i want to turbo my car [Archive]

JEFFtourCT

09-08-2006, 01:47 AM

hey guys,

my friend pulled out his stock turbo from his WRX. a trubos a turbo... right?

so what would it take to get that turbo to work on my csvt?

exluding the intercooler that goes into most csvt's.

mainly the question is, how would the turbo bolt up, what would i need bare minimal to get 4-5 psi. and could the stock 2.5 handle it?

be nice. there's no stickys FAQs in the forced induction fourm

KingpinSVT

09-08-2006, 02:16 AM

A turbo is not a turbo.

If that is the extent of you knowledge, you have a long way to go before I would recommend that you attempt something of this magnitude yourself.

And Im not trying be be a smart a**. A stickie wouldnt cover what you need to learn. I would start on google with "homemade turbo" or something like that. There are a few websites and forums dedicated to homemade turbos, and it would probably be benificial to you to check them out and see what exactly goes into it.

JEFFtourCT

09-08-2006, 02:18 AM

there are many different sizes and types of turbos. this is now. the concept that they give boost is what i was going towards.

RawBurt

09-08-2006, 09:04 AM

I want to turbo my car too. My buddy just pulled one off of his semi truck...
http://www.800toolbox.com/Semi_dir/Semi_truck_illus.jpg

I'm thinking about boosting it up to 57 psi.

CSVT1214

09-08-2006, 11:17 AM

Jeff man, plan out your mods better and do more reading. Don't just jump onto anything because it sounds good at the time.

Rara

09-08-2006, 11:28 AM

First, Your understanding of the way a turbo works is fundamentally flawed.
Turbochargers do not create boost, they simply use exhaut flow energy to run a "fan" (a highly engineered, and fancy "fan" but still a fan) that blows air into the intake side of the engine. The resistance to flow by the intake tract is what creates the resulting pressure buildup that people call boost. All boost is not created equal; 10psi of boost on a 2.0L WRX engine does not net the same increase as 10psi of boost on a 2.5L Contour engine, or even the same as 10psi of boost on a 2.0L Contour engine.

The stock WRX turbo is too small; You would need two of the stock WRX turbos to flow enough air to feed any decent power increase on the 2.5L Duratec. Provided you found two turbos, or even if you found one single turbo of the right size, you would need to build custom exhaust manifolds, custom downpipe(s), custom intake plumbing, a custom intercooler and plumbing to it (assuming you want an intercooler), you would need larger injectors, larger fuel pump capacity, a method of recalibrating the ECU, and a few other odds and ends. basically, if you don't have extensive technical knowledge of turbochargers (which its clear you don't, because of they way you asked your question) don't go the custom route; stick with a pre-engineered setup from a reputable company. If you must go turbo on your car, I highly recommend you either locate a used ADC turbo kit, or patiently wait until thier updated and simplified kit becomes available (if it ever does).

posthuman63t

09-08-2006, 01:09 PM

Wow, very nice post Rara. It is sometimes difficult to get the point across to people with so few words, and not only say something, but justify it as well. Too many people don't understand the difficulty and depth of something as complex (and yes it is complex as a whole) as turbocharging a car.

To Rawburt: Hahaha! Thats hilarious...

Tourige

09-08-2006, 04:31 PM

Not to mention with any decent turbo setup your going to need a rebuilt transmission with a quaife/torsen and your going to need a beefer clutch to handle the power.

JEFFtourCT

09-09-2006, 12:42 AM

wow guys, thanks for being so understanding..

Rara

09-09-2006, 02:19 AM

wow guys, thanks for being so understanding..

What? you want us to coddle you into a false sense of security so you can get a warm fuzzy based on your incorrect assumptions about how simple it is????? If you want self affirmations about how good enough you are and how smart enough you are, I'm sure there is a Jack Handey forum out there somewhere (because doggone it, people like him) But don't expect it here; I'd much prefer getting a little cold dose of reality before I waste a boatload of cash, time and energy on something that is fundamentally flawed.

And for the record, no one ever said it couldn't be done (and it has been done), just that you were going about it the wrong way and with the wrong turbo.

Beans

09-09-2006, 11:06 AM

http://www.arizonadynochip.com/Default.asp

posthuman63t

09-09-2006, 02:29 PM

http://www.arizonadynochip.com/Default.asp

They no longer offer either kit...

BloodyTomFlint

09-11-2006, 11:26 AM

{link removed due to content and potential accidental activation} ***** so it might not be work safe for some people.

http://www.turbomustangs.com/ the junkyard section

And there is also google. That should get you started.

MapOfTaziFoSho

09-11-2006, 01:40 PM

Captain Stabbin...LMFAO.

Pugulis

09-11-2006, 10:22 PM

If you were looking to take on a project I would look into a supercharger setup. It still would be complicated but not nearly as much. I'm sure you could find a S/C for a mustang and modify the setup to work. But as has been said, you still would need to reprogram the cpu. But if you want the most power for your money (and I think that's what your looking to do!) Put a loud muffler on, A BIG letter R sticker on the side and some chinese letters on the rear window and you'll get at least 75 more hp and probably run in the high 12 second range.:laugh:

ancientsanskrit

09-12-2006, 12:05 AM

Captain Stabbin...LMFAO.

Bahahaha, oh man that's funny. {censored based on content}
...bahahaha. That's great stuff!

WorldTour

09-12-2006, 06:11 PM

OK, back on subject guys

warmonger

09-12-2006, 06:21 PM

Nothing personal guys but some of the content offended some people and we just fixed it up. Since I don't think there was any intentional attempt to break the rules we'll just point out that this is a friendly reminder. If there is any heartache over it then it might be wise to review the policy again.

BloodyTomFlint

09-13-2006, 10:09 AM

Can I post a link to a different part of the site? To the forums or projects or something? The main page is the only one with that pic on it.

WorldTour

09-13-2006, 10:54 AM

Can I post a link to a different part of the site? To the forums or projects or something? The main page is the only one with that pic on it.

Thats fine, just be sure that its a forum safe link prior to posting.

morbid

09-13-2006, 01:31 PM

First off, check out http://www.garrett.com (http://www.garrett.com/). Specifically their Turbo 101/102/103 pages, which explain turbos and how to size them (almost complete -- no info on factoring in compression ratio and timing).

SHOgoFast

09-13-2006, 02:37 PM

Yeah Jeff, it is a hell of a project!!! I went into it with a complete kit that had EVERYTHING less an upgraded fuel pump and the whole project is still not complete. I can't even fathom the time and effort that the custom guys put in!!

Dont get me wrong it is an amazing leaning experience and the information and knowledge i have gathered to this point has been worth the time and money spent. If you do still plan on going forward I would recommend you read the book Maximum Boost by Corky Bell first. That will give you a good basic understand of a complete turbo application. Once you do that I think you will be able to ask specific enough questions to get the help you are looking for around here.

PS you will not find better help for turboing a contour anywhere else.

JEFFtourCT

09-14-2006, 02:01 AM

thanks adam, ill look into that...

just looking back on the thread ....
(which i hoped would have just died out then realizeing there are only three threads in the forced induction fourm to begin with)

I was to N0obish,, in saying that i wanted to turbo my car..

I just a little fed up with my car not standing up to my friends wrxs and that damn little red colbalt ss..

i wanted a big power boost and i thought i would be able to just to bolt up something to give me just enough boost on a stock block to get me up to par with the other guys.

the cat back and intake aren't doing much anymore, i need to feel more of a difference... and little things like the y pipe opt and the TB opt are things that i can't do by myself ..

(not like i could do a turbo my self, just saying)

some of you have been helpful.. others not so much.. (Captain Stabbin? lol i saw that and was confused)

I'm not breaking up with you.. lol.. i was just a little frustrated with the amount of mockery i received from people who are supposed to lend a helping hand and share a common passion.

(someone better shed a tear after this one)

Y2KSVT

09-14-2006, 09:41 AM

If you want something that's relatively easy to install, with added power, just go with nitrous. Please please PLEASE read up on it though! Definitely the best bang for the buck available, where as bolt-ons for these cars will give you 2-10hp each.

Mark

P.S. Trubendz is not spelled truebendz ;) (see your sig)

Pugulis

09-15-2006, 02:20 AM

Definitely the best bang for the buck available, where as bolt-ons for these cars will give you 2-10hp each.

As in BANG your engine will blow up if you do it wrong.

Y2KSVT

09-15-2006, 09:20 AM

As in BANG your engine will blow up if you do it wrong.

OMG!! F&F!! NAAWWWSSSSS!! Hey Mad Scientest, can you replace the piston rings I just fried from "doing it wrong?"

Seriously, this is the FORCED INDUCTION forum!! There isn't one form of forced induction that WON'T harm your engine if you "do it wrong."

Pugulis, thank you for now making me feel dumber this morning, for reading your post.

Mark

KingpinSVT

09-15-2006, 09:49 AM

As in BANG your engine will blow up if you do it wrong.

Do you live a 1/4 mile at a time?

Tourige

09-15-2006, 11:25 AM

As in BANG your engine will blow up if you do it wrong.

https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/jpowell1/www/funny/DUDE.JPG

Nitrous is VERY fun. :D

striker2

09-15-2006, 11:47 AM

As in BANG your engine will blow up if you do it wrong.

actually its not the nitrous itself that blows the engine. its lack of fuel that makes it run lean when you hit the nitrous that blows it up.

Stazi

09-19-2006, 07:13 PM

Damn the tards just keep ooooooon coming!

Y2KSVT

09-19-2006, 07:50 PM

Damn the tards just keep ooooooon coming!

Excellent use of your 10,000th post! :laugh:

Mark

striker2

09-20-2006, 01:25 AM

Damn the tards just keep ooooooon coming!

stazi are you calling me a tard? :confused: i certainaly hope not cause what i stated is exactly why engines running nitrous blow up.

that or too big a shot for the engine.

Tourige

09-20-2006, 07:14 PM

stazi are you calling me a tard? :confused: i certainaly hope not cause what i stated is exactly why engines running nitrous blow up.

that or too big a shot for the engine.

No, its to Pugulis and the thread starter.

JEFFtourCT

09-20-2006, 07:24 PM

No, its to Pugulis and the thread starter.

if YOU haven't noticed i haven't said anything since finding the answer to my question.

if i could i would have deected the thread all together.

nazi's and dooshs just keep ragging.

(and now i bet you're going to correct my spelling on the word doosh.. sorry you guys have way too much time on your hands)

Pienstars

09-20-2006, 08:37 PM

Hey "Douche"
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/evolutionsentra/stfu5nh.gif

Tourige

09-21-2006, 10:13 PM

if YOU haven't noticed i haven't said anything since finding the answer to my question.

if i could i would have deected the thread all together.

nazi's and dooshs just keep ragging.

(and now i bet you're going to correct my spelling on the word doosh.. sorry you guys have way too much time on your hands)

my favorite part of this post is where instead of just fixing his stupid spelling mistake.. He writes something about us being A holes...

warmonger

09-21-2006, 11:53 PM

I don't see where he wrote Aholes at all...

Ray

09-22-2006, 07:46 AM

I don't see where he wrote Aholes at all...

He did... originally.

JEFFtourCT

09-24-2006, 02:59 AM

He did... originally.

ehh! wrong.. never did.. looked over the whole thread.. not ever did i call anyone an A hole!.

umm "douche".. maybe.. but that was for the reference of spelling nazi's and people who think they know everything and are allowed by CEG LAW to tear the hole out of people who ask innocent questions.

to those who keep coming to this thread to just to pass time.. go to the GD commen interests fourm and start a thread that only allows a one word post..just to get your post count up.. so you can all be cool "hard core CEGers" and "addicted CEGers".. which gives you the right to to be gods and post what ever where ever you want.

stocksvtcontour

09-26-2006, 05:07 PM

to those who keep coming to this thread to just to pass time.. go to the GD commen interests fourm and start a thread that only allows a one word post..just to get your post count up.. so you can all be cool "hard core CEGers" and "addicted CEGers".. which gives you the right to to be gods and post what ever where ever you want.

Has to be over 10 characters, so that would not work.:)
Also CI does not count towards post count.:)

Tourige

09-27-2006, 11:38 AM

ehh! wrong.. never did.. looked over the whole thread.. not ever did i call anyone an A hole!.

umm "douche".. maybe.. but that was for the reference of spelling nazi's and people who think they know everything and are allowed by CEG LAW to tear the hole out of people who ask innocent questions.

to those who keep coming to this thread to just to pass time.. go to the GD commen interests fourm and start a thread that only allows a one word post..just to get your post count up.. so you can all be cool "hard core CEGers" and "addicted CEGers".. which gives you the right to to be gods and post what ever where ever you want.

Welcome to CEG...

JEFFtourCT

09-27-2006, 11:00 PM

i couldn't have said it better...

MapOfTaziFoSho

10-01-2006, 01:25 PM

I don't think I posted in this thread and I really didn't want to simply because this guy was being a complete idiot. You don't understand automobiles, you can't take the time to write complete sentences, and you act like a little baby when people bring these things to your attention. Now, regardless of whether or not members on this board were nice to you, I think you should at least take a step back and look at everything that was said and make an attempt to fix those things in your life. Because people will give you **** for stuff like this your entire life...get over it or GTFO! :rolleyes:

Ginsu

02-05-2007, 05:39 PM

So what you guys are saying is I can't pull my wrx turbo'd engine and swap it into my wife's scion xb?

Beans

02-05-2007, 06:51 PM

So what you guys are saying is I can't pull my wrx turbo'd engine and swap it into my wife's scion xb?

nice job bumping a 4 month old thread for a stupid question, not related to a contour in any shape or form.

JEFFtourCT

02-05-2007, 10:20 PM

i was hopeing this thread was long gone..

BaBySHO419

02-05-2007, 10:37 PM