KAOS_3.0
Hard-core CEG'er
OK, so I picked up this little laser red 99 for 800 bucks. the owner claimed it had a knock in the engine so I just went and snagged it thinking it would be an easy home for my full 3.0 from my contour.
after I get it home, the plot thickens. I put a battery in it and hooked it to a charger and put gas in it and.... cranks indefinitely and sometimes will sort of stumble over but will not start. the kids dad claimed it would sort of run for a while but it seems not to at all. upon further questioning the kid admitted that somebody swapped the PCM. I was thinking pats so I shoved my contour pcm in but it gives a pats condition even with the contour key held against the coug key.
does the transponder need to be aligned in a certain way with the ignition? I had the transponder out of the contour key last night out of curiosity, it's a glass capsule with a coil on one end and a little circuit board on the other. I might have put it back in reversed.
the Xcal tells me P1602 which is a pats problem, as well as p1601 "ecm serial com port error" with my tuned computer in the 99.
the cougars PCM thew a code P0320 yesterday while I was trying to crank it, which is "engine speed input circuit malfunction" which for some reason makes me think of the trigger wheel, but the engine in this car has basically never been touched. no signs of people messing with it. the intake accordion was still sealed to the TB like it has never been apart.
the computer in the cougar does indeed have junkyard writting all over it and states "99 cougar 2.5" the serial is ssd3 or something like that, the Xcal tells me the strategy for it is KHAJCB9.
my already tuned PCM is strategy KHAI5AY, anybody know anything about PCM pin out changes between strategies?
this car is return style just like my 98 contour, so I'm hoping I should be able to just drop in my engine/harness/PCM and it should run, worst case scenario, I'd have to repin the connector at the bulk head, which I should be able to find a wiring diagram to help with, right? theres nothing firewall/dash side in the wiring harness that could cause the car not to start right?
my head is kind of all over the place right now so sorry if I'm not being to linear with my thought process right now.
I'm just trying to figure out if this car is even going to work for me, because if not, I'm pretty skrewed being that I already spent that money on it and there wont be enough left from my check to buy another one. I do have a good bit of cash on me that I can spend getting it going though, which is nice...
I just feel like I'd like to see it actually run a little before I start tearing the two of them apart only to find I have another issue after the swap. right now I have two cars that wont start and that bothers me quite a bit...
please feel free to go on any crazy limbs with your suggestions
thanks
-Paul
after I get it home, the plot thickens. I put a battery in it and hooked it to a charger and put gas in it and.... cranks indefinitely and sometimes will sort of stumble over but will not start. the kids dad claimed it would sort of run for a while but it seems not to at all. upon further questioning the kid admitted that somebody swapped the PCM. I was thinking pats so I shoved my contour pcm in but it gives a pats condition even with the contour key held against the coug key.
does the transponder need to be aligned in a certain way with the ignition? I had the transponder out of the contour key last night out of curiosity, it's a glass capsule with a coil on one end and a little circuit board on the other. I might have put it back in reversed.
the Xcal tells me P1602 which is a pats problem, as well as p1601 "ecm serial com port error" with my tuned computer in the 99.
the cougars PCM thew a code P0320 yesterday while I was trying to crank it, which is "engine speed input circuit malfunction" which for some reason makes me think of the trigger wheel, but the engine in this car has basically never been touched. no signs of people messing with it. the intake accordion was still sealed to the TB like it has never been apart.
the computer in the cougar does indeed have junkyard writting all over it and states "99 cougar 2.5" the serial is ssd3 or something like that, the Xcal tells me the strategy for it is KHAJCB9.
my already tuned PCM is strategy KHAI5AY, anybody know anything about PCM pin out changes between strategies?
this car is return style just like my 98 contour, so I'm hoping I should be able to just drop in my engine/harness/PCM and it should run, worst case scenario, I'd have to repin the connector at the bulk head, which I should be able to find a wiring diagram to help with, right? theres nothing firewall/dash side in the wiring harness that could cause the car not to start right?
my head is kind of all over the place right now so sorry if I'm not being to linear with my thought process right now.
I'm just trying to figure out if this car is even going to work for me, because if not, I'm pretty skrewed being that I already spent that money on it and there wont be enough left from my check to buy another one. I do have a good bit of cash on me that I can spend getting it going though, which is nice...
I just feel like I'd like to see it actually run a little before I start tearing the two of them apart only to find I have another issue after the swap. right now I have two cars that wont start and that bothers me quite a bit...
please feel free to go on any crazy limbs with your suggestions
thanks
-Paul