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  • 3L track testing: 6th out of 92 in raw time this weekend

    Hi CEG, thought I'd check in with an update since I had a pretty exciting Sunday racing with Ohio Valley Region SCCA. I haven't updated/concluded my 3L build thread, which I do plan to get around to eventually, but suffice it to say the car is up and running and undergoing some shakedown and chassis tuning at local autocrosses. My first time out was just on street tires and a conservative alignment to evaluate the new drivetrain reliability (fine) and front/rear suspension coordination with the new weight and distribution (not fine). Based on that, I made a lot of setup changes and went back out this weekend on race tires to see what this thing could really* do.

    The result was a pretty remarkable 6th/92 in raw time, and 10th/92 PAX using the CPrepared (very fast) index. Considering that two of the faster raw times were a kart and an FMod, the only faster car times were set by a SS GT3, an ASP RX-7, and a STU STi. I'll take it. Even before the engine swap and track build, the car was somewhat of a local crowd pleaser, but I'm excited at the new legitimate competitive potential it's now showing.

    *I still have several chassis improvements in the works, the engine is only running on a rough base tune and hasn't seen a dyno yet, and it's a country mile from actual CPrepared-ness...heck, it still has A/C, stereo, and all of its powered systems and glass, and running 225s...in other words, it has a lot more performance left in it if I were to pursue building it for autocross.

    Anyway, I thought I'd share in the hope of encouraging some people to join in keeping a glimmer of motorsports legacy alive with these cars.

    Unfortunately there was no course photog out this weekend, but here are some static shots I took with my phone. You can see the GT3 and the RX-7 I mentioned, coincidentally gridded adjacent to me.







    ~Ben~
    99 SilFro SVT 2072 4/27/99 prepped track rat

  • #2
    congrats man! cant wait to start tracking my car. what springs/struts are you using? and i like those rims, what are they? any specs?
    1999 Mercury Cougar Full 3.0L MTX
    236HP

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    • #3
      and you still have stock brakes lol
      2001 F150 4.6 extended cab NO I WON'T HELP YOU MOVE!
      1999 Escort ZX2 DD 256K miles
      1998 SVT Contour Race Car in the making[URL="http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg208/93stangfutr50/9962c8b0-2832-4051-a799-c8dced8c2ff2_zps2d8af870.jpg"][IMG]http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg208/93stangfutr50/9962c8b0-2832-4051-a799-c8dced8c2ff2_zps2d8af870.jpg[/URL][/IMG]

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      • #4
        Yes, still basically stock brake system. Only modifications are race compound pads, braided stainless steel lines, and pulling the ABS fuse for competition.

        The struts are off-the-shelf Koni Sports modified for Ground Control sleeves. I have an assortment of spring rates depending on what I'm doing with the car. The wheels are some old and long discontinued ASA IS6.
        ~Ben~
        99 SilFro SVT 2072 4/27/99 prepped track rat

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        • #5
          Carbotech is actually based really close to me I just don't want to spend $250 on a front set of pads :\
          2001 F150 4.6 extended cab NO I WON'T HELP YOU MOVE!
          1999 Escort ZX2 DD 256K miles
          1998 SVT Contour Race Car in the making[URL="http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg208/93stangfutr50/9962c8b0-2832-4051-a799-c8dced8c2ff2_zps2d8af870.jpg"][IMG]http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg208/93stangfutr50/9962c8b0-2832-4051-a799-c8dced8c2ff2_zps2d8af870.jpg[/URL][/IMG]

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          • #6
            what spring rate combos have you tried? ive got 650-400 now and im still rubbing from compression in the rear in hard corners.

            and why not run in SMF?
            2001 2.5 Cougar with some mods out of commission for now
            1999 SC3L Cougar with more mods
            2014 Ecoboost SE Fusion with floormats and mudflaps!
            '08 Mustang Bullitt #5389 sold to B3NN3TT 4/12/13

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            • #7
              Because 3L and no interior...neither of which are SM category legal.

              400 is a pretty soft rear rate for autocross, especially with 650 fronts. I've been using rates ranging from 500-600 at all corners for a couple years, and just bought some 350s that I plan to try in the rear for road racing.
              ~Ben~
              99 SilFro SVT 2072 4/27/99 prepped track rat

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              • #8
                Jaged is running his supercharged 3L in SMF...

                The interior thing I can't help you with :)
                2000 3.0 Roush Cougar
                2013 Focus ST
                2002 MINI Cooper S
                2008 Mustang Bullitt # 5389

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                • #9
                  Ok. Doesn't make it legal. Either he's claiming it as a 2.5 or he's just running it locally and no one cares to protest.

                  Direct quote from 2013 SCCA Solo Rules (available to anyone online):
                  16.1.D.1. "Engine block must be a production unit manufactured and badged the same as the original standard or optional engine for that model."
                  ~Ben~
                  99 SilFro SVT 2072 4/27/99 prepped track rat

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                  • #10
                    engine swaps are legal in SM as long as they bolt to the stock mounting locations. just like all the 88-89 civics at nationals that are running k series engines in SMF.

                    How much of the interior is gone?
                    2001 2.5 Cougar with some mods out of commission for now
                    1999 SC3L Cougar with more mods
                    2014 Ecoboost SE Fusion with floormats and mudflaps!
                    '08 Mustang Bullitt #5389 sold to B3NN3TT 4/12/13

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                    • #11
                      How do they circumvent the explicit statement above mandating a standard or optional engine block? Does not compute.

                      More than just the backseat is gone. All trim from B-pillar back, all carpet, melt sheet, firewall pad...
                      ~Ben~
                      99 SilFro SVT 2072 4/27/99 prepped track rat

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                      • #12
                        i also run my 3L in SMF, i was told its legal
                        1999 Mercury Cougar Full 3.0L MTX
                        236HP

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                        • #13
                          CP? I'd love to run the same event as you sometime. =)
                          98.5 Silver Frost CSVT #5979 - 3L - Sold!
                          92 Taurus SHO MTX - Autocross prepared - 13.1 @ 107
                          04 WRX STI - Daily Driver.
                          12 Mazdaspeed 3 - Wifes DD / Auto-X Toy.

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                          • #14
                            OVR last event of the season 10/19...;)
                            ~Ben~
                            99 SilFro SVT 2072 4/27/99 prepped track rat

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                            • #15
                              So 3L is SM Legal? I always thought it was as well.
                              '98 SVT E0 BLK/MNB#1663 Forged Ovalport 3L Supercharged

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