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Thread: The Most Powerful N/A 3L Built?

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    Alright cool I talked to him and he said he can do it and he has done tons of them I just wanted to hear how he has worked out with others. I will really need his help when I build my N/A monster and need a tune for E85... I don't really have anybody local who can tune it so maybe I'll just bring the engine to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAD Merc SVT View Post
    Alright cool I talked to him and he said he can do it and he has done tons of them I just wanted to hear how he has worked out with others. I will really need his help when I build my N/A monster and need a tune for E85... I don't really have anybody local who can tune it so maybe I'll just bring the engine to him.
    He can do it, but it will take a long time to get everything finalized. Have you thought about just buying the SCT Pro racer software and just tuning it yourself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by timeless420 View Post
    Show me a dyno sheet. Unless your, dyno-tuned or somehow ADC managed to pull a rabbit out of their hat with a mail order tune (I always lost power with them), you'll be lucky to be clearing 230whp. Just being honest.
    Agreed.
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    how did we get a most powerful NA thread and no reference to 'the pudmobile'
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    icefury's car felt very comparable to mine last year at spring zing. i would say 230hp is within reach for him, but to say he will net 250 to the tire is a longshot.

    the best dyno i had N/A was actually 229 hp but was inconsistent to the next two pulls so we scratched it off. to a tuner, 1 dyno pull does not constitute a car's claimed HP rating, you have to back it up.

    i consistently got 219hp and 212 trq three pulls in a row. this was on a 80 degree day and the car had 64 dyno pulls on it that afternoon, and about 6 hours of tuning. safe to say, it was heat soaked. i wish i had it still, there are some changes i could have made to the tune that were good for a few ponies after going to a port-matched TB and 2007 style intake manifold.

    i'd really like to see someone hit 300hp N/A. i think it would take a large bump in compression though.
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    What all did you get messed around with in your tune TRicker? I know you said you wanted a 12.5 AFR all around, didn't you? But what other supporting mods did you have and possibly other tuning factors?
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    Quote Originally Posted by imnotacop420 View Post
    how did we get a most powerful NA thread and no reference to 'the pudmobile'
    I have to agree with this , We will have to find out this spring when I can get a tune lined up
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    Quote Originally Posted by FFE View Post
    I have to agree with this , We will have to find out this spring when I can get a tune lined up
    I would love to see the results.......lots of talk about the beast, I hope it lives up to the hype!

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    I have a magazine article at home with a 3L cougar built by J Jennings of team prototype in CA. The article says the car made 300hp N/A or something like that. I will have to scan the article when I get home. I believe he bored it to a 3.2 or something like that.
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    Between the extensive supporting mods, long tube headers, and PnP headwork I've had done (Kinger put over 40 hrs into it), I'm confident 240 whp is where I'm at. If for some reason I fall short of that, I'm certain a custom dyno tune would put me there.

    I know people have had hit and miss success with ADC's tunes, but mine is certainly a good one. So good in fact, I sold my xcal and prepaid tune with NPG as I could not justify the expense when my CSVT runs as good as it does. There is definitely a difference with and without the tune. DanG (who built my engine) tested it as well and was pleased with the tune ADC sent me. I'm not suggesting that a personalized dyno tune would not be better, clearly it is. However I believe ADC really nailed my tune and unless my dyno falls considerably short of my expectations, I'm not prepared to spend $500-600 coaxing out a few extra ponies.

    I will get a dyno pull done this summer, likely while I'm in the Twin cities this summer for Summer Nationals. I'll be sure and post the results. Tricker, where did you get you dyno done? I'll probably just go there as I know you were satisfied with their shop.

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