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bigMoneyRacing
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posted July 13, 2002 08:32 PM      Profile for bigMoneyRacing   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Cole, look forward to seeing you there with the Altima--maybe a ride????

As far as I know S\V/T Kris will be there too, he's staying the night here and we'll probably head out around 9:00-9:30.

Could be some scattered showers, now that I have a set of dedicated KDW's I hope it rains like heck!

EDIT: Apologies for the public PM, but I know how you are about checking them [Wink]

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Matthew W. Campbell--bigMoney Racing
--1999 SVT #220 "NT4UA" /O.Z. Crono Evo's//Rear Deck Sub/--1972 Chevrolet C/10 Custom Deluxe--1980 Camaro in fewer pieces--
"If I had invested...in IBM or something like that, I would certainly have been wealthy within a decade. Instead, I bought a Porsche...and got a life" Leon Mandel

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SVTCole
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posted July 14, 2002 12:06 AM      Profile for SVTCole     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Matt, maybe we can swap cars for one run....just remember, I have no ABS. No spins or flat-spotting allowed! I still think the Contour is a faster auto-X car! The SVT handles better but the Altima accelerates faster so a lot depends on the type of course...fast vs. curvy. I do have my Superleggeras on the car so I won't run G stock..STX like I did in Tallahassee.

I'm trying to convince my daughter to come run her car but she is surprisingly reluctant to do the bonding thing with Dad?!? I think it has more to do with a new boyfriend. grrrr. See ya'll manana.

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bigMoneyRacing
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posted July 14, 2002 12:45 AM      Profile for bigMoneyRacing   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
quote:
Originally posted by SVTCole:
so a lot depends on the type of course...fast vs. curvy.

No more course layouts from you!!!

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Matthew W. Campbell--bigMoney Racing
--1999 SVT #220 "NT4UA" /O.Z. Crono Evo's//Rear Deck Sub/--1972 Chevrolet C/10 Custom Deluxe--1980 Camaro in fewer pieces--
"If I had invested...in IBM or something like that, I would certainly have been wealthy within a decade. Instead, I bought a Porsche...and got a life" Leon Mandel

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bigMoneyRacing
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posted July 14, 2002 10:17 PM      Profile for bigMoneyRacing   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Cole entrusted me with the magic time sheet to put results up on the web. CEGr's in bold

Honda S2000 (Ian) 48.084 FTD
Honda S2000 (Brian) 48.614
Honda Civic FSP ('01 Natl Champ 51.068
Honda S2000[a] (Spencer) 51.488
Audi A6 (SM) 51.558
Nissan Altima (STX) SVT Cole 51.581
Mazda Miata (SM2) 52.029
SVT Contour (GS) bigMoneyRacing 52.622
Honda CRX 53.162
Mazda Miata (SM2) 53.290
Mitsu Galant VR4 (SM) 53.853
Honda Civic Si (STS) 54.611
Ford Contour SE S\V/T Kris 54.805
Dodge Neon (STS) 55.171
Honda CRX 55.272
Ford Focus (HS, auto) 55.604
Honda Prelude 56.694
Nissan Sentra GXE (STS) 56.837
Acura Integra (STS) 58.655
Mitsu Eclipse GS (HS) 59.512
Honda Civic Del Sol 59.022
Honda Civic Del Sol 61.095

It was quite the day. S\V/T Kris nipped a cone on his second run and in the process of heading back to get it (we shag our own cones in Wiregrass Region) he crushed the timing light! Oh well, I don't THINK they'll stick him with the bill!

I had a chance to drive Cole's Altima on one of the runways after the event. One word summs up that car, smooooth. The engine is sooo smoooth, so much more than the Contour. It also accelerates faster, both from a stop and in the middle of a gear. Handling probably isn't as crisp as the SVT Contour, but with suspension tweaks it could be a great 4-door-corner-carver too. The power is just always there though and so smooth, I can definitely see the attraction.

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Matthew W. Campbell--bigMoney Racing
--1999 SVT #220 "NT4UA" /O.Z. Crono Evo's//Rear Deck Sub/--1972 Chevrolet C/10 Custom Deluxe--1980 Camaro in fewer pieces--
"If I had invested...in IBM or something like that, I would certainly have been wealthy within a decade. Instead, I bought a Porsche...and got a life" Leon Mandel

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SVTCole
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posted July 14, 2002 10:49 PM      Profile for SVTCole     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Well done, Matt. I like the bold treatment and the fastest to slowest time order. We were all kind of freaked out when this fully decalled Honda Civic shows up on a trailer and on the back window it says "2001 Solo II FSP National Champion" We were even more freaked when he violently spun out repeatedly on his first two runs. Turned out his rear Hoosiers were totally gone and he had to finish the event on stock street wheels/tires. That explains the time. Great guys. Neat looking car.

These times also do not show that prior to my last run, Matt had posted TWO times within one tenth of my best and possibly a third that was lost to a run that was not timed. I dropped a full second on my final run as my new Kumhos finally got rounded off on the edge. He was experimenting with left foot braking and I think he is getting the hang of it. His times are definitely improving and if he had attended SZ, I remain convinced he would have had the second fastest overall time. Go Alabama! If you are autocrossing a Contour and are not left-foot braking, you are LOSING TIME.

Thanks Matt and Kris for coming down. Where's our new timer Kris???? [Razz] We hate timing by hand....except when it makes me faster!

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63 TVR (1K in 74), 75 TR-7 (paid cash new), 79 RX-7 (zoom,zoom), 81 RX-7GSL (autobahn-driven),82 Mustang GT (autobahn-driven), 85 Mustang GT (SE Division F Stock Solo II Champ), 86 MR-2 (3rd SE Division D Stock), 88 Civic DX (had 1st born and still owned MR2) 92 Sentra SE-R (all go and no show), 98 EO SVT Contour (FTD SZ 2002). 02 Altima 3.5SE 5 spd!!!

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bigMoneyRacing
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posted July 15, 2002 01:12 PM      Profile for bigMoneyRacing   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
I also forgot to mention the Mitsu Eclipse Fast and the Furious wannabe. All so and no go, of course [Mad] . It was so all show that the carbon fibre wannabe hood was simply a steel one painted black!! WHAT A LOSER!!!!

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Matthew W. Campbell--bigMoney Racing
--1999 SVT #220 "NT4UA" /O.Z. Crono Evo's//Rear Deck Sub/--1972 Chevrolet C/10 Custom Deluxe--1980 Camaro in fewer pieces--
"If I had invested...in IBM or something like that, I would certainly have been wealthy within a decade. Instead, I bought a Porsche...and got a life" Leon Mandel

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posted July 15, 2002 10:50 PM      Profile for SVTCole     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
My personal favorite was how the national champs Honda rear hatch kept coming open and propping open. If I wasn't sure the guy must know it would not work at lower speed I would swear he had it rigged to do that on purpose to act as a spoiler. Those things must have one heck of a pneumatic strut because once it opened up, it stayed up, even at 40 mph. [Big Grin]
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posted July 18, 2002 09:50 AM      Profile for SVTCole     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
They finally posted the Dixie Region results from June 30th: http://www.dixiescca.com/2002results/jul2002.htm

I was kind of bummed to get beat by the STS Maximas even though they were driven by the number 1 and 2 STS drivers of the region and they had a rear sway bar, strut bars, Tokico adjustable and Falken Azenis.

I also got hosed by the G Stock VW Golf GTI 1.8 turbo on Victoracers. We were dead even until his last run and he improved half a second! Of course I did the same to Matt on 7/14. Still don't know where that extra second came from.

The Ian and Brian that ran S2000s at Tallahassee also came up to our 7/14 Ozark event to slam us again. They are both excellent drivers for young guys. I barely finished in the top 1/3 in PAX with the Altima because the STX index is really fast. I'm probably going to stay stock because you will note the G Stock and STS cars have nearly identical PAX indexes and both finished in the top 8 in PAX out of 45 cars. My time was almost dead even with theirs.

They're all a great group of guys...I just hate to lose. Won't be able to go back to Dixie until I have Azenis or Victoracers.

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posted July 18, 2002 01:53 PM      Profile for bigMoneyRacing   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Using your time in Tallahasse and our times from last weekend that probably would have put me in the 30.0xx bracket. That would have been 3rd out of 4 cars in GS behind the two GTI's--OUCH! Both of those had Victoracers surely! Guess I might have to get some better rubber if I don't find a real toy soon.

I got a few pics I'll try to post this evening.

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Matthew W. Campbell--bigMoney Racing
--1999 SVT #220 "NT4UA" /O.Z. Crono Evo's//Rear Deck Sub/--1972 Chevrolet C/10 Custom Deluxe--1980 Camaro in fewer pieces--
"If I had invested...in IBM or something like that, I would certainly have been wealthy within a decade. Instead, I bought a Porsche...and got a life" Leon Mandel

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posted July 18, 2002 04:20 PM      Profile for 4mula1     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
When and where is everyone meeting next?

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posted July 18, 2002 09:35 PM      Profile for bigMoneyRacing   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
2nd Saturday of each month; Wiregrass Region SCCA. Just off US 231 in Ozark, do a search to get some directions or PM me.

Here are the pics of Cole and his new Altima with 17" Superleggera's with Ecsta 712's





And S\V/T Kris in his '96 SE



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Matthew W. Campbell--bigMoney Racing
--1999 SVT #220 "NT4UA" /O.Z. Crono Evo's//Rear Deck Sub/--1972 Chevrolet C/10 Custom Deluxe--1980 Camaro in fewer pieces--
"If I had invested...in IBM or something like that, I would certainly have been wealthy within a decade. Instead, I bought a Porsche...and got a life" Leon Mandel

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posted July 18, 2002 09:43 PM      Profile for bigMoneyRacing   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Here is an Eclipse showing a LOT of weight transfer to have had suspension mods [Eek!]


By the looks of that driving position maybe he's just out for a Sunday drive! [Wink]

Note to novice: Resting the elbow on the window sill is not an effective method of grasping the steering wheel. [Big Grin]

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Matthew W. Campbell--bigMoney Racing
--1999 SVT #220 "NT4UA" /O.Z. Crono Evo's//Rear Deck Sub/--1972 Chevrolet C/10 Custom Deluxe--1980 Camaro in fewer pieces--
"If I had invested...in IBM or something like that, I would certainly have been wealthy within a decade. Instead, I bought a Porsche...and got a life" Leon Mandel

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posted July 18, 2002 11:24 PM      Profile for SVTCole     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Thanks for posting the pictures, Matt! See the Altima does not lean excessively! Although you guys think YOU need an LSD. Try 246 ft/lbs.

Actually, Matt, you would have easily finished 2nd out of 4 G Stock cars. The winner has Victoracers and is probably untouchable...good driver working with a so so car, none are nationally competitive that I know of. The other guy is Gulf Coast (Pensacola) region's best G Stock guy but he is on RE701s(?) and has a VR6 with even more weight up front...I think he said an extra 100+ lbs on the nose! Anyway he was 2 seconds back from us at both events.

Thanks for answering 4mula1's question...I saw it at work, but never post from there. Prattville's right around the corner...in Alabama terms, 95 miles.

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posted July 19, 2002 01:24 PM      Profile for 4mula1     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
Thanks. I have it on the calendar now. It's only about an 1 1/2 drive. I look forward to meeting everyone.

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posted July 19, 2002 04:10 PM      Profile for SVTSTS     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post
SVTCole,
From the pictures it looks like your car could use some more negative camber on both ends of the car. Does the car understeer at the limit? If it does, you might try a bigger front bar to help this. I know it goes against conventional wisdom, but it works on some cars by stopping body roll and keeping the tire from going into positive camber, as it appears your car does from the picture. A bigger front bar helped my Protege stick the front end much better and a lot of the fast GM F-body autocrosser are finding it works for them also for the same reason. I bought a handling kit back in the early 90's from Rod Millen Motorsports and was never happy with the balance on the car. It was a piggy back arrangement on the front bar, that caused me to lose 1" of ground clearance I couldn't afford, with a larger rear bar. So 2 years a go I had a custom bar bent for the front to go in the stock location. The new bar was a higher rate, about 10%, than the previous combination. It made the whole package work much better, the front stayed visibly flatter with the tires never going to positive camber and the car was MUCH easier to rotate when I needed it to. Good luck with the new car.

Respectfully,
Andy Hohl

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