I posted my build on the Southeast Board and have gotten quite the reaction as to which ways I could go or improve my performance for the money.
People seemed to have their different opinions, but I keep seeing two particular characters pop up more than others--3 and L. Not wanting to scrap my build idea and start from square one, I initially shot down any thoughts of the swap.
There must be a reason everyone's screaming 3L at the top of their lungs. The more I thought about it, the more I realized that everyone is right--For the money, a 3L swap is the best performance upgrade and makes the most sense. My build made sense, but not as a one-part-at-a-time upgrade.
So instead of shooting the swap down again, I figured I'd do the research and found out that the more I thought I knew and the more I read, the more questions I had.
Using the search function, I ended up confusing myself more than answering any real questions. I spent hours in a futile attempt to wade through the flaming seas trying to find any real answer to my question.
My patience for the search function exhausted, I decided for the better good, I'd start reading from the beginning of the 3L Duratec board. 27 pages--24 (estimated) of which containing half answered and repeated questions and unreported results. Honestly, I didn't get through but maybe 15 pages before completely giving up.
There simply wasn't enough information specific to my intended build. It just seems that the information is so split up between the different boards and so much of the work done to the cars has been little but an 'afterthought' mod--instead of a fully planned build--that the process just has not been properly documented.
So I pose this series of questions to the people who know these cars and engines best:
What year VIN S Sable or Taurus motor (02-05)?
Using this particular motor: what setup provides best power 3L in a boosted application (NPG IC'd Turbo) without sacrificing [any more] engine life (such as running higher compression). Preferrably with high end power over low to mid end to make it drivable in everyday situations.
1 - Port matched heads with SVT LIM or 3L LIM?
2 - SVT 2.5L or 2004 Taurus/Sable 3L cams?
3 - 2.5L Heads or 3L Heads? Answered by BrApple - 3L Heads to keep compression lower.
4 - Which UIM? 2.5L to retain IMRC or 3L and delete IMRC? Which year 3L?
5 - Would you delete the EGR?
I would really like to hear from people who drive 3.0L, boosted 3L (Turbo'd or SC'd), and anyone who has done a 3L swap. I want to make sure I spend my money to do it properly instead of twice. If required I'd rather have a complicated pre-build and have something to show for it then a simple drop-in job and have my car gimping along.
People seemed to have their different opinions, but I keep seeing two particular characters pop up more than others--3 and L. Not wanting to scrap my build idea and start from square one, I initially shot down any thoughts of the swap.
There must be a reason everyone's screaming 3L at the top of their lungs. The more I thought about it, the more I realized that everyone is right--For the money, a 3L swap is the best performance upgrade and makes the most sense. My build made sense, but not as a one-part-at-a-time upgrade.
So instead of shooting the swap down again, I figured I'd do the research and found out that the more I thought I knew and the more I read, the more questions I had.
Using the search function, I ended up confusing myself more than answering any real questions. I spent hours in a futile attempt to wade through the flaming seas trying to find any real answer to my question.
My patience for the search function exhausted, I decided for the better good, I'd start reading from the beginning of the 3L Duratec board. 27 pages--24 (estimated) of which containing half answered and repeated questions and unreported results. Honestly, I didn't get through but maybe 15 pages before completely giving up.
There simply wasn't enough information specific to my intended build. It just seems that the information is so split up between the different boards and so much of the work done to the cars has been little but an 'afterthought' mod--instead of a fully planned build--that the process just has not been properly documented.
So I pose this series of questions to the people who know these cars and engines best:
What year VIN S Sable or Taurus motor (02-05)?
Using this particular motor: what setup provides best power 3L in a boosted application (NPG IC'd Turbo) without sacrificing [any more] engine life (such as running higher compression). Preferrably with high end power over low to mid end to make it drivable in everyday situations.
1 - Port matched heads with SVT LIM or 3L LIM?
2 - SVT 2.5L or 2004 Taurus/Sable 3L cams?
3 - 2.5L Heads or 3L Heads? Answered by BrApple - 3L Heads to keep compression lower.
4 - Which UIM? 2.5L to retain IMRC or 3L and delete IMRC? Which year 3L?
5 - Would you delete the EGR?
I would really like to hear from people who drive 3.0L, boosted 3L (Turbo'd or SC'd), and anyone who has done a 3L swap. I want to make sure I spend my money to do it properly instead of twice. If required I'd rather have a complicated pre-build and have something to show for it then a simple drop-in job and have my car gimping along.
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