My Car VS. 1998 Honda Civic

[96Mystique]

My buddy just bought a car, a 1998 Honda Civic EX to be exact. The car has a 1.6L SOHC motor. The mods on it are a short ram air intake, headers, and a cheapo eBay muffler. It has a 5 speed manual. The car is decently fast, with the right driver. He drove me to the gas station to pick up some brake fluid, and was 'hot rodding' it all the way there. It got up to speed pretty fast, but nothing too impressive. I told him I would race (legally, we have a road race that my town shuts down a certain area of the main road so people can show off there cars, ect. ect.) The other day he was saying his car would smack my 1996 Mercury Mystique, with the 2.0L Zetec. My mods are a TRUE cold air intake (to be installed) and a custom cat-back exhaust. I drove him up to a local parts store and I was getting on to the interstate, and he made a comment, 'Yeah, this car can't touch my car', so I got on the gas getting on to the interstate, all he did was stop talking. Mind you, currently my car is fully stock, with an automatic transmission, but I still can get up to speed quicker than his Honda, but I don't know if I can get to the speeds he can. We just got off the phone, and he mentioned something about the race, and a wager, I told him I would have to figure something out, and for him to figure out what he would want to happen, if I lose. I'm fairly certain that my car will get his in this little race, so I'm thinking I may wager a $700 tool chest that I've had for a few years, if he can't figure out what he would want. I know he'll like that idea, since he's been looking for a cheap one, and has been asking about mine. I'm wanting to know what you all would ask for/have him put on the line for this bet? He has an air compressor setup that I could use for my sheds to keep them air ready for whenever I start doing more Car Audio installs, and car repairs. He got it for free, so I know he wouldn't care too much about getting rid of it, do you all think this would be a good demand?

Also, I'm needing to know what you all think, who may win this little race. Plus a little input on maybe getting a better run on him, just incase you all think my car doesn't have the 'balls.'

[AliasJerk]

these threads are lame.

and if your car were a stick I would say you, but the civic has you on this one. a Stock EX with a 5 speed can run a low 17 in the quarter, and that motor is very friendly to bolt on mods, he probably is in the high 16's and the automatic Zetec contour runs about an 18 second quarter mile stock, and modding with a slushbox really wont give you much better, hector had a heavily modded Automatic zetec contour, including a supercharger, and he never even made it into the 15's in the quarter. Just gives you an idea of how hard it is to make an automatic zetec get moving.

[99Mystique ATX]

How good of a driver is he?? If he sucks you *MAY* have a chance....

Pull off a good solid launch and hope that he screws up... You're going to have to launch the car hard. If you've never been to a real track you're going to want to practice. Best way to launch an auto (what got my nearly stock v6/auto to a 16.4) is to drive 2-footed... Left foot on the brakes, right foot on the gas... Hold the brakes as hard as you can and push the gas pedal down till just before the car starts to creep... At the green light, you floor it and let off the brakes.

Actually, now that I think about it, I ran a 16.3 in the Mystique. But, that's off topic... ;)

[96Mystique]

He's a :censored::censored::censored::censored:ty driver. Last time he attempted to 'burn out,' he went into a ditch. The wheel had caught, and he just kept on it trying to show off, now he has a huge dent in his fender! I drive '2-footed' all the time. I think I'm going to get some 'practice' runs in, just to see what my car will actually do, then have my buddy come over and have him do some runs.

[MLuko]

see if you can do a race from 70+ you'll make him look real stupid from those speeds! well even 40

[96Mystique]

That's not really possible, as it's only a 1/4 closed down, and 30 feet for line ups, and tire warming. The 40 is possible, as the interstate is right next to my house, and at them speeds I could keep it just at legal limits.

[Damien]

Switch your mystique with one that looks the same but has the 2.5 with some mods... or lose a tool chest. Or, just plumb up a 75 shot of the juice. : )

[The Five-Oh!]

i know starjammir's old mystique which had some bolt on mods and was an auto 2.5 lost to my auto 4 banger corolla, i ran a 16.9 :laugh:

although when we switched cars i beat my corolla, so i guess starjammir wasn't a good driver at the strip.

[Tourige]

This is like asking which snail will crawl across the leaf faster.

Either way, i think the civac has you.

[bagged]

This is like asking which snail will crawl across the leaf faster.

Either way, i think the civac has you.


gotta admit that one was pretty good tourige:laugh:

[RandyCSVT]

These threads are especially lame when they are in regards to two incredibly slow cars.

Why not just challenge your civic driving friend to a good old fashioned foot race? I guarantee that will provide the both of you with more excitement than racing an ATX zetec with an autozone modified civic.

[mjsvt]

the civic has it sorry

[lunatic]

I hate to sound lame also, but will my 2.5 Duratech ATX Contour with 121K beat the same Civic? This girl at my work drives an 03 Cavalier with an automatic and I'm wandering if my Contour could take her. :-)

[Sinmastah]

My friend has the exact same kind of civic, slow as hell. If you drive with two feet you could pull it off, but make sure you install in the intake. My car almost took an eclipse gs stick shift, with about 200 lbs taken out of it, and my car is the same as yours. My friends civic is just a weak car, if you take some stuff out of yours it might help, spare tire jack, random crap in glove box. Anything you can that you can put back in, makes a difference.

And if I'm looking at this right, his engine should be pumping only 105 HP. While the Zetec is about 127, + Mods

[cnewton44]

I hate to sound lame also, but will my 2.5 Duratech ATX Contour with 121K beat the same Civic? This girl at my work drives an 03 Cavalier with an automatic and I'm wandering if my Contour could take her. :-)
:confused: A Cavalier DOES NOT have the same engine as a Civic.

IIRC most of them come with a 2.2....

[ancientsanskrit]

A GS? BS! I should know, my buddy had a 95 GS and that thing was hitting low 17s and high 16s. With a zetec mtx it's a drivers race...with the atx, no way. That is, unless the guy drives piss poor or had something wrong with his car.

[The Five-Oh!]

My friend has the exact same kind of civic, slow as hell. If you drive with two feet you could pull it off, but make sure you install in the intake. My car almost took an eclipse gs stick shift, with about 200 lbs taken out of it, and my car is the same as yours. My friends civic is just a weak car, if you take some stuff out of yours it might help, spare tire jack, random crap in glove box. Anything you can that you can put back in, makes a difference.

And if I'm looking at this right, his engine should be pumping only 105 HP. While the Zetec is about 127, + Mods

why do you have 200+ lbs of crap in your car?

[Tourige]

why do you have 200+ lbs of crap in your car?

Why are they arguing about which car will get through the 1/4 in 17 seconds...

[csvt2200]

Why are they arguing about which car will get through the 1/4 in 17 seconds...

Couldn't of said it any better myself. Anything "Slower" than 15's in the 1/4 isn't even worth talking about, let alone "Racing" to begin with! :nonono:

[CSVT_2004]

:confused: A Cavalier DOES NOT have the same engine as a Civic.

IIRC most of them come with a 2.2....

Thats the good ol ECOTEC engine... LOL

http://www.eurohand.neostrada.pl/1111/silniki/18ecotec.jpg

[CustomX157]

I've decimated my friends 03 z24 cavalier with my Zetec ATX.

I've also made an accord look silly too.

Don't count the zetec out.

[pre98zetec]

z24 would spank any atx zetec, even a supercharged one.

[Ray]

considering a supercharged one is right at stock SVT levels.. I don't think "spank" is really a good choice of words.

My stock SVT would beat any Z24 I ever ran in to, so.. where are you thinking this from?

[pre98zetec]

considering a supercharged one is right at stock SVT levels.. I don't think "spank" is really a good choice of words.

My stock SVT would beat any Z24 I ever ran in to, so.. where are you thinking this from?a supercharged atx zetec at stock svt levels? maybe on paper.. i beleive hectors ran 16s.

5 speed z24s run in the mid 15s...

[CustomX157]

Well I don't know if the kid is a good driver or what. All I'm saying is I didn't even have to hit 60 to put a car length on him.

[68fordman]

i have a 97 stique 2.5mtx and i can run my buddies 92 eclipse gs mtx all day everyday mine "appears" mostly stock his has CAI and exhaust

[CSVT1214]

i have a 97 stique 2.5mtx and i can run my buddies 92 eclipse gs mtx all day everyday mine "appears" mostly stock his has CAI and exhaust

Wow! I'm impressed.









Not!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_q05qHZyAM&feature=related)

[ubnpast]

is it vtec? my 96 2.5 mtx is the same as my sisters 96 sohc vtec civic, she has said her vtec isnt kickin in, not sure tho. my car would beat an 06 civic ex :), but if i want to race people and go fast i would take my vette out.

[68fordman]

must be nice to have a vette, or is it the cheap ass CHEVETTE with a v8 crammed in it, hmm i have an idea..........

[pre98zetec]

i have a 97 stique 2.5mtx and i can run my buddies 92 eclipse gs mtx all day everyday mine "appears" mostly stock his has CAI and exhaustcongrats:cool: you beat a car with 120hp

[1BadCSVT]

This thread make me laugh! :laugh: :rolleyes:

i can run my buddies 92 eclipse gs mtx all day everyday
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w265/robbyrankin/Funny/DSM.jpg


is it vtec? my 96 2.5 mtx is the same as my sisters 96 sohc vtec civic, she has said her vtec isnt kickin in, not sure tho.
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w265/robbyrankin/Funny/vtecgermans1.jpg

[ubnpast]

must be nice to have a vette, or is it the cheap ass CHEVETTE with a v8 crammed in it, hmm i have an idea..........
hahaha not exactly. 96 collectors edition, lt4, 45k miles, nx nitrous kit with 15lb bottle, slp intake, Exotic Muscle long tubes, 3" slp cat back (currently off because of the header install, and sounds good off).

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p28/ubnpast/DSCF0167.jpg

[rk2k2]

What a shame, putting nitrous on such a nice car!

[RandyCSVT]

What a shame, putting nitrous on such a nice car!

WTF are you talking about? There is nothing wrong with running a nitrous system on any car. All forced induction is equally safe as long as installed and used properly.

Nitrous is a fun way of having on demand horsepower whenever you feel like it. Some people may want an insane amount of horsepower at the track or when joyriding, but not on a regular commute. I would do it on my car. 400hp is enough for me for everyday driving and a nicely set up 100 shot or more would make for extra fun at the track or when joyriding.

[ubnpast]

What a shame, putting nitrous on such a nice car!

I like power :shrug: . Stock they said it was underrated at 340 ft lbs of tq., so people would buy the c5 (new body style stating in 97 with 350 hp). so figure 370 hp plus a 150 shot :).

[rk2k2]

Hey, I'm just old I guess. Thinking about it, I'd have to say I'm pretty much like my parents or my grandfather at my age- "why the heck you doing THAT to your car? That's not the way it was designed and your runining it"!

Anyway, probably been in the last 5 years that I've had this appreciation for cars being left pretty much stock. I had a hard enough time deciding upon the 3.0 route vs leaving at 2.5

[TST-MT-CSVT#4923]

wow .. another civic race. When are they ever going to stop:shrug:

[pre98zetec]

wow .. another civic race. When are they ever going to stop:shrug:when people finally realize there economy cars and not race cars.

[Ray]

when people finally realize there economy cars and not race cars.



I, personally, beg to differ. ;)

Besides, even with my car out of the picture, the Contour is a sport sedan, not an economy car. There are certainly BETTER cars to get for mileage.

[elraido]

I, personally, beg to differ. ;)

Besides, even with my car out of the picture, the Contour is a sport sedan, not an economy car. There are certainly BETTER cars to get for mileage.

pssst. he was talking about the civic and not the tour

[Ray]

His statement was in reply to "wow .. another civic race. When are they ever going to stop"...
"they" being the one that raced the civic.

So, he said that "they" will stop when "they" realize they are economy cars.

[pre98zetec]

Considering there was no mention of another car (make,model) in his post, I would think I was talking about a civic...

[Ray]

HAHA... either way, its still a civic, regardless of how he meant it.. :cool:

[imurdaddytoo sport]

the question to ask here is y would anyone ever take a 4cyl contique to a 1/4mile track. Nothing in the end except disappointment

[pre98zetec]

the question to ask here is y would anyone ever take a 4cyl contique to a 1/4mile track. Nothing in the end except disappointmentI'd like to see you say that to striker2 :laugh:

[striker2]

I'd like to see you say that to striker2 :laugh:
He hasnt seen the turbo zetec in action yet or he wouldnt have said that.

[The Five-Oh!]

He hasnt seen the turbo zetec in action yet or he wouldnt have said that.

or would he? :laugh:

[striker2]

or would he? :laugh:
its probably as fast or faster than most NA 3L's on this site. :P:D:D

[The Five-Oh!]

well i won't doubt that given the people who own 3L's :laugh:

[cobrawannabe]

Zetecs will hold a 6 with a good driver and a smart setup. And lots of money. We're downm on power, but we're not out of it.