rice burner?? wtf

[Tourige]

The reason people buy mustangs: Decently "quick" stock, They actually drive the proper wheels, There is a HUGE aftermarket out there for them. Most can get into the 12's easily (How many contours are in the 12's?) etc.

They are just built properly for the people who buy them. And to your "I told them that they should race my buddy who owns a 720hp supra."

That 720hp supra probably runs 12's because supras are only good from a roll. I know plenty of 600+whp Cobras that would spank that supra in the 1/4.. Comparing crap like this is stupid because neither of us drive these cars anyways.

 

[Frosty]

It all depends on who the owner is. I know people who have Mustangs or have owned them and they give me crap about my Contours, but it's all in fun. Some people grew up with the "muscle cars" and all they know is straightline power where nowdays cars are more about a balanced driving experience (power with handling).

 

[Y2KSVT]

That 720hp supra probably runs 12's because supras are only good from a roll.

Where'd you get that from, a t-shirt? Pleanty of 9 and 10 second Supras running around with 700HP. Hell, there's a local guy to me that runs a 10.01 with stock suspension. Don't believe everything you hear on the internet.

Mark

 

[m4gician]

I try my best to not talk much to people about cars especially those that are die hard domestic no replacement for displacement types.

so there are a quite of bit of car heads at my job, everything from trucks with mudd tires to imports,euro and domestic muscle. so the truck guys dont usually say much but leave it up the muscle heads to talk garbage. one supervisor talksabout his bone stock mustang beating up on motorcycles like hayabusa and so on. and everything that wasnt muscle was considered a rice burner. being that I love alltypes of cars and have the knowledge that just because you have something that isfast dont mean that there isnt something quicker out there.

my pointt to all of this is why do it seem like its always the camaro,mustang guys that feellike they need to look down on the tuner community. been around individuals that have supper cars and they dont even speak that way. about the tuner community.

maybe it's the demographic that buys mustangs, and cameros. The old fashioned country folk, or guys who like heavy rock music, or something like that if you prefer to stereotype. Apparently the guys you work around like to discriminate, not about cars, but about people as well. I'll bet you've heard a lot of derogatory comments from these same guys, and it'd be no surprise IMHO.

 

[svt4stv]

i love it when someone says, "well i know a guy who has......"

reminds me of a few weeks ago when some clown in a modded 350z pulls up next to me in my cobra and starts talking sht from nowhere. :shrug:
i said, "well let's go then, let's run them and see how your 350 does"
he says to me, "i have a friend with a 700hp turbo RX7 that'll smoke your POS! race for pinks this sunday, blah blah blah"
i said, "what, you cant run your little 350 right now??"
he then turned the corner and tried to show me his power by getting almost sideways, and almost hitting a car in the left turn lane :laugh:

as for mustang tools, there are plenty of them out there. just the other day i was driving my girl's bone stock 98 GT auto to a friends to do some maintenance on it. some guy in an 04 GT, lowered on stocks, pulls up next to me and starts revving, even though he's in the turn lane. his license plate read "QUITH8N"
if only i had my cobra with me......or my truck, theyd both smoke him :crazy:

but those guys are tools for talking like that anyways. i guess theyd have to consider an M6 a "muscle car" because it would likely smoke every one of their cars. it reminds me of my buddy who owns a bunch of Chevy muscle. he's said more than a few times, arent you glad you bought a real car? (referring to me selling my csvt).

 

[Dremersvision4]

what I often find amusing about these guys is that they alwaystalk crap about the tuner scene.I have yet to hear them talk garbage about modded euros like amg v12 benz or a ruf porche. maybe its because there are plenty of us compared to the pricey euro tuners.

 

[98SVTC]

People need thicker skin. I'm the only Contour guy in my SVTOA chapter. My car is the only Contour to show up at our annual car shows. You SoCal guys are missing out. I get first in class by default. I'm sure there are better Contours than mine in this area. I endure the "it's only a Contour" ribbing from all the Lightning and Cobra guys. No biggie. I like my car and know it's no match for those others nor would I entertain any illusions that it was. It does the job it was intended to do and that's okay with me. Otherwise I never would have bought it. It would be stupid for me to seriously argue with my club mates over this now just as I would have been stupid to argue that my 235 HP 273 ci Barracuda was any match for a similarly appointed Mustang, Firebird or Camaro back in the 60's. The one thing I could argue back then though was exclusivity! And that goes for the Contour today as well.
Karl

 

[morbid]

Big surprise. You obviously haven't hung out with anyone with anything faster than an AT Mustang V6. And for someone trying to prove a point about someone knowing anything about cars, I would assume you'd know that a Mustang doesn't have an ATX!! Most "Mustang guys" are the first ones to work on their own cars. They aren't Ferrari's we're talking about, where the owners have more money than sense! Congratulations though, everyone is now dumber for having read both of your posts. :blackeye:

Mark

Ok now dumber guy, go trade your Contour for a mustang! The "Mustang guys" I encounter are exactly what I described, maybe 1 out of 50 (I'm talking everywhere.. street, strip, car function) know their stuff. They think their platform is THE best and everyone else who likes speed should get one. Mustangs are everywhere... like cockroaches! And the vast majority of them are slow (for a musclecar).. and their owners don't know any better.

I used to own a mustang... I've driven other mustangs, and all they are are american musclecar crap and can't handle at all. You can throw money at it to help it handle a little better.. but it wasn't really meant for cornering, was it?

Here's an example: I was using a lift at my brothers shop. One of the employees there has a Mustang with Steeda parts (yup, he put them on himself... he's a "Mustang guy"), and saw me working on my Contour. He said I should stop waisting my time and money and buy a mustang. I laughed at him until he left. This guy should not be installing his own mods, let alone repairing others cars... yet he would be classified as a "Mustang guy". Despite having headers and some other stuff... his car is still slow.

If a mustang was given to me, I would sell it right away (I'd keep a Cobra for a few months though). Now I obviously have grown to hate mustangs.... I'm sure Ford's favoritism of the mustang might have something to do with it.

 

[getsum111]

I personally couldn't hate a type of car because of the "type of people" that drive it. I regularly take my CSVT to cruises, and see classsics, musclecars, imports, bikes and trucks all together. Now I've known many jerks that drive each type of car, INCLUDING contours. But I've also known more people that were cool that drove each type. I love cars, and enjoy talking to anyone who feels the same. The only type of person I try to avoid is the type that talks out his . But that has nothing to do with the type of car he/she drives. They will usually be a jerk no matter what they drive.

 

[Kremithefrog]

Yeah I've met really cool mustang owners (usually with the fast ones) and uncool ones.
And mustangs can handle very well if you want them too. A properly setup mustang will take a modded contour on a road course.
And it's hard to call any car slow when your car only runs 15s stock.

Fact is mustangs are hard to beat for modding. Yes there are lots of them, but that's part of why it's cheap to make them fast.

 

[enduro]

I think the problem people have with "riceburners" where I live live has more to do the kids driving them than the cars themselves. They put a 4" fart can on a Civic, Cavalier, Jetta etc and ultras low profile tires and think they are driving a tuner car. And to drown out the noise they crank thier stereos so you can hear them from a mile away.

We cant really carry handguns in Canada so really loud subwoofers are the penis substitute.

 

[johnny hennessy]

I think the problem people have with "riceburners" where I live live has more to do the kids driving them than the cars themselves. They put a 4" fart can on a Civic, Cavalier, Jetta etc and ultras low profile tires and think they are driving a tuner car. And to drown out the noise they crank thier stereos so you can hear them from a mile away.

We cant really carry handguns in Canada so really loud subwoofers are the penis substitute.

That is the exact point, which is the reason why people hate those types of cars. I too get like that, due to the fact that just about every import around my area has a cold air intake and a cat back exhaust, and they think that their car is the shiznit.

I know of a few mustang and camaro guys, and like what was said before there are some good and some bad. I think it is more of the type of person that buys the cars no matter what the reason that is the problem. The ones like my friend bought a mustang 5.0 because bang for your buck it was the best choice, he had a CSVT liked it, but for straight line he knew it reached it's potential.

It's al based on what the person wants application wise, and how much they have to spend.

 

[Dremersvision4]

well that would make more sense but my perception of the car culture has changed so much over the years. yea you use to see a lot of dropped civics with a muffler that was bigger thenthe car itself. not anymore. there are a lot of street terrors in the little town I live in. I remember in the summer I had my cousins 400hp eagle talon and it destroyed this guys mustang by miles and I slowed down to give him a thumbs up and he just sped off,evan ran the red light. wonder if he thought that it would be a land slide victory for him or because he lost by so much. my point is that people need to stop assuming because a car looks a certain or the engine is smaller dont mean that its not packing a punch.

 

[johnny hennessy]

yeah, I think there will always be that mentality that I am faster than you because I am supposed to be, but there are alot of things that can be done to lower displacment cars. The good ones seem to be few and far between, so when they do go up against a heavily modded car they are amazed that they can't hang. I get that every now and again, but I also get those guys that look at the car and are shocked that it kept up. I guess it all boils down to the driver, and whether or not he knows anything about other cars or not, or if he even cares.

 

[elraido]

well that would make more sense but my perception of the car culture has changed so much over the years. yea you use to see a lot of dropped civics with a muffler that was bigger thenthe car itself. not anymore. there are a lot of street terrors in the little town I live in. I remember in the summer I had my cousins 400hp eagle talon and it destroyed this guys mustang by miles and I slowed down to give him a thumbs up and he just sped off,evan ran the red light. wonder if he thought that it would be a land slide victory for him or because he lost by so much. my point is that people need to stop assuming because a car looks a certain or the engine is smaller dont mean that its not packing a punch.

First and foremost, after owning a DSM, is that you NEVER underestimate them (unless they only have a stock single tipped muffler---90 hp 1.8 monster under the hood). That guy who he ran against was an idiot. I always check out to see if they are turboed or not when I drive by them, and see if they put a fmi on it. They are just as cheap and easy to mod as a stang. They are just a money pit for repairs though. Not bad out of a 2.0 4 banger.

 

[Dremersvision4]

u r not lying about that bro.the motor in that car has been rebuilt 2times in the past 7months the first time was because whenmy cousing got it it was not tuned he blew the motor racing a 350z.and they become money pits once you go into engine mods

 

[GS474]

I to used to be an ******* i used to think all tuners=crap but that was until a freind of mine took me for a drive in a 9 second evo now i have respect for almost any thing thats reliable and has power exept for the bling bling suv's i still hate all suv's with the eception of the escape/tribute

 

[SVTeve]

Ok now dumber guy, go trade your Contour for a mustang! The "Mustang guys" I encounter are exactly what I described, maybe 1 out of 50 (I'm talking everywhere.. street, strip, car function) know their stuff. They think their platform is THE best and everyone else who likes speed should get one. Mustangs are everywhere... like cockroaches! And the vast majority of them are slow (for a musclecar).. and their owners don't know any better.

I used to own a mustang... I've driven other mustangs, and all they are are american musclecar crap and can't handle at all. You can throw money at it to help it handle a little better.. but it wasn't really meant for cornering, was it?

Here's an example: I was using a lift at my brothers shop. One of the employees there has a Mustang with Steeda parts (yup, he put them on himself... he's a "Mustang guy"), and saw me working on my Contour. He said I should stop waisting my time and money and buy a mustang. I laughed at him until he left. This guy should not be installing his own mods, let alone repairing others cars... yet he would be classified as a "Mustang guy". Despite having headers and some other stuff... his car is still slow.

If a mustang was given to me, I would sell it right away (I'd keep a Cobra for a few months though). Now I obviously have grown to hate mustangs.... I'm sure Ford's favoritism of the mustang might have something to do with it.

Considering the mustang rides, corners, drives, has more aftermarketability then all the other musclecar manufacturers, your statement is really bland, slow and incompetent. I might be a little bias, after all I think anything with a blue oval is 100 times better then anything else on the planet. However, if you go drive a camaro SS, A Mustang GT, a charger, or what have you the mustangs, always, always ride and drive better. If you put them all on a track the mustang will win. As for my experience with "mustang guys" when I was peddling around in my ford escort on guam, they actually invited me to go to their meets since I was the only one out there trying to make an escort fast, now I bought an SVT Contour, and the escort, and focus guys here want to hang out, but I am looking to find some SVT stang guys to hang out with, because really there is nothing funner then sittin back laughing at the little rice paddy tuners that throw a muffler on a stock exhaust pipe and classify themselves as a "racer" at least with all the mustang guys I have ever known, there cars would probably destroy anything you would come across on the street....I mean how many civics run in the 12s??? I even had a guy on guam tell me he had a 13.5 second civic hatch....every weekend at the track he constantly ran 14.5 or 14.6...respectable..but I wanted to see the 13.5 ...he later told me his "naws" wasnt spraying correctly. Probably because he is an incompetent moron.

 

[PurpleMystique]

Ok now dumber guy, go trade your Contour for a mustang! The "Mustang guys" I encounter are exactly what I described, maybe 1 out of 50 (I'm talking everywhere.. street, strip, car function) know their stuff. They think their platform is THE best and everyone else who likes speed should get one. Mustangs are everywhere... like cockroaches! And the vast majority of them are slow (for a musclecar).. and their owners don't know any better.

I used to own a mustang... I've driven other mustangs, and all they are are american musclecar crap and can't handle at all. You can throw money at it to help it handle a little better.. but it wasn't really meant for cornering, was it?

Here's an example: I was using a lift at my brothers shop. One of the employees there has a Mustang with Steeda parts (yup, he put them on himself... he's a "Mustang guy"), and saw me working on my Contour. He said I should stop waisting my time and money and buy a mustang. I laughed at him until he left. This guy should not be installing his own mods, let alone repairing others cars... yet he would be classified as a "Mustang guy". Despite having headers and some other stuff... his car is still slow.

If a mustang was given to me, I would sell it right away (I'd keep a Cobra for a few months though). Now I obviously have grown to hate mustangs.... I'm sure Ford's favoritism of the mustang might have something to do with it.

I hope you realize that you're one of the incompetent morons giving Contours a bad name. Like someone said, how can you call their car slow when yours runs 15s stock.
And why won't you stop making up numbers? 1 in 50? You have no clue, you're just a biased moron spewing his crap everywhere.
You say that you hate it when Mustang/Camaro guys rag on Contours/tuners in general, then what do you do? Rag on Mustangs/Camaros, making you even worse than the people you hate, because at least they're not being hypocritical. Grow up.

 

[Kremithefrog]

I mean how many civics run in the 12s???

A lot more than you think. Friend of mine has a all motor crx that will run atleast a high 12 on good tires (DRs or slicks). Bunch of friends have turbo'd,supercharged, or swapped civics that will run 12s or better. One buddy has the biggest pos looking 91 hatch that ran a 7.2 in the 1/8 and has a LOT more in it. I'm talking as it sits (when tranny is fixed) it will run in the low 11s. With a better wastegate, manifold, injectors, and tuning it will be well into the 10s and from there he'll only go faster possibly spraying it. The car is street driven occasionally and has the required amount of interior in it to be legal in a certain national drag racing class.