoon:
Warmonger's 3l info here. Where's the turbo info Tom?




I'm too busy most of the time here in Iraq and when I'm not I'm lazy as f*ck!
I suppose I could wrap up all of my turbo research and experimentation into one huge website again but I can't host it. I think I've tried almost every combination out there and found some real winners. When I get back home I'm going to open up the exhaust system with headers instead of the simple manifolds that I'm using now in order to show just how much can be gained with the upgrade. The system I did in February was an example of how cost effective it could be to get almost 330 wHP on just 8-9 psi and 91 octane.
If I put this stuff together in a webpage who's going to host it for me?

tom

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Re: 3L FAQ thread. Big dogs chime in. Newbies READ!!!! new
#741984 (Re: bnoon) 10/17/04 04:43 PM

I would recommend getting the Ford Escape '01 and later blocks because they have the correct mounts for almost every 2.5L part. It has the closest fit for hybrids and for a full 3L drop in it requires very little prep work.


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Re: 3L FAQ thread. Big dogs chime in. Newbies READ new
#742051 (Re: warmonger) 10/17/04 07:16 PM

Originally posted by warmonger:

If I put this stuff together in a webpage who's going to host it for me?





How much space you looking at?

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#742984 (Re: DeltarMN) 10/18/04 07:49 PM

Take a look at my cardomain page for info on my 3L swaps and some great pictures:

www.cardomain.com/id/blackcoog

I'll update it as soon as I finish the cougar up in the next week or two.

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#743740 (Re: bnoon) 10/19/04 05:15 PM

Ok,

I was working on my new webpage and I kept adding crap to it so that it would be complete...you know how I am. Well its up to 10 MB already and I'm about half done. Thats because of all the pictures and stuff.
The real problem is that I set my sights on a really complete webpage that features not only my stuff but other special Contours that are out there. Then I thought I should put in a resource section too so when you access it it has all of the information. Since there are other people on here that have some nice rides and have done some nice work, I want to have them help out with some of the writings.
The page is kind of focused towards SVT's but all the special contour projects are welcome, or cougars, or mystiques, and yes even 4 cylinders.


There is a whole section of the webpage that I've set up to showcase various project cars. Here are some of the names I'm thinking of:

Keyser
Suneil
DemonSVT
Bnoon
Buckshot
BeyondloadedSE
BurritaSVT
Stazi (the aussie)
Pojay
DDavis
Seawulf (?? maybe, should we let him in ??)
Any More??

OK, here is the deal: You have to still own the car and it has to be running or been running (i.e. ok if it broke) in order to have your car featured. If you have knowledge to contribute then you can get under the resources section.

The last section is Resources.
This will have discussions on the following topics, with suggested members doing some writing for the discussions:

Tuning (Keyser, DemonSVT, myself others?)
3L Conversion/hybrid ( Bnoon, myself, Demon, Buckshot,??)
MTX-75 (Terry Haines??, Demon, TorsenRick, myself)
Brakes (Rara, Todd from TCE, Stazi)
Turbo packaging, piping, sizing, etc.(Myself, Rara, Demon, ?)
Internals, forged/stock (Buckshot, Keyser, Myself, others)
Suspension/rims/tires (Stazi, there are a ton of people for this)

This isn't an all inclusive list but it gives you guys the idea. If you have an area you specialize in and you are willing to write some literature on it; provide diagrams, pictures or something like that, then you can help tremendously. It really only takes about an hour to write up a discussion for a basic topic. If you spend a bit more time to make it really nice then of course it will be much better.

I will Orient the whole website on everyone depending on the amount of support I get. YOu can send completed webpages of your own or just the raw materials to add to the one I am working on. When it is complete we will have a combined reference for all contour owners that Also showcases our Cars and our Talents that we applied to them.

Here is also an Idea for later:
If there is enough material we can make it on a CD Rom and let Lance sell it as larger compilation for money to help run the site. The CD could have a much larger refernce base with all kinds of pictures and literature about contours and duratec engines. That would make it useful for any future Ford/Mazda owners with duratecs.

Just pm if you are interested in contributing and email me the information as its completed.

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Re: 3L FAQ thread. Big dogs chime in. Newbies READ!!!! new
#743879 (Re: warmonger) 10/19/04 07:57 PM

what about me?

first one to push an atx to the limits with a 3L (not the first 3L atx though)

first and ONLY one to do a high stall torque convertor

one of the few to have sonnax valves and a shiftkit

fastest N/A pass with an atx. 15.02 @ 91 and my car ran like total SH!T then too. easily had a mid 14 sec pass or better in it!

one of the few to do an ATX->MTX conversion (95% done)

installed a torsen

not to mention i jsut turned 19 when i did my 3L swap myself, and i just turned 20 a few months ago


one of, if not the youngest to have a 3L, and i did it all myself


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Re: 3L FAQ thread. Big dogs chime in. Newbies READ!!!! new
#743892 (Re: Russell-3L) 10/19/04 08:08 PM

STFU and post more specifics!

where you got your crap etc :-)

Originally posted by Russell-3L:
what about me?

first one to push an atx to the limits with a 3L (not the first 3L atx though)

first and ONLY one to do a high stall torque convertor

one of the few to have sonnax valves and a shiftkit

fastest N/A pass with an atx. 15.02 @ 91 and my car ran like total SH!T then too. easily had a mid 14 sec pass or better in it!

one of the few to do an ATX->MTX conversion (95% done)

installed a torsen

not to mention i jsut turned 19 when i did my 3L swap myself, and i just turned 20 a few months ago


one of, if not the youngest to have a 3L, and i did it all myself





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Re: 3L FAQ thread. Big dogs chime in. Newbies READ!!!! new
#743922 (Re: RTStabler51) 10/19/04 08:30 PM

No offense, but if your car was running THAT bad, I don't see people taking your advise to build a crappy running 3.0L.

And what is it with younger guys saying "all by myself" like they want a cookie? Congrats though, your car is definitely coming around

Originally posted by RTStabler51:
STFU and post more specifics!

where you got your crap etc :-)

Originally posted by Russell-3L:
what about me?

first one to push an atx to the limits with a 3L (not the first 3L atx though)

first and ONLY one to do a high stall torque convertor

one of the few to have sonnax valves and a shiftkit

fastest N/A pass with an atx. 15.02 @ 91 and my car ran like total SH!T then too. easily had a mid 14 sec pass or better in it!

one of the few to do an ATX->MTX conversion (95% done)

installed a torsen

not to mention i jsut turned 19 when i did my 3L swap myself, and i just turned 20 a few months ago


one of, if not the youngest to have a 3L, and i did it all myself








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Re: 3L FAQ thread. Big dogs chime in. Newbies READ!!!! new
#743930 (Re: Y2KSVT) 10/19/04 08:46 PM

Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
No offense, but if your car was running THAT bad, I don't see people taking your advise to build a crappy running 3.0L.






running crappy - stock single exhaust, bad o2 sensors, lots of o2 related CELs. bald snow tires, busted roll resistors (used $3.99 polyurethane from home depot instead of 94A urethane that i used this time around, didnt hold up at all)

my tranny was acting up, O/D light was flashing like crazy. thats why i swapped to MTX.

other than that, the engine ran great, and ive fixed ALL them problems during ym mtx conversion

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#744528 (Re: Russell-3L) 10/20/04 08:55 AM

Of course. Russel3L, how could I have forgotten! I should have had you at the top of the list. j/k

Yeah no problem. That is the sort of thing I want on the webpage.
***For everyone*****
1. Send the writeups in NOTEPAD (yes a text editor) in a logical format so I can import them easily into the webpage. I will edit, improve grammar and spelling out there for you gearheads who are challenged with english writing skills.
2. Add pictures but make sure they are reasonably good quality BUT NOT TOO BIG! I don't need 50mb of emails coming in at once.
3. Send scans of dyno sheets if you want your horsepower number posted.
4. Send a scan of your 1/4 mile slip if you want that posted. I won't take hearsay on it either.
5. This is performance oriented and Aesthetics oriented. You have to have done some significant performance mods along with the aesthetics. Aesthetics alone (like body kits) are not going to get into this page.

Pictures should be representative of the whole car, the engine/powertrain, interior, Car Audio, etc. (Not, "look how cool my glued-on piece of carbon fiber came out" unless it is part of an overall interior theme for the car)

I reserve the right to edit down the writeups so that I can conserve space. I'll send you the completed writeup before it gets posted if you aren't sure you trust me. I also reserve the right to post only those projects that are excellent examples of creativity or hardwork or fanatical dedication or pioneering, or if you fall into all those categories then even better. Essentially, its ok if you are dumb about cars and had someone build it for you. Just send the story with the pictures.

For the discussion section: I just need a list of AYE or NAY for those people who are willing to contribute and list their topic sent as a PM for me. Send the writeup to my email address in Word/Notepad format with pictures, spreadsheets, powerpoint, etc.


Send them to jbrant02@earthlink.net

***I'm going to count on you guys to help spread the word to those who are likely to work on this.

BTW, Where's Greg?????

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#744824 (Re: warmonger) 10/20/04 06:03 PM

Tom, you might get more of a response to your web page ideas if you had your own thread about it. We've got your page linked, so any added info you put on your site will be noticed.

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#745010 (Re: warmonger) 10/20/04 09:20 PM

Originally posted by warmonger:

BTW, Where's Greg?????



Who knows...

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Re: Webpage Requirements; Big dogs speak UP! new
#745674 (Re: bnoon) 10/21/04 04:03 PM

I don't have access to my old webpage. They have just neglected to delete it.
I am going to set up the new webpage at a different address.
I also don't want 100 different offers from people with a different type of muffler or air filter so I am keeping it off the mainstream.

As far as hosting other peoples vehicles:
I can do it like I described, or I can focus the page primarily on my own work and then host a brief summary and a picture and link to a webpage describing the work for other people.

In the resources section I want to get help from other people. I can compile information from every section but I'd prefer to get a cooperative effort.
So Bnoon, Greg, are you guys willing to help out?



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#745964 (Re: warmonger) 10/21/04 08:59 PM

Originally posted by warmonger:
So Bnoon, Greg, are you guys willing to help out?






Yes, I'm willing to help out where I can. Just keep in mind I've been Contour-less for almost two years now... I can also help with any web site design you may have questions about... Have you thought about your own hosting space? $4.95 a month IIRC from http://www.lowesthosting.com

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#746481 (Re: bnoon) 10/22/04 01:01 PM

I just updated my cardomain page with a short "how-to" on 3L head porting. Feel free to use the link.

Click here and go to page 3

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2003 VW Passat W8 with 4 Motion AWD

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/300644

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Re: Webpage Requirements; Big dogs speak UP! new
#746550 (Re: Blackcoog) 10/22/04 02:24 PM

Originally posted by Blackcoog:
I just updated my cardomain page with a short "how-to" on 3L head porting. Feel free to use the link.

Click here and go to page 3




Nice write-up. I think I might try my hand on this set of oval port heads I have just laying around. I'll definitely be using your how-to along with Demon's when I get around to it.

Mark

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#754392 (Re: Y2KSVT) 10/31/04 05:01 PM

I don't want to toot my own horn, but I think I built a decent turbo set-up, although I don't know that I could contribute much more info than has already been covered except maybe advice on a REALLY BUDGET oriented set-up.

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Re: Webpage Requirements; Big dogs speak UP! new
#759455 (Re: warmonger) 11/04/04 09:26 PM

Hosting is now taken care of by me. Warmonger has his account, and when he gets time will be able to upload the files. I've also offered to do some custom PHP coding and/or HTML layout, to make things easier on him. The server has unlimited bandwidth and storage space, and is hosting inside of Rackspace (tons of bandwidth), and I've given him the hosting for free. (Plus, www.rumodded.com is just a cool domain.) :P

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Re: Webpage Requirements; Big dogs speak UP! new
#760936 (Re: EternalOne) 11/06/04 09:31 AM

That's awesome. Thanks a lot. I'll even be able to host chunks of video now and that means I'll have to take the video camera out more often when I get back.



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Where is EternalOne? new
#779458 (Re: EternalOne) 11/29/04 01:12 PM

Originally posted by EternalOne:
Hosting is now taken care of by me. Warmonger has his account, and when he gets time will be able to upload the files. I've also offered to do some custom PHP coding and/or HTML layout, to make things easier on him. The server has unlimited bandwidth and storage space, and is hosting inside of Rackspace (tons of bandwidth), and I've given him the hosting for free. (Plus, www.rumodded.com is just a cool domain.) :P

E1





Well I have the webpage ready to post but I can't seem to log into the FTP site. I am looking for EternalOne so he can help me out. Anyone able to contact him?

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Re: Vac pics for full 3L swap new
#798894 (Re: warmonger) 12/21/04 04:29 AM

I didn't have vac pics when I made my last post in here. I have since taken these for those doing complete swaps.

On car
http://www.fototime.com/EBA0BA981FD7BAD/orig.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/CB780BD77DA833D/orig.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/7BB2D43F9BE867A/orig.jpg

Off car
http://www.fototime.com/A1FF38FFE2BCCDB/orig.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/12FF8A7FCA83EB2/orig.jpg

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Neener neener! So are you Todd! -BN :-)

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Re: Vac pics for full 3L swap new
#811619 (Re: todras) 01/06/05 11:03 PM

Warmonger, Did You Ever Get The Page Hosted ???? Where Is The Eternal One??? Very Interested To See How It Turned Out...Cant Find This Topic In Any Other Thread....

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Re: Vac pics for full 3L swap new
#811689 (Re: Pale Horse) 01/07/05 12:44 AM

This?

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Re: Vac pics for full 3L swap new
#814403 (Re: Pale Horse) 01/10/05 06:55 PM

Originally posted by Pale Horse:
Warmonger, Did You Ever Get The Page Hosted ???? Where Is The Eternal One??? Very Interested To See How It Turned Out...Cant Find This Topic In Any Other Thread....




Yep.

My page

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Re: 3L FAQ thread. Big dogs chime in. Newbies READ!!!! new
#1012805 (Re: bnoon) 07/30/05 07:16 PM

Just so others don't screw up...the thread of the knock sensor on the 2.5 is m12 x 1.5....not 1.75 like it has been posted in older threads.

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Re: 3L FAQ thread. Big dogs chime in. Newbies READ new
#1102234 (Re: bnoon) 11/16/05 05:09 PM

Hey guys, I've been trying to learn about 3.0L swaps, and I'm having a real hard time jumping in. I think an entry FAQ should probably include a list of each type of swap - hybrid, Taurus, Escape, etc., along with details of each. If there is such a resource, I'm sorry, but I missed it - please post a link to it here!

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Re: 3L FAQ thread. Big dogs chime in. Newbies READ new
#1102786 (Re: Auto-X Fil) 11/17/05 01:46 AM

Originally posted by Auto-X Fil:
Hey guys, I've been trying to learn about 3.0L swaps, and I'm having a real hard time jumping in. I think an entry FAQ should probably include a list of each type of swap - hybrid, Taurus, Escape, etc., along with details of each. If there is such a resource, I'm sorry, but I missed it - please post a link to it here!




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Re: 3L FAQ thread. Big dogs chime in. Newbies READ new
#1102890 (Re: csvtjohnga) 11/17/05 03:01 AM

99% of the nfo is here, you just have to search for it. ! thing leads to another, then another, etc. It would be benificial to the site though, if Someone would gather everything up in their own specific thread. But Good luck finding someone to volunteer for that job...

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Re: 3L FAQ thread. Big dogs chime in. Newbies READ new
#1102993 (Re: Auto-X Fil) 11/17/05 05:27 AM

Originally posted by Auto-X Fil:
Hey guys, I've been trying to learn about 3.0L swaps, and I'm having a real hard time jumping in. I think an entry FAQ should probably include a list of each type of swap - hybrid, Taurus, Escape, etc., along with details of each. If there is such a resource, I'm sorry, but I missed it - please post a link to it here!




thats why i posted a thread about a month asking everyone to explain what the different types of 3L jobs are. it was good but a really detailed write up of each job and what is required would be nice. its been real "fun" trying to search and piece this project together. thankfully, Stazi is a real saint and has spent tons of time on the phone and in email with us.

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Re: 3L FAQ thread. Big dogs chime in. Newbies READ new
#1103151 (Re: posthuman63t) 11/17/05 03:13 PM

Originally posted by posthuman63t:
99% of the nfo is here, you just have to search for it. ! thing leads to another, then another, etc.




No, that DOESN'T work, because you end up getting confused by arguments and conflicting statements. There's no clear tutorial *here* for different types of builds.

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Re: 3L FAQ thread. Big dogs chime in. Newbies READ new
#1103155 (Re: Jeb Hoge) 11/17/05 03:16 PM

Originally posted by Jeb Hoge:
Originally posted by posthuman63t:
99% of the nfo is here, you just have to search for it. ! thing leads to another, then another, etc.




No, that DOESN'T work, because you end up getting confused by arguments and conflicting statements. There's no clear tutorial *here* for different types of builds.



It does work, its how I found out the information when I built my engine almost 2 years ago.

the problem with CEG is people want the stuff fed to them. They do not want to make their own decisions in this type of process and don't want to educate themselves on the pros/cons of each type of build.

I would think it would be much easier now than it was two years ago to put this info together.

Regardless if there was a sticky that walked people through each process we'd still have retards who post the question that is answered in the stickied threads....

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Re: 3L FAQ thread. Big dogs chime in. Newbies READ new
#1103172 (Re: svt4stv) 11/17/05 03:27 PM

Hehe. We already did too much work typing it the first time! Now you want us to tidy it all up too?


There are three or four key personal websites on top of these forums here that really tell you everything you need to know.

DemonSVT's got the best how-to on NA stuff for the 3L, as well as good ideas so check his out.
I designed mine more around the "here's whats possible, now you solve the problem" philosophy because I don't believe in telling someone how to do it.
I believe the reader must be inspired to do it, then they will suprise us with their ingenuity and different approaches to the problem.

Demon and I both approached the NA 3L different than most and we both did all of our own design work when we deviated from any accepted practice. We still don't agree on everything and he knows that I'm right.

So it's better not to have it spelled out step by step. You the reader will feel much better and more confident with what you did, learned, and are more likely to keep it afterwards when you put your own thoughts, blood, sweat and tears into it. Without that you don't take ownership in the project and will happily sell it while looking around for your next "challenge".

This is not to say 'be stupid' and not emulate something that is proven either. But do it yourself and solve the problems as they come up. When you see a better way to do something, THAT's when you will get creative and make a new approach. Part of doing that is reading, searching, and asking stimulating questions rather than already answered ones.


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Re: 3L FAQ thread. Big dogs chime in. Newbies READ new
#1103594 (Re: Jeb Hoge) 11/17/05 08:57 PM

Originally posted by Jeb Hoge:
Originally posted by posthuman63t:
99% of the nfo is here, you just have to search for it. ! thing leads to another, then another, etc.




No, that DOESN'T work, because you end up getting confused by arguments and conflicting statements. There's no clear tutorial *here* for different types of builds.




There is no clear tutorial because within 1 specific genre of a 3L build there are dzens of variations you can do. Some people like one way better than the other. There is by far enough information on this site to do any of the 3L builds. And if you gte stuck on something along the way, SEARCH, then ask a question. It's not that difficult. Things can be organized, but specific details about everything is impossible.

Great Post Warmonger

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Re: 3L FAQ thread. Big dogs chime in. Newbies READ new
#1103645 (Re: posthuman63t) 11/17/05 10:15 PM

we need a wiki, not a forum faq that's always filled with irrelevant bickering. There are alot of good faq's here, but there are always some people that just can't keep from posting OT replies.

just my 2cents... and yes, i'm grumpy today

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3.0L Duratec TECH from Engine Builder magazine new
#1123198 (Re: morbid) 12/12/05 05:43 PM

Engine tech

Timing cover tech

Head gasket tech

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Re: 3.0L Duratec TECH from Engine Builder magazine new
#1123238 (Re: weargle) 12/12/05 06:09 PM

Thanks for the repost in a sticky.

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Re: EGR pipe mod new
#1160096 (Re: todras) 02/02/06 05:44 PM

Pic of EGR mod. This is a 5/8 brass fitting. This is an example of what needs to be done to use Weapon R's with the relocated EGR connection on the header. This same fitting can be used to join the 3L ovalport UIM EGR to the 2.5 EGR pipe. No brazing required. Some bending to the piping might be required to be done as well.



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Re: EGR pipe mod new
#1208511 (Re: todras) 04/05/06 04:32 PM

Talking with another CEGer today and realized I failed to mention the 01+ Cougar mount. If you are doing a staight 3L you need this to mount the 3L block to the Contour pass. side mount. It needs to ground in 2 spots. Basically grind until it squeezes between the 2 heads. You have to order the 4 bolts listed in the 3L part number sticky also.

Picture of mount & where to grind.

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Re: 3L FAQ thread. Big dogs chime in. Newbies READ!!!! new
#1208518 (Re: Y2KSVT) 04/05/06 04:35 PM

Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you can get all of your rod/main bearings from Nicholas at DuratecPerformance.com.

Mark

confirmed and added link -BN




Too expensive. You can order tham at Napa for $30 some dollars. At least the rod bearings can be.

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