Question for the well-seasoned vets out there

[Klasse Act]

I know theres a couple of you guys out there that can answer this question, hell, I know the answer to this question but I just need someone to re-confirm it. Take these two cars:

-2007 MINI Cooper "S"
-sport suspension
-Dunlop tires (280 treadwear)
-good aftermarket exhaust and intake
-3000 lbs with (2) people in it

vs.

-Lotus Elise
-stock everything

Given 2 drivers of equal skill and the question is this, is there any way possible the MCS keeps up with the Elise on an auto-X or road coarse

[striker2]

you would know for sure if you werent a pussy and went for a ride in the Lotus when you had the chance.


















j/k Roger. seeing as how you couldnt keep up with Shea on the skyway im gonna say definitely not.

[Beans]

I'm thinking no..(I'm not experinced but..) I know the Lotus weighs VERY little.. confirmed by googling http://www.sandsmuseum.com/cars/elis...rformance.html

@ less than 2000Lbs

[Klasse Act]

j/k Roger. seeing as how you couldnt keep up with Shea on the skyway im gonna say definitely not

Its just not possible and trying to do so could result in certain death, seriously I'm only asking this because his co-driver kinda slammed me about not keeping up with them and he thought my car would've done alot better, well, the math doesn't add up IMO:

-weight, power to weight and weight distribution

1975 lbs vs. 2600 lbs/190 hp+1975 lbs vs. 190 hp+2600 lbs/50/50 vs. 2/3 nose heavy...hmmm

[Beans]

1975 lbs vs. 2600 lbs/190 hp+1975 lbs vs. 190 hp+2600 lbs/50/50 vs. 2/3 nose heavy...hmmm

Hmmmhmm. He needs-->

[Klasse Act]

Hmmmhmm. He needs-->

Exactly

[111R]

the short answer is probably not. it would have to depends on driver's skill level for both cars.

this reminds me of a race against a hightly modded greddy blown elise vs a stock non-sport elise. hightly modded car is owned by weekend-worrior with little/zero track time and standard stock elise was driven by a lotus chassis engineer. after both having time at willow springs the stock was putting down faster times; it made that guy pretty mad.

[dairdevyld]

The answer is simply no. If this were possible nobody would buy Elise's.

[Trapps]

No. MCS is tight, but an Elise is so well balanced. The proof is in your math:

-weight, power to weight and weight distribution

1975 lbs vs. 2600 lbs/190 hp+1975 lbs vs. 190 hp+2600 lbs/50/50 vs. 2/3 nose heavy...hmmm

[Klasse Act]

Thank you to everyone who re-confirmed what I and just about anyone who knows about cars knows