How in the hell...?

[Klasse Act]

...does the new Skyline GT-R run the quarter mile at 11.7-149 mph w/AWD, 480 hp and weighing in at 3800 lbs:shrug: The E.T. and mph do not add up, sorry:rolleyes: I like how its on the cover of the car mag and it says "Vette Killer", again it shows who's king...ZO6 FTW! Now don't get me wrong, the car looks killer and is surely a blast to drive, but where are they getting these numbers from...GTech Pro:confused:

[Reebs]

What is wrong with those numbers? Why don't they add up Roger?

[SVTJON87]

does the g-tech pro really work? lololol

[striker2]

What is wrong with those numbers? Why don't they add up Roger?
well based on my calcu...er...guestimate, with the power and rate that roger said, it should be about 11.6 @ 121.9 MPH

[Reebs]

well based on my calcu...er...guestimate, with the power and rate that roger said, it should be about 11.6 @ 121.9 MPH

I'd think it would trap higher than that.

[99Mystique ATX]

Maybe so, but 149mph seems awfully high...

[Klasse Act]

What is wrong with those numbers? Why don't they add up Roger?

Well, a C6 ZO6/Viper SRT-10 runs the quarter mile in the high 11's at about 125-127 and its got MORE hp, MORE torque and weighs LESS, alot less, like 500-600 lbs less. I'm not doggin' the Skyline at all, trust me the car is smokin' hot, but I think something is wrong with their testing computers:rolleyes: Oh yeah and the price of that car at $80K, well, we'll see about that when it actually comes over here.

[Beans]

hmm only thing i can think of is if they have some new 4wd technology that gives you a 4wd launch then puts the power to the rear :shrug: i dunno.. just a thought.

[Klasse Act]

hmm only thing i can think of is if they have some new 4wd technology that gives you a 4wd launch then puts the power to the rear :shrug: i dunno.. just a thought.


If the car were real light, geared differently and had another 150 hp I could believe the numbers, but they don't make any logical sense:shrug:

[Klasse Act]

http://chrisnz.com/r35-gtr-skyline-vspec-evo-spec/

The videos are awesome on this!!!

[beyondloadedSE]

With AWD, 149 mph trap speed would put the Skyline into the high 8s/low 9s 1/4 mile time. To me, I bet its around 115-117 mph. FWIW, the Noble M400 runs 11.3-11.4 @ 120-121 mph. I dont see the Skyline trapping in the 120s, especially with AWD.

[Pudmunkie]

hmm only thing i can think of is if they have some new 4wd technology that gives you a 4wd launch then puts the power to the rear :shrug: i dunno.. just a thought.

Its not new, its a progression of the ATTESA E-TS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATTESA_E-TS) found in earlier skylines. The current system is capable of sending 50 percent of the power to the front wheels on heavy acceleration at low speeds, but will normally not exceed 30% and is biased towards the rear.

Well, a C6 ZO6/Viper SRT-10 runs the quarter mile in the high 11's at about 125-127 and its got MORE hp, MORE torque and weighs LESS, alot less, like 500-600 lbs less. I'm not doggin' the Skyline at all, trust me the car is smokin' hot, but I think something is wrong with their testing computers:rolleyes: Oh yeah and the price of that car at $80K, well, we'll see about that when it actually comes over here.

What the Nissan lacks in power, and weight advantages it makes up for in techno-tomfoolery. Though I agree that 149 is more than likely a typo.

I should mention that the press has driven the current car, but are currently under a contract not to release anything on the GT-R regarding driving impressions, and to that end I would assume their own tests / test equipment. The numbers and specifications they print are given to them by Nissan.

[TGO]

http://chrisnz.com/r35-gtr-skyline-vspec-evo-spec/

The videos are awesome on this!!!


i like how the first vid says "Porsche's worst nightmare" meanwhile, the GT-R is following the porsche around the track the whole time...doesn't sound too intimidating to me!

[Klasse Act]

Well said Pud;)

It seems Porsche and Corvette are the targets for everything coming out these days. I thought I read somewhere that the current C5 is going to get the S/C'd LS6 to "send it out with a bang", so that's going to be fun. I also read or saw something on tv where they're (Corvette engineers) adding weight to the rear end of the car so it can hook better:shocked: Its good to be King...


Porsche is an icon and will always raise the bar, Dodge and its production of the Viper since 92' is coming along nicely and the Corvette is always either right in the mix or ahead of its competition overall. Hey Ford, where you at:shrug: "Fraud GT", nice production run, probably should've spent the money on something else besides a "tribute car":troutslap:

[Y2KSVT]

Hey Ford, where you at:shrug: "Fraud GT"

WTF are you talking about? :confused:

Mark

[The Five-Oh!]

I thought I read somewhere that the current C5 is going to get the S/C'd LS6 to "send it out with a bang", so that's going to be fun.

do you mean the C6?

[MxRacer]

roger is just all kinds of effed up in this thread. :laugh:


but yes, that trap speed is WAAAAAAAYYYYYY too high. i thought the same thing when i saw it.

[TourDeForce]

Porsche is an icon and will always raise the bar, Dodge and its production of the Viper since 92' is coming along nicely and the Corvette is always either right in the mix or ahead of its competition overall. Hey Ford, where you at:shrug: "Fraud GT", nice production run, probably should've spent the money on something else besides a "tribute car":troutslap:

Seems to me the Mustang is doing rather well on the tracks and in the showroom, Roger. Pretty much the point of building a capable car, and Ford is doing for half the price.

I do see your point, but Ford seems to have a different strategy going into the new millenium. Frankly, I'd rather see a stripped down version of the mkZ with options for turbo on the D35, AWD, and maaaaaybe manual gear box. Fusion with attitude kinda thing. Perhaps save some cost & do the turbo D35 in a RWD platform - BMW killer Milan version...

[Livinsvt]

roger is just all kinds of effed up in this thread. :laugh:


but yes, that trap speed is WAAAAAAAYYYYYY too high. i thought the same thing when i saw it.

Ya, I was gonna say they haven't made a c5 or one with an ls6 going on 3 years lol.

The data everywere on this car seems iffy. They fact that its faster than the z06 on the ring sounds strange to me. Not that Nissan couldn't do it. But the lightest configured z06 is almost 700lbs lighter and has 70 more horse power. Doesn't add up. Technology can only make you so much faster. That AWD system would be the only deciding factor, if that is the case, it must be one hell of a system.

[Klasse Act]

Ya, I was gonna say they haven't made a c5 or one with an ls6 going on 3 years lol.

The data everywere on this car seems iffy. They fact that its faster than the z06 on the ring sounds strange to me. Not that Nissan couldn't do it. But the lightest configured z06 is almost 700lbs lighter and has 70 more horse power. Doesn't add up. Technology can only make you so much faster. That AWD system would be the only deciding factor, if that is the case, it must be one hell of a system.

Thanks and well said Livin'!

[TGO]

Seems to me the Mustang is doing rather well on the tracks and in the showroom, Roger. Pretty much the point of building a capable car, and Ford is doing for half the price.




doing what for half price? stock GT does not compare in any way, shape or form to a C6 vette...even a base model. The Cobra, while nice, is only fast in a straight line. and at 45+k i wouldn't cal lthat half the price.

i'd save for a few more months and get the better car, which is the vette.

[biminiLX]

This is obviously a typo, probably should be 119mph.
Absolutely impossible to run that trap with that power/weight.
Play with some online power/weight/gear calculators if you doubt this.
I geared my LX to clear the traps at 145ish and it should have no problems doing this with a 3.50 gear, 3300#, and 800hp.
Sweet looking car though, I just read about it in the recent C&D.
-J

[Klasse Act]

Don't get me wrong, the new, upcoming GT-R is:drool: :drool: :drool:

[200SVT]

well what gearing does the skyline have? Some cars have fast ET and low MPH, like some civics I see at the tracks, they run in the tens with little over 100mph. This can be true for the skylines ET, because if you compare ctwo cars with same ET's they would not always have the same MPH.

[MxRacer]

well what gearing does the skyline have? Some cars have fast ET and low MPH, like some civics I see at the tracks, they run in the tens with little over 100mph. This can be true for the skylines ET, because if you compare ctwo cars with same ET's they would not always have the same MPH.


lmfao... i'd love to see a true 10 second car that only traps just above 100 mph. if you happen to see such a thing, it was a low 9 second car that shutdown half track.


you're just a fountain of misinformation, aren't you?

[200SVT]

so you (MXracer) are saying that a civic running 10's are running over 135? don't think so there little guy!!!!!!!!!!!!:shrug:

[The Five-Oh!]

are you calling 135mph trap speed as a "little over" 100 trap?

[MapOfTaziFoSho]

so you (MXracer) are saying that a civic running 10's are running over 135? don't think so there little guy!!!!!!!!!!!!:shrug:

WHO THE :censored::censored::censored::censored: ARE YOU?!!!


LOLOLOLOLOL :laugh:


Here's a video of a civic running an 10.8x at 139mph...asshole! :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osejdEOb6_s

You must still be in High school.

[MxRacer]

so you (MXracer) are saying that a civic running 10's are running over 135? don't think so there little guy!!!!!!!!!!!!:shrug:


more with the little guy stuff? do you want to see my "little guy"? i'm sure he'll be happy to leave a nice mushroom print on your forehead.

let me know when you remove your head from your posterior. a 14 second car traps 100mph.

[bagged]

hahahahahaha little guy:laugh: .........awsome

[Ray]

One:
all the language, and anatomy references are DONE... period.

two:
nobody wants to see ANYTHING from ANYONE's "little guy".

three: I've trapped 108 AND 102 and ran mid 13's each time..

[Loco4G63]

Ya, I was gonna say they haven't made a c5 or one with an ls6 going on 3 years lol.

The data everywere on this car seems iffy. They fact that its faster than the z06 on the ring sounds strange to me. Not that Nissan couldn't do it. But the lightest configured z06 is almost 700lbs lighter and has 70 more horse power. Doesn't add up. Technology can only make you so much faster. That AWD system would be the only deciding factor, if that is the case, it must be one hell of a system.AWD systems now are really high tech. Step above a simple transfer case and front and rear diff. Everything is done to obtain the highest level of grip in all situations. That is the difference.

[MxRacer]

AWD systems now are really high tech. Step above a simple transfer case and front and rear diff. Everything is done to obtain the highest level of grip in all situations. That is the difference.


there is nothing an awd system can do in that car to net that high of a trap speed. zilch. zip. nada.

[Loco4G63]

there is nothing an awd system can do in that car to net that high of a trap speed. zilch. zip. nada.Wasn't talking about the trap speed....talking about the cars abilities on the Ring.:shrug:

[MxRacer]

Wasn't talking about the trap speed....talking about the cars abilities on the Ring.:shrug:


well this thread is aboot trap speed, dammit! :laugh:

[Loco4G63]

well this thread is aboot trap speed, dammit! :laugh:I quoted the comment about the Ring dammit!:laugh:

[MxRacer]

I quoted the comment about the Ring dammit!:laugh:


and i ignored it, dammit! :laugh:

[281Thunder]

A friend of mine was talking to me about this last night actually...didn't know there was a thread going on about it here. We both agreed that 149 is way too high. One of our friends has a boosted 00 SS that has trapped 151 in the quarter with an ET of 9.7. I think they maybe got an ET and then pulled a trap speed out of a hat.

[biminiLX]

I think they maybe got an ET and then pulled a trap speed out of a hat.
No, probably not.
The ET would match a trap speed of about 119, so most likely a typo---149 instead of 119.
-J

[Klasse Act]

lmfao... i'd love to see a true 10 second car that only traps just above 100 mph. if you happen to see such a thing, it was a low 9 second car that shutdown half track.


you're just a fountain of misinformation, aren't you?

Unfiretruckin' believable Dave:laugh:

Yeah, I too would love to see a car run something like a 10.25@101:rolleyes: I remember one time I was in the waterbox w/ the GN and got too much water up in the wheelwells and launched the car and it spun for half the track and in the meantime I was waiting for it to "hook", but the only thing it did was head towards the guardrail:eek: So I got out of it, hit the gas at half track and ran a, IIRC, a 14.8@100.

This "fountain of misinformation" is almost banable or a good source of laughter:laugh:

[D13]

Not too far fetched. Depends on the power spread. Guy at the track the other day had a turboed 4. Seems like everything was tuned for top end. Out of the whole, the car got left behind. But once the turbo spooled and the motor got on top it pulled like mad. Quarter track he was a full length behind. Half was almost even. Three quarters was a car ahead and finished strong. Medium ET but high trap.

[biminiLX]

D13:
Not sure what you meant by not too far fetched. The 149mph trap of the new Skyline is too far fetched, no question.
I understand turbo cars can and usually have higher traps compared to nitrous/blower cars....I'm building one actually.
However, to think this production car could trap that speed in the 1/4 mile is not possible.
-J

[Livinsvt]

AWD systems now are really high tech. Step above a simple transfer case and front and rear diff. Everything is done to obtain the highest level of grip in all situations. That is the difference.

I am aware of how the systems work these days. Matched with the stability control, it must be some amazing stuff. Impressive to say the least. :cool:

[Klasse Act]

D13:
Not sure what you meant by not too far fetched. The 149mph trap of the new Skyline is too far fetched, no question.
I understand turbo cars can and usually have higher traps compared to nitrous/blower cars....I'm building one actually.
However, to think this production car could trap that speed in the 1/4 mile is not possible.
-J

Someone call "Myth Busters":help: :help: :help:

[ChattavegasSE]

I'd take those magazine tests for a grain of salt. Case in point, Road & Track puts the MazdaSpeed6 and 3 within .2s of each other on the 1/4 mile, but some how or other, their test MS6 took over 24s to go 0-100 whereas the test MS3 did it in just 15s. THAT doesn't add up; MS6 goes 0-89 in 15s, and 89-100 in another 10s? :nonono:

[MapOfTaziFoSho]

I'd take those magazine tests for a grain of salt. Case in point, Road & Track puts the MazdaSpeed6 and 3 within .2s of each other on the 1/4 mile, but some how or other, their test MS6 took over 24s to go 0-100 whereas the test MS3 did it in just 15s. THAT doesn't add up; MS6 goes 0-89 in 15s, and 89-100 in another 10s? :nonono:



AWD :blackeye:

[ChattavegasSE]

0-60 in .1s slower, 0-100 in 10s slower? :rolleyes:

[Loco4G63]

0-60 in .1s slower, 0-100 in 10s slower? :rolleyes:It is just because you have one.:laugh:

[ChattavegasSE]

Apparantly. For fear of going to banned camp, I can say that I think I can run 0-100 in less than 25s; despite what R&T says. :P

I just found Car and Driver test the MS6 0-100 in 15s; yet Road and Track lists over 24s for the same test. Screw these magazines! :crazy:

[Pale Horse]

Trap speed is stupid wrong in this case. Agreed.
However, the Attesa AWD system and this new adaptation of it is a miraculous thing. This is a four corner torque and brake-biasing system that also employs active body control including yaw rate to determine the split of the drive wheels (active Center Diff) and the biasing of power. I wouldn't doubt this thing is a monster on the Ring.