dual HIDs?

[ahowie]

i have searched around some and didnt find anything.. so sorry if this is a repost.

just got done hightowering my lights and i think im going to put some HIDs in my car i wanted to do the high and low beams..

my question is am i going to have any problems as far as being able to find a place to mount all four ballasts ?

anyone out there have high and low beams? and how did they work out?

[cannondalemtb]

i have searched around some and didnt find anything.. so sorry if this is a repost.

just got done hightowering my lights and i think im going to put some HIDs in my car i wanted to do the high and low beams..

my question is am i going to have any problems as far as being able to find a place to mount all four ballasts ?

anyone out there have high and low beams? and how did they work out?

Mounting the ballasts would not be a problem, but running dual HID's is.

The problem with HID high beams and why you don't see this from the factory is because high beams are rarely on long enough for them to warm up properly. HID's are usually turned on and then shut off for an oncoming car then back on. Or they are often times just flashed at another driver. "flashing" HID's and not allowing them to warm up properly shortens the life of the HID's. They are also not fully bright until the HID's have fully warmed up.

SO..... HID's as high beams are really a waste because you will be shortening the life of them and you probably won't have them on long enough to get them fully bright and worth the money.

[ahowie]

thanks for the help, that does make sense and i didnt realize that even manufacturer HID's are only low beam.

i think im just going to go with silverstar high beams then

[WHEELSPIN]

Mounting the ballasts would not be a problem, but running dual HID's is.

The problem with HID high beams and why you don't see this from the factory is because high beams are rarely on long enough for them to warm up properly. HID's are usually turned on and then shut off for an oncoming car then back on. Or they are often times just flashed at another driver. "flashing" HID's and not allowing them to warm up properly shortens the life of the HID's. They are also not fully bright until the HID's have fully warmed up.

SO..... HID's as high beams are really a waste because you will be shortening the life of them and you probably won't have them on long enough to get them fully bright and worth the money.

Wrong TL's do have HID's low and high, trust me I would know

[cannondalemtb]

Wrong TL's do have HID's low and high, trust me I would know

Are they two seperate bulbs? Or is it BIXENON and the lense actually tilts (liek the XC90)? The Toureg actually uses the same HID bulb, unless you flash quick, then it uses a seperate halogen bulb. It has a seperate projector with a halogen bulb JUST for quick flashes. The other projector is used with an HID bulb for high and low.

[cannondalemtb]

Wrong TL's do have HID's low and high, trust me I would know

I answered the question myself. It's the same bulb, trust me I would know:
2007 ACURA TL
High & low beam headlamp
HID-D2S

Straight from the sylvania website.

[Berkel]

You aren't doing projectors, so there's no need to go into explaining bixenons. They actually use a moving shield.

Just get low beams, you can keep your normal highs if you want.

[teamSVTour]

I have HID lows and HID fogs....does that count :laugh:

[ahowie]

hid fogs thats sweet.. maybe that what i should look into.

[ahowie]

alright so after reading the lighting FAQ i see that i need to use relays, so if i put a set of HID's in my low beams and a set of HID's in my fogs i need to separate relays?.

and the relay will make it so i can have the lights on without my car running right?

[contourspd98]

Factory HIDs on low are just as bright as a car with halogen high beams on... Like stated before, vehicles with projectors have a shield that folds down to produce light up high...

[ExDelayed]

SO..... HID's as high beams are really a waste because you will be shortening the life of them and you probably won't have them on long enough to get them fully bright and worth the money.
When I had the projector setup on my old `96 I had put HID highs into it. I did it mainly because I was chicken to chop up the 90mm Hella lows and couldnt afford to buy a new one if I made a mistake. I did it to the 90mm highs because I could still drive the car even if I had screwed up.

What I found? The HIDs in the 90mm highs were just awesome. After just six months of use I was able to notice a very marked difference in performance. The 'normal' HID flash when the bulb is first turned on wasnt there any more. Instead now I had a much more reddish-pink flash that would settle back to HID white, it took longer for them to reach the proper color as well. The beam pattern started to suffer too because the ends of the electrodes were now round instead of pointed. It was neat, but it was a waste of bulbs. I wouldnt do it again.

alright so after reading the lighting FAQ i see that i need to use relays, so if i put a set of HID's in my low beams and a set of HID's in my fogs i need to separate relays?.

and the relay will make it so i can have the lights on without my car running right?
Yes you do. They are different circuits, they need their own relays. Keep in mind that the HID bulbs *need* a certain amount of power to operate. When the vehicle isnt running, the power drain becomes greater because the ballast much use more juice to step the power up higher. The lower the input voltage, the more the draw. A halogen will just dim as the battery power drops, HID will not.

If the car is off, turn off the headlights.

[CKtour98]

I also have (8k) headlight+foglight H.I.D.s...i've never had to use my highbeams with them..and it wasnt hard mounting 4 ballasts, the trick was just mounting the fog ballasts somewhere sturdy!

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