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Pics of Taurus pan vs. new Escape pan
#611673 - 05/10/04 11:16 PM

Taurus left and Escape right. Obviously.



Escape pan isn't as deep. Comes with gasket and bolts.


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Re: Pics of Taurus pan vs. new Escape pan new
#611894 (Re: todras) 05/11/04 02:59 AM

Since the pan isn't as deep, can you still use the same dipstick?



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Re: Pics of Taurus pan vs. new Escape pan new
#611974 (Re: Derk-xB) 05/11/04 04:03 AM

Originally posted by Derk2000:
Since the pan isn't as deep, can you still use the same dipstick?




He is comparing it to the Taurus pan which does not fit the CDW-27 platform.
The Taurus pan is a completely different design built to fit.... A Taurus.


The Escape uses the exact same pan design that any CDW-27 does. It just has been revised several times since "our" line dead.

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Re: Pics of Taurus pan vs. new Escape pan new
#611981 (Re: DemonSVT) 05/11/04 04:07 AM

Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by Derk2000:
Since the pan isn't as deep, can you still use the same dipstick?




He is comparing it to the Taurus pan which does not fit the CDW-27 platform.
The Taurus pan is a completely different design built to fit.... A Taurus.


The Escape uses the exact same pan design that any CDW-27 does. It just has been revised several times since "our" line dead.




So you're saying the dipstick fits?

This seems like a better protective bolt on than the DMD... Hmmmm.....

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Re: Pics of Taurus pan vs. new Escape pan new
#611987 (Re: Derk-xB) 05/11/04 04:10 AM

Originally posted by Derk2000:
This seems like a better protective bolt on than the DMD... Hmmmm.....



Light years better.

Running 6 qts of oil is better.

Checking your oil often is better.


Shall we throw in full 3 liter even...

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Re: Pics of Taurus pan vs. new Escape pan new
#612064 (Re: DemonSVT) 05/11/04 05:39 AM

Does anyone have pictures of a modded one to fit a manual trans?

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Re: Pics of Taurus pan vs. new Escape pan new
#612084 (Re: Livinsvt) 05/11/04 06:31 AM

Originally posted by livinsvt:
Does anyone have pictures of a modded one to fit a manual trans?




No mods are necessary to make it fit. I kept the stock dipstick and just noted where 6 qts is...

People have said that you should upgrade the windage tray too, although the new pan does work with the stocker.

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Re: Pics of Taurus pan vs. new Escape pan new
#612146 (Re: DemonSVT) 05/11/04 12:12 PM

Originally posted by DemonSVT:

He is comparing it to the Taurus pan which does not fit the CDW-27 platform.





That's news to me. I've seen it installed on 3L Tours.

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Re: Pics of Taurus pan vs. new Escape pan new
#612232 (Re: vudusvt) 05/11/04 02:16 PM

Originally posted by vudusvt:
Originally posted by livinsvt:
Does anyone have pictures of a modded one to fit a manual trans?




No mods are necessary to make it fit. I kept the stock dipstick and just noted where 6 qts is...

People have said that you should upgrade the windage tray too, although the new pan does work with the stocker.





Realy? Two people that have done 3.0 conversions told me that it has to be slightly modified, weld in a hole and make another? Am I confusing with something else?

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Re: Pics of Taurus pan vs. new Escape pan new
#612437 (Re: Livinsvt) 05/11/04 06:27 PM

We're talking Escape pan, right? If so, yup. It bolted up to my 2.5 w/stock windage tray just fine- of course, when I saw the windage tray was updated, I changed it out, too (also a straight bolt-in). On the 3L, there should be no difference- especially if you do the windage tray, too.

I *think* I remember the posts you're referring to. IIRC, that was the YZxxxxxx oil pan. The one I have (and pictured above) is a more recent update (note the built-in gasket)- maybe one of the revisions was to make sure it fit all duratecs w/out modification.

Does anyone have a pic of the YZ oil pan for comparo?

Of course I could be just talking out of my arse as I am often wrong on these things....

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