remote start

[CSVT_2004]

Has anyone put a remote start system in their SVT Contour? I work @ Best Buy Mobile Install and the only thing I haven't been able to figure out is how exactly to bypass my clutch switch. I could ask my supervisor, but I haven't yet. The way I see it, I would have to bypass the clutch switch in order to trick the car into thinking the clutch was pushed in, and also meaning that I'd have to leave my car in neutral all the time (obviously), I can't figure if there is any wires though that detect if the transmission is in gear or not. I've looked on mitchell on demand and seen some wires that might be something but I'm not for sure. I need to look under the engine and see if any wires in the program match up or are there at all. I just am hopeing there is some wire that will be able to tell if the manual transmission is in neutral or not, because I'd like to have that added sense of security, in case i should forget to put the car out of gear.

[KingpinSVT]

There is no such wire on the trans. Only a switch on the clutch. There was a how to for a clutch switch disable on the main site, but I am unsure if that works or not right now.

[Steeda...]

What best buy do you work at?

If you wanna make it easy you could strip both wires a bit then twist them together with the harness still attached. But you won't have cruise control. becuase the car will always think the clutch is pushed in and disengage the CC. I grounded one of the wires on MX's old svt and he says that he still had cruise. on directechs it tells you what wire i believe. Its really easy

[CSVT_2004]

Yeah, my supervisor told me that too, that the wire has to be grounded. I'm in Madison, WI. Well I was told at one time, if you had a manual transmission you had to buy like a $100 microswtich kit, that allowed the remote start to know weather or not the car was in gear, by putting a micro switch on each gear. Or maybe it's not carried anymore, ever heard of this?

[Berkel]

Compustar's are compatible with manual transmissions :shrug: You have to put the car in neutral and pull the E-brake for it to be able to remote start the next time around I believe. Just food for thought.

Tas Electronics wanted to charge me another $100 to wire up a standard remote starter to my MTX so I backed out :rolleyes:

[svtd00d]

the funny thing that you describe actually happend to a buddy of mine. he has his s-10 in first gear without the parking break, and it drove itself out of the parking lot!! hopefully you find that wire!

[CSVT_2004]

Compustar's are compatible with manual transmissions :shrug: You have to put the car in neutral and pull the E-brake for it to be able to remote start the next time around I believe. Just food for thought.

Tas Electronics wanted to charge me another $100 to wire up a standard remote starter to my MTX so I backed out :rolleyes:

See the problem with that is, that my car doesn't have a neutral switch as far as I know, If i get some time tonight at work i'm going to try playing around with it and see if i can find something.

[CSVT_2004]

Compustar's are compatible with manual transmissions :shrug: You have to put the car in neutral and pull the E-brake for it to be able to remote start the next time around I believe. Just food for thought.

Tas Electronics wanted to charge me another $100 to wire up a standard remote starter to my MTX so I backed out :rolleyes:

See the problem with that is, that my car doesn't have a neutral switch as far as I know, If i get some time tonight at work i'm going to try playing around with it and see if i can find something.

[projectSHO89]

If you want to install a remote start on an MTX, get ONLY a system designed and built for this application...

Steve

[CSVT_2004]

If you want to install a remote start on an MTX, get ONLY a system designed and built for this application...

Steve

Where would you find any of these systems??

[KyleQ]

Compu-Star is by far the ONLY option for these cars. I believe they are the only company that offers remote start systems of manual trans cars, plus they have a superior product.

http://www.compustar.org/dealer_locator.htm

[hotdimmes]

my brother hmouta has remote start in his svt. you can try pm'ing him about it if he doesn't chime in.

[Steeda...]

you can do it with any RS you need a plunger type switch. Its very easy

[CSVT_2004]

you can do it with any RS you need a plunger type switch. Its very easy

Please.... explain more....

[Static]

I did it I just unpluged the switch and that bypassed it. I might have made a jumper to plug into the harness to jumper the two wires together but its like a 5 min thing. very very simple

[CSVT_2004]

I did it I just unpluged the switch and that bypassed it. I might have made a jumper to plug into the harness to jumper the two wires together but its like a 5 min thing. very very simple

Does that affect the cruise control at all?

[Static]

no but if you push the clutch in with the cruise on it will just rev the engine up so you need to tap the brake or turn the cruise off before depressing the clutch

[CSVT_2004]

Well from what I've heard, it's a simple matter of grounding the right wire for a remote start on that switch, and then you can still retain that cruise control functionality...

[Static]

my way worked just fine I thought unless your in the habit of turning the cruise off with the clutch

[CSVT_2004]

my way worked just fine I thought unless your in the habit of turning the cruise off with the clutch

Yeah, I usually turn my cruise off that way. once or twice I think I've used my clutch, I think it's instinct, then again the brake should do the same. I think I'm in the habit of off switch, down shift, and e-brake..... that's my little process for when my fuz goes off...

[CSVT_2004]

I got the remote start in, and I have it hooked up so I'm still retaining my clutch and cruise control normal functionality.

[rocketmanrw]

I got the remote start in, and I have it hooked up so I'm still retaining my clutch and cruise control normal functionality.

soo. how did you do it? where did you put it ? can you hook it up to a aftermarket alarm system?
i have a aftermarket system and everywhere i have asked they tell me no its against their policy to put on a stick only auto..
i would really love to do this on my svt

[fordsvt98]

Ya I got a DEI clutch bypass module in mine. with a PATS bypass. what kinda remote start are you using (what make and model) I got the compustar 2wss

[CSVT_2004]

soo. how did you do it? where did you put it ? can you hook it up to a aftermarket alarm system?
i have a aftermarket system and everywhere i have asked they tell me no its against their policy to put on a stick only auto..
i would really love to do this on my svt

Ya I got a DEI clutch bypass module in mine. with a PATS bypass. what kinda remote start are you using (what make and model) I got the compustar 2wss

Answer to 1st question, I tapped two wires that connect to the push pin on the back side of the clutch pedal, the one closest to the firewall, I'll have to look the wires up again, but you hook them up to a relay that connects them when the remote start is activated, faking the car into thinking the clutch is pressed in....

2nd. I have a Viper 791xv

[Steeda...]

Good deal CSVT2004

I also have hooked up a couple of plunger switches soo that if your car is in gear it won't let the RS engage. I did that in my buddies Mustang

[CSVT_2004]

Good deal CSVT2004

I also have hooked up a couple of plunger switches soo that if your car is in gear it won't let the RS engage. I did that in my buddies Mustang

You should send me some pics of that so I can see it, I'd like to have something on my MTX as well to take care of that should it ever occur....

As for the wires to bypass...

Here's suggestion 101..... if you DON'T know how a RELAY works...... then you had better FIND SOMEONE who does....

Because I'm not reponsible if you hook crap up this way, or another way... and screw something up.... by reading this and using this information... you agree to release me from all liability of your future problems or mess ups. Heck I could be wrong and not know it.... so if you think something doesn't sound right... don't do it... find someone very experienced with electronics and have them help you....

I used a relay... pin 85 went to the blue wire on my remote start system.. which was a (-)200ma status output... when the remote start engages this wire connects to ground.....

Pin 86 went to (+)12v
Pin 87a normally closed - nothing
Pin 87 normally open - Connected to black/yellow wire coming from pin switch closest to firewall on clutch...
Pin 30 Common - Connected to black wire coming from pin switch closest to firewall on clutch....

Black/yellow and black can go on either pin 30 or 87, as long as they connect when the relay snaps on...

Also not for sure if 87a is the normally closed all the time or not, you'll have to look at your relay, they should have instructions and a diagram on the actual relay, just need to figure out what pins are common and normally open.... because if you choose common and normally closed, the wire will be connected when the relay is off, and then disconnect when the relay is on.... so make sure you get the right pins....
When the remote start kicks in, the relay energizes, connecting the black/yellow with the black and makes the car think the clutch is pressed in, and then the car starts... assumeing you have the PATS module and everything setup correctly....

These are the wires that worked for me.... Test your **** if your going to do this... I'm putting these here as recommendations... if you mess up your car following my directions it is not my fault... To determine if these wires were correct for mine, I put probes on them from my multimeter, and put it on continuity test. Then just pushed the pin in to see if the multimeter would beep at me.... and it did....

[i will end you]

heres the easiest way, take the 2 wires from your clutch switch and run them to a simple togle switch. when you turn the switch on the car thinks that the clutch is pushed in, when the switch is turned off the circuit is broken-i.e. no contact-i.e. no start. put the switch in a secret spot and when you want to activate your remote start turn on the switch,take it out of gear aply e-brake. and as long as your pats bypass is installed properly it will remote start. when you want your cruise back flip the switch off and the car goes back to looking for the pedal. it worked for my mtx altima, sentra, civic, zx2, i have an auto tour but im sure it will work on your car too. good luck

[CSVT_2004]

heres the easiest way, take the 2 wires from your clutch switch and run them to a simple togle switch. when you turn the switch on the car thinks that the clutch is pushed in, when the switch is turned off the circuit is broken-i.e. no contact-i.e. no start. put the switch in a secret spot and when you want to activate your remote start turn on the switch,take it out of gear aply e-brake. and as long as your pats bypass is installed properly it will remote start. when you want your cruise back flip the switch off and the car goes back to looking for the pedal. it worked for my mtx altima, sentra, civic, zx2, i have an auto tour but im sure it will work on your car too. good luck

yeah... that's the retarded way to do it.... relays are simple... if you don't know how to use one then I'm sorry, your stupid... just wait till you forget to flip the switch and your cruise doesn't work.... because you can't reach your "secret spot". Plus most remote start units come with a separate bypass switch to disable the remote start from operating, the viper unit I have works on a ground basis.... if the wire is grounded... remote start works... if it isn't grounded.. remote start doesn't work.... Learn to use a relay, and do it the right way.... instead of the cheap way....