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  • this car will be awesome. if you make it to sz i want to go for a ride
    1998 Contour SVT- Monster Hybrid 3L ASA Racing wheels,Graphite Effext Paint, Custom True Duels, Cat-Delete, Shorty Headers, Custom Cams, PNP Heads w/3L valves... many more goodies Owner HMS in Akron Ohio

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    • Well after a little prying and some burning (I had it soaking in gasoline to see if it would eat the rubber, no dice, but it did help it burn )...




      and a couple of these...



      Then some sand blasting...



      I'm ready for some powder coating and some urethane. I have some 94A urethane, but I'm thinking I don't want teeth shattering stiffness. So I'm going to look at some other options.
      -Mike
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      • My dad has the 94 for both the front and rear mounts, its very stiff. I can't remember which 2 we mixed for mine, but it was much more forgiving. I think it was a 60 and 80 something mixed. If I had to do it again I would just do the 80.
        1998 T-Red SVT 115,000 miles (Died 9/01/08)
        2000 Tropic Green SVT #396 - 04 3L, HMS Trans, Wilwood BBK, FSVT Rear BBK, Koni/H&R...NPG Turbo Kit (JUNK)

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        • Yup I think I'm going to go with 80A urethane. Just can't remember how much I'm going to need. I thought 1lb would be enough for both, but I've got a PM to Josh to see what is up. Hopefully I hear back from him in a bit so I can place the order.
          -Mike
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          • psh, just make them solid. I just installed solid roll mounts on my VR4 and i already had poly motor mounts, its really not that bad.
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            • Originally posted by bhiggs89 View Post
              My dad has the 94 for both the front and rear mounts, its very stiff. I can't remember which 2 we mixed for mine, but it was much more forgiving. I think it was a 60 and 80 something mixed. If I had to do it again I would just do the 80.
              DO NOT RUN 60. I experimented with two sets in 60A two years ago, and they were junk in 3k miles. It's too soft. I've done over 300 mounts in 94, and had two people return them because they were "too stiff". You can also remove a lot of the NVH simply by letting the car rest on flat ground with both thru bolts loose and then tightening them down with the engine in it's "natural" position.
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              • Originally posted by Pole120 View Post
                DO NOT RUN 60. I experimented with two sets in 60A two years ago, and they were junk in 3k miles. It's too soft. I've done over 300 mounts in 94, and had two people return them because they were "too stiff". You can also remove a lot of the NVH simply by letting the car rest on flat ground with both thru bolts loose and then tightening them down with the engine in it's "natural" position.
                Good to know... so maybe 94A is where it's at.

                I also was wondering where my lifters where at... looked out the front door and...




                Heads will be completely assembled tomorrow!!
                -Mike
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                85 Camaro - 1969 350ci, 503BHP

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                • 94a *is* stiff... but you really don't notice it. I remember when the ADC kit first came out, some people were having issues with the stock mounts flexing too much and the shifter cable pulling the tranny out of gear. I'd be a little worried about that with any urethane softer than 94a.
                  morbid
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                  2000 Contour SVT (black); #61 (Sept 17, 1999)
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                  • I hated 94A in the rear roll restrictor. It forced too much vibrations into the steering wheel. The front can be filled with it but I switched back to a stock mount in the rear. I'd do 80 in the rear but that's just me. Then again I think the Cougar seemed to show more road vibrations than the Contour. I would have thought they would be the same but they aren't. Maybe they use different steering racks.

                    Are the parts in the pictures above actually called lifters? I thought lifters were only used on pushrod motors and these were called hydraulic lash adjusters (HLA). Then I did a search on it and now I'm not so sure because the descriptions I found could be those shown above. Just curious so I get it right in the future when describing them.
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                    • Originally posted by Blackcoog View Post

                      Are the parts in the pictures above actually called lifters? I thought lifters were only used on pushrod motors and these were called hydraulic lash adjusters (HLA). Then I did a search on it and now I'm not so sure because the descriptions I found could be those shown above. Just curious so I get it right in the future when describing them.
                      technically they are lash adjusters, but most people refer to them as lifters. generally, a lifter rides on the cam lobes (the Zetec is closer to lifters but they are called direct acting mechanical buckets), while a lash adjuster sits in a hole and takes up the lash in the rocker arm (the middle of the rocker arm rides on the cam with the valve under one end and the lash adjuster under the other).
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                      • Originally posted by Blackcoog View Post
                        I hated 94A in the rear roll restrictor. It forced too much vibrations into the steering wheel. The front can be filled with it but I switched back to a stock mount in the rear. I'd do 80 in the rear but that's just me. Then again I think the Cougar seemed to show more road vibrations than the Contour. I would have thought they would be the same but they aren't. Maybe they use different steering racks.
                        The first time I filled my f/r mounts, I had a ton of vibration. Then I read that the solidity of it will magnify everything... and that a misaligned powertrain was probably the culprit. I got the alignment tool and found the rear was way off (it was towards the bottom). After it was aligned, it had a little vibration.. but I didn't notice it after a couple days.
                        morbid
                        2011 Edge SEL AWD (black) - daily driver
                        2000 Contour SVT (black); #61 (Sept 17, 1999)
                        3L with ADC turbo kit; 325hp / 338tq @ 7psi
                        car is down with a broken tranny

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                        • Originally posted by imnotacop420 View Post
                          Dude you are the F-ing man!!!! This is the most EPIC build in CEG History, you are going to go down in the history books!

                          Now hurry up and finish this damn thing!
                          Ditto!!!
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                          • Paint is ordered!!

                            -Mike
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                            98 SVT Contour - HoK TruBlue|CF roof|#49/6535 DOB 3/25/97|550whp here I come|Follow my extremely slow 3L/turbo build here Link
                            85 Camaro - 1969 350ci, 503BHP

                            Owner - RIES PEFORMANCE

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                            • HoK hughhhh....lol
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                              • Originally posted by ContourGuy9817 View Post
                                HoK hughhhh....lol
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                                -Mike
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                                98 SVT Contour - HoK TruBlue|CF roof|#49/6535 DOB 3/25/97|550whp here I come|Follow my extremely slow 3L/turbo build here Link
                                85 Camaro - 1969 350ci, 503BHP

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