3L performance question

[novellino21]

how does the 3L performance compare to a lets say a 5.0 or 4.6L v8 mustang. Stock mustang vs. a 3L CSVT(with no other mods)

[KingpinSVT]

[warmonger]

Depends, but against a stock 5.0 a decent 3.0 will probably hand the 5.0 its ass depending on the year. A mod'd 5.0 could do anything from tie with a 3.0 contour to utterly destroy it. lol

Same with the various years of the 4.6L, some were better than others plus there were 2v and 4v versions.

Its about power to weight ratio and area under the torque curve. If you want to know look up an average dyno sheet from each car and compare with shiftpoints and weight as a factor, along with fwd/rwd factors.

[novellino21]

my reason being is b/c i just bought my 3L csvt a couple months ago and i absolutly love the car but i want to build it more and eveuntually do a forced induction project on it in the future. But wit all this modding means no trac. b/c of fwd
I currently have a 98.5 csvt 3L swap from a 04 Ford Escape. non hybrid. With a SAFC. How would my car compare to a 5.0 or a 4.6 stang(stock).

I'm thinking about selling the svt for a older stang v8 and modding it out b/c its rwd, but it wont be rare, 4door, sleeper car, and good in winter which is the greatist things bout the csvt's.
Basically i wanna know what my car is equal too performance wise b/c csvt's dont feel as fast on the butt dyno where as my probe gt felt way faster than it was on the same dyno

[Big Jim]

The one place that your Contour would be superior is when your carving a canyon. If you're trying to make it a drag car, it will be very difficult to make it run like a well modded and tuned Mustang.

[AliasJerk]

You can get plenty of power out of a 3L CSVT and still not have serious traction issues.

Although instead of F/I you might be better off doing nitrious. That way you can do a bunch of bolt ons, push down plenty of power N/A for daily driving and such. But once you get to the track, get the nitrious flowing once you hit 3rd or 4th gear. No traction problems and a nice track time.

[Ray]

So, a RWD, drag built platform will go down the track faster... WHO CARES?

I can start my car, drive through the canyons at my home, hug each apex at near any speed I choose, change my pants twice on the way due to engine sound (), get to the track before the mustang, make two or three passes, and LEAVE before the mustang can get there to make its pass which is a piddly 2 or 3 seconds faster than mine was.

All of this while carrying my luggage and my friends.. and I could care less about a mustang being faster at the track.

[novellino21]

yea everything you guys said is true, but do mustangs really handle that poorly? I figured you can make them handle decently. But that did slip my mind bout the contour is that it can do more than make a decent time in a straight line.
Bout the nitrous thing, i dont know. Nitrous has to be done right if you want the life out of your engine. I would want to do wet nitrous and not dry b/c it's better for your motor and more efficient. But that means i gotta take my engine down to the block almost. Either way it's a ton harder on the engine but you can do it the right way or the wrong way and i think dry nitrous is the wrong way. But be4 that i would do a bunch of bolt on's first. I can't waite till i get exhaust and headers next year, it's going to sound amazing My goal is to beat a stock sti in a staight line. if not that then get into mid 13's on street tires at the least.What would be a decent time for a 3L wit only bolt on mods(xception of the 3L swap).

[AliasJerk]

The contour was never designed for straight lines. The contour was origionally a Mondeo in Europe, European cars are designed for handling, taking a corner. Not going in a straight line, they arent americans.

Thats what I respect about the contour, My old Zetec contour I had more funs in the twisties then when I drove my mom's Grand Prix GT. Although it was much faster in a straight line.

Personally I would rather have a car that puts a stupidly big smile on my face in the twisties then a car that gives me good numbers in a straight line.

[chrisl311]

well you sure as hell have a great start with the 3l, which i assume you got from blackcoog? man just start with a full exhaust, youll smile everytime you drive it. do your suspension with shocks and springs, and youll see what theyre talking about. a lighter flywheel would have been nice, but its a little late for that now. just take it in strides...