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twin force tech???

Question.. how did you get your Make #'s? I can;t remember where i got mine back in the day... I've got one # on one of my SVT's but not the other. ? THANKS
 
I read it, and I'm going to say a definate no on the electric assist. Toyota is the only one putting a ton of money into it right now and they are the only ones anywhere close to a production ready piece. Variable geometry is a definate maybe; Ford has used it before, and may again. However, given the nature of the engine you specifically asked about, a Twin Turbo 3.5L V6 is likely to have very small turbos ala the Nissan 300ZX and the Mitsu 3kGT, so VG isn't a necessity as the tiny turbos would spool very quickly anyway, and they probably won't be too concerned about high boost and peak power. Now, IF they realize what they can really do, and how much power they could really make, they would put two medium sized turbos on w/ VG (or one big one) to get a nice low boost threshold and a very efficient compressor at the top end.

Too bad this is all speculation until Ford actually releases something to the public :( But, I will say I'll be watching the applications this engine comes in very closely. . . I may have to get one as a good foundation for a toy . . .
 
From what I have seen and read Ford is planning on a whole range of "twin force" engines not just the 3.5. It looks as though the 3.5 will be the first out of the box though and could end up suiting a very wide range of applications. I hope that the VG tech will be a big part of the engines when they are released.
 
cuda06 said:
I hope that the VG tech will be a big part of the engines when they are released.
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It's a toss-up. There has been pretty high warranty costs on the VG turbo used on the recent Diesels. That may shy Ford management away from the VG stuff. Either way, you can be sure that since they are factory turbos and not from Porsche, they will be undersized, lol.
 
Rara said:
It's a toss-up. There has been pretty high warranty costs on the VG turbo used on the recent Diesels. That may shy Ford management away from the VG stuff. Either way, you can be sure that since they are factory turbos and not from Porsche, they will be undersized, lol.
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Nailed it. Too high a cost from several viewpoints: R&D costs, up front cost for the VG units, warranty work, and perceived reliability. Last thing a US automaker needs in this highly competative market is a reputation for building unreliable crap - especially since Ford has recently done so well in the JD Power rankings. That's something they could sing about more in their advertising. It makes lots more sense to utilize a pair of smaller turbos if you have designed the room for them in your application. Simpler & cheaper is better.

GM bringing the latest Holden offering from Australia is a big move. That is a very capable car to compete with. If Ford can generate a comparable performer & make it more reliable than the Holdens have been recently, they could have a winner on their hands. Will it make money is another question. Oil prices up, market troubled for the next year or so, weakening dollar. Looks like the econo-box types will be the big market in the near future. Hyundai & Kia stand to make a ton of money in the next 12 to 18 months... and Ford without the Escort... :nonono:
 
Twin-turbo V6
The powertrain is unexpectedly sporty, too. It's a twin-turbo version of Ford's recently introduced 3.5-liter V6 with direct injection. Ford claims the MKR's motor makes 415 horsepower and 400 pound-feet of torque and runs on E85 ethanol. A version of this motor, called the TwinForce, will make it to production, but the double-throwdown chrome treatment it has received for auto show duty will not. Lincoln even went so far as to carry some of the sedan's cranberry red metallic paint under the hood. The MKR's engine is mated to a six-speed automatic transmission with steering-wheel-mounted shift paddles.

found here:

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=118973
 
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