View Full Version : Can the SVT beat him?
CSVTkid
10-23-2007, 05:19 PM
a kid at my school has a GST Eclipse and i thinks its year is a 96, is it overall faster then my stock 99 contour svt, im thinking it can but not sure...........
ha this is all the stuff i ripped from his myspace
t/3 t/4 60 trim turbo
hks bov
front mount with custom piping
255 walbro fuel pump
550cc injectors
turbonetics manfiold
38mm wastegate
turbo xs boost controler
apexi safc2
sloted rotors 2.5 exhaust all they way through
new tranny
act 2 stage clutch
aftermarket shift bushings
deep cycle
injen intake
17inch motegi mr rims
slotted rotors
CSVT1214
10-23-2007, 05:20 PM
You lose.
End of story.
CSVTkid
10-23-2007, 05:27 PM
You lose.
End of story.
ha that bad, i thought these cars were faster then most cars its age
EuroTour
10-23-2007, 05:29 PM
Not cars with turbos! :troutslap:
1BadCSVT
10-23-2007, 05:37 PM
Not cars with turbos and Awd! :troutslap:
GST = FWD........GSX = AWD. Just a little FYI.
Also to answer the orginal question, no your SVT will not beat a slightly moded GST. Your only hope is that with his mods he has a sh*tty tune and that the 7-bolt crank walks like a mother f*cker, then maybe you will win. Don't get me wrong the SVT's are semi quick, but they are by far not the fastest thing on the street.
shavedsvt
10-23-2007, 05:39 PM
well look at it this way. my friend has a tsi talon. we put a 16g big turbo on it with a vta bov, so his computer is freaking out all the time about lost metered air, and an after market exhaust, and its right the with my 3L yes my 3L is only 9:1 static compression but hes running at 10 psi. a front mount and solid piping will make a big difference. unless he doesnt know how to drive the thing HE WILL WALK YOU! especially if its AWD and not like my friends FWD.
EDIT: rob you beat me to it..... but my friends is a 7 bolt and its fine does it help that it only has 56k on it lol. yes 7 bolts are worse but were trying to make a 7 bolt tsi talon haul so we are the only ones that dont do a 6 bolt swap.
P.S. to reiterate everything........................................ ....HE WILL WALK YOU LIKE A POODLE!!!!!!
elraido
10-23-2007, 05:40 PM
The two cars are fairly similar stock perfomance wise. But all those cars need is a boost controler and it is over. Just pray that something breaks while he is driving it if you want to win
limeyscott
10-23-2007, 05:44 PM
Watched a GSX scatter its 7 bolt all over the 1/4 mile once..........was an amazing thing. Guy claims his boost guage hit 28#...........not sure about that one considering stock turbo.
shavedsvt
10-23-2007, 05:47 PM
stock turbo peaks at i think 12 psi IIRC
beyondloadedSE
10-23-2007, 05:51 PM
stock turbo peaks at i think 12 psi IIRC
yeah, but thats not the stock turbo. Thats the turbo I was running on my contour.
You'll lose badly.
limeyscott
10-23-2007, 05:51 PM
got a friend with a 1G TSI w/ stock turbo........claims it will hit 15 if he really pushes.....dunno though!
elraido
10-23-2007, 06:00 PM
yeah, but thats not the stock turbo. Thats the turbo I was running on my contour.
You'll lose badly.
Isn't that the stock turbo on a 96+?
beyondloadedSE
10-23-2007, 06:03 PM
Isn't that the stock turbo on a 96+?
I mean, it could be. I dont know much about eclipses. Maybe I'm missing something, but that turbo will make 450 hp easily.
shavedsvt
10-23-2007, 06:06 PM
no stock turbos for eclipses talons lasers is the t-25
elraido
10-23-2007, 06:06 PM
I mean, it could be. I dont know much about eclipses. Maybe I'm missing something, but that turbo will make 450 hp easily.
I know they changed them from the 1G DSM's turbos. They went to a smaller, faster spooling turbo but it didn't make as much power as the first one. Time to look it up again....haven't messed with DSM's in a while LOL
shavedsvt
10-23-2007, 06:07 PM
got a friend with a 1G TSI w/ stock turbo........claims it will hit 15 if he really pushes.....dunno though!
my friend ran a personal best of 15.2 with his stock talon before we started modding it.
EDIT: do you mean times or boost. if your talking about boost its called creep i believe. it would peak at 15 but go down to 12. most stock turbos for these cars do this.
limeyscott
10-23-2007, 06:13 PM
my friend ran a personal best of 15.2 with his stock talon before we started modding it.
EDIT: do you mean times or boost. if your talking about boost its called creep i believe. it would peak at 15 but go down to 12. most stock turbos for these cars do this.
Boost......and yeah, about the creep thing, thats what he said.
TRicker
10-23-2007, 06:15 PM
my friend had a 1g plymouth laser rs turbo. he had an upgraded turbo on it. i believe a ported 14b or 14g w/e they are. its one size up from stock and the housing was reworked to be considered a "big" dsm factory turbo. w/e. anyways, he boosted it up to 15 psi. was dead even to my 2.5 SVT and a 50 shot. that was when my motor was really healty. i had all the bolt ons and he just had the turbo and a cat-back. his car spun through the first two gears though so that's how i stayed with him. he caught me at about 100 (end of the 1/4)
dairdevyld
10-23-2007, 07:07 PM
Unfortunately not even some of the heavily modded tours can compete with a slightly modded DSM. My roommate runs a 20g turbo upgraded from a t-25, a catback exhaust and a boost controller basically and he pulls me everywhere as soon as he spools. I've seen him take down M3's, Cobra's, even some stock Vettes. His car is easily a mid-12 sec car, and it's still only fwd with no lsd. An awd version would do twice the damage because it can actually gain traction. These cars have the same iron blocked turbo engine found in the Evo's up until the IX's they are very quick and hard to beat with any contour, so watch out. I fyou really wanna take one out try taking them through some corners or doing some top speed runs. They can't handle very well, even the AWD versions, and they're top speed limited to 130 I believe. Plus in my roommates car anything over 100mph feels like body panels or floorboards are gonna start ripping off.:laugh:
shavedsvt
10-23-2007, 08:04 PM
very fast and the furious sounding!
1BadCSVT
10-23-2007, 08:45 PM
His car is easily a mid-12 sec car, and it's still only fwd with no lsd. An awd version would do twice the damage because it can actually gain traction. If you really wanna take one out try taking them through some corners or doing some top speed runs. They can't handle very well, even the AWD versions, and they're top speed limited to 130 I believe. Plus in my roommates car anything over 100mph feels like body panels or floorboards are gonna start ripping off.:laugh:
1) Is this a 12 sec car with slips to prove it or is this in your opinion? Cause I've been in a lot of "12 sec DSM's" which in reality are 13-14 sec cars if they even make it down the track.
2) "Twice the damage", so are we looking at a 6 sec car if it was AWD? Lets be honest, its all in the driver along with the set up.
3) They actually don't handle to bad, I would suggest a set of Eibach's/Tein's and some sort of adjustable strut. This would make it handle just as well as the SVT's. Now don't get me wrong the SVT's are great handling cars, but the BAT kits make them even better. Plus DSM's can do long sweeping right hand turns at high speeds, where the Contour fails. See even Ford has there faults.
4) Who cares that a DSM can make it up to 130mph? Where are you really going to go to get up to speeds that fast and be safe about it? Stupid moves like this are how people get hurt, trust me on this. Don't risk others for a d*ck measuring contest.
5) Of course at 100mph a DSM would feel like it's going to fall apart, it's a DSM!!!! They aren't a Bentley or Caddy.
MOST IMPORTANTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!
A 14b is a stock DSM turbo!!!!
Thank you, rant over.
dairdevyld
10-23-2007, 10:07 PM
14b was the stock turbo on DSM's until 1995 then they switched to a t25 for faster spool-up and better driveability.
Twice the damage is a relative comparison it wasn't literal, WTH is wrong with you? Haven't you ever had someone use an exaggerated comparison? What blasphemy did I spew saying that DSM's can't handle or at least not as well as an SVT contour? It's true. What are you an idiot? SVT's have a higher top end then DSM's at least stock/lightly modded ones. Please do some research and have a real point before you go on another retarded rant.
As for my roommates car, no i don't have slips. But is it hard to believe that someone can have a 12 second eclipse without slips? I don't know what the deal is down in philly but here in CT it's almost assumed that any turbo elcipse/talon/laser is close to if not already a 12 sec car. For more reference look at my roommates mod list or visit our local DSM website. They'll definitely quell any qualms you have with my info.
www.ccdsm.net (http://www.ccdsm.net)
http://ccsucarclub.7.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=1120
shavedsvt
10-24-2007, 01:54 AM
woah now dont go getting your panties in a bunch. now you know deep down that everyone hates dsm's. to prove my point ive copied a sig from your friends profile:
DSM's: Turning normal people into wrench throwing alcoholics since 1989
from this what can we get besides that he has a decently modified DSM. what does DSM stand for
1.) devour's **** monthly
2.) disappoints some morons
3.) devour's some motors
from these we know DSM's are nothin but trouble. yes its a quick dsm but its like being in the special olympics, even if you win your still retarted.
now for you who think im harsh with words i appoligize, i just thought id break the tension. calm down, take a breath, and relax.
98SVTC
10-24-2007, 04:50 AM
a kid at my school has a GST Eclipse and i thinks its year is a 96, is it overall faster then my stock 99 contour svt, im thinking it can but not sure...........I don't know...it just seems funny that with one exception, none of your mods even concern the drivetrain and then you stack your list against this guy's. :crazy: Maybe it's just me.
Karl
1BadCSVT
10-25-2007, 05:28 PM
14b was the stock turbo on DSM's until 1995 then they switched to a t25 for faster spool-up and better driveability.
Twice the damage is a relative comparison it wasn't literal, WTH is wrong with you? Haven't you ever had someone use an exaggerated comparison? What blasphemy did I spew saying that DSM's can't handle or at least not as well as an SVT contour? It's true. What are you an idiot? SVT's have a higher top end then DSM's at least stock/lightly modded ones. Please do some research and have a real point before you go on another retarded rant.
As for my roommates car, no i don't have slips. But is it hard to believe that someone can have a 12 second eclipse without slips? I don't know what the deal is down in philly but here in CT it's almost assumed that any turbo elcipse/talon/laser is close to if not already a 12 sec car. For more reference look at my roommates mod list or visit our local DSM website. They'll definitely quell any qualms you have with my info.
What the hell is wrong with me? Well nothing really, I have a beautiful g/f, wonderful family & friends, and a great job...though I do enjoy e-thuggin on the side. None the less; yes I have heard of an "over exaggerated comparison", but I just just wanted to see if it was a high HP monster or just the usual exaggeration. As far as my retarded rant and having a point, I'm pretty sure I made fine points, but if you would like to point out my "retarded" ones I would love to clear them up for you. Also yes it is hard for me to believe that your roommates car is a 12 sec car with out proof. I've heard so many DSMers telling me "how fast and how much HP their car is", when in reality its the most poorly built thing I've ever seen. So to clairify, yes I do not believe what I can not see. Lastly I'm not sure what the deal is down here in Philly either, I've only been here about 2 months. I'm from the other side of the state. I'll see if I can find out the deal here though, and you do the same. I do know that it's a pretty dirty city and there are a lot of murders, but not that every DSM here is a 12 sec car.....that's just reality.
elraido
10-25-2007, 06:01 PM
What the hell is wrong with me? Well nothing really, I have a beautiful g/f, wonderful family & friends, and a great job...though I do enjoy e-thuggin on the side. None the less; yes I have heard of an "over exaggerated comparison", but I just just wanted to see if it was a high HP monster or just the usual exaggeration. As far as my retarded rant and having a point, I'm pretty sure I made fine points, but if you would like to point out my "retarded" ones I would love to clear them up for you. Also yes it is hard for me to believe that your roommates car is a 12 sec car with out proof. I've heard so many DSMers telling me "how fast and how much HP their car is", when in reality its the most poorly built thing I've ever seen. So to clairify, yes I do not believe what I can not see. Lastly I'm not sure what the deal is down here in Philly either, I've only been here about 2 months. I'm from the other side of the state. I'll see if I can find out the deal here though, and you do the same. I do know that it's a pretty dirty city and there are a lot of murders, but not that every DSM here is a 12 sec car.....that's just reality.
You do realize they are low 15 sec to high 14 sec cars stock...correct? A boost controler can get them down to low mid 14 secs. A simple turbo and intercooler upgrade with injectors and some exhaust work with good driving is all that is needed to hit low 13's.
1BadCSVT
10-25-2007, 06:59 PM
You do realize they are low 15 sec to high 14 sec cars stock...correct? A boost controler can get them down to low mid 14 secs. A simple turbo and intercooler upgrade with injectors and some exhaust work with good driving is all that is needed to hit low 13's.
Yes I do know that. However, not every DSM owner has the money for a different turbo and a front mount. Nor do they know who and where to get them correctly tuned once they do get the money for these mods. i.e. They get the mods, but aren't getting everything out of them. Also just like you (and I've said before) a good driver is needed.
EuroTour
10-25-2007, 08:12 PM
FYI. We had a dyno day a few years back, and the guy doing the tuning strapped a beat ass, stock, mid-90's eclipse he just picked for his girlfriend to the rollers and put down 230 to the wheels...
1BadCSVT
10-26-2007, 04:42 PM
FYI. We had a dyno day a few years back, and the guy doing the tuning strapped a beat ass, stock, mid-90's eclipse he just picked for his girlfriend to the rollers and put down 230 to the wheels...
What kind of dyno? Cause it was reading high unless the car had slight mods to it and the guy was bluffing that it was stock. Stock 2G's has 210hp and 1G's had 195hp. This was what the factory said, so we all know once it got to wheels it wasn't that much. Just like Ford claimed the SVT's had 195-200hp depending on the year and they definitely weren't making that on the dyno's.
Believe me I'm not trying to say your lying, rather that the dyno was off or the owner was lying that it was stock.
Tourige
10-26-2007, 04:45 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/l337raceryo/crankwalk.jpg
drivebymashing
10-27-2007, 12:31 PM
i hate "dsms" they suck big time
i would rather drive a 90 model mustang with a 4 cylinder
than a gay eclipse
just my opinion
EuroTour
10-29-2007, 05:13 PM
And nobody cares about your opinion when you say it with that much slander. Judas! :rolleyes:
elraido
10-29-2007, 05:27 PM
i hate "dsms" they suck big time
i would rather drive a 90 model mustang with a 4 cylinder
than a gay eclipse
just my opinion
Drive a talon, no one knows what they are.
drivebymashing
10-29-2007, 07:20 PM
an earlier plymoth breeze would be sweet
bagged
10-29-2007, 07:29 PM
an earlier plymoth breeze would be sweet to hit parked cars with
fixed
99RedCSVT
10-29-2007, 07:31 PM
I have a 95 caravan I bought for 50 bucks to hit parked cars with. LOL:laugh:
Reebs
10-30-2007, 12:09 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/l337raceryo/crankwalk.jpg
Best Tourige post EVER! :) DSM Crankwalk FTW!!! The older blocks were the best.
chinaski
10-30-2007, 12:26 AM
you would loose out right, it wouldnt even be a competition, you would probably even loose against a stock GS-T, if it was a coop. i did win against a stock GST convertable only cuz of the extra weight added on from the convertable equipment that is added to the car. if i remember correctly, the convertable weighs close to 4000lbs, thats according to edmunds.com
elraido
10-30-2007, 10:39 AM
you would loose out right, it wouldnt even be a competition, you would probably even loose against a stock GS-T, if it was a coop. i did win against a stock GST convertable only cuz of the extra weight added on from the convertable equipment that is added to the car. if i remember correctly, the convertable weighs close to 4000lbs, thats according to edmunds.com
Did you even read the rest of this thread. A stock DSM and a stock SVT run almost the exact same 1/4 mile.
TRicker
10-30-2007, 12:16 PM
DSM's have a lot of aftermarket and are very fast. i actually had a 99 GST eclipse for about two months. they are fast. but a heavily modded CSVT is pretty fast. think about it. Demon runs a 13.4 N/A? no N/A eclipse or talon is going to do that!~ and let a turboed eclipse run a turboed CSVT? not even close except from a dig!
Should you race that guy? probably not. and if you do, don't be sad if you lose. but your also in a "sport sedan" when he's in a "sport coupe" so you have more weight to lug around too. all i know really is i wouldnt trade my car for a DSM. no thank yah
elraido
10-30-2007, 12:31 PM
DSM's have a lot of aftermarket and are very fast. i actually had a 99 GST eclipse for about two months. they are fast. but a heavily modded CSVT is pretty fast. think about it. Demon runs a 13.4 N/A? no N/A eclipse or talon is going to do that!~ and let a turboed eclipse run a turboed CSVT? not even close except from a dig!
Apples and oranges on the NA arguement. Demon has a non facatory 3.0l. vs a factory 2.0 or 1.8 liter. Of couse he would kill them. 200+ hp vs 135 or 95 hp....no brainer there. The DSM engines were designed for turbos, plain and simple, so why take out a main component of their design? That is like saying a Turboed DSM will kill a NA ztec tour.
Pen_Two
10-30-2007, 02:56 PM
Year/Make/Model/0-60/Quarter Mile
1989 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS 7.2 15.8
1990 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T 7.4 15.9
1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T (Auto) 7.4 15.5 (MT June, 94)
1990 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX 6.9 15.2
1992 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX 7.0 15.3
1992 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS Turbo 6.7 15.3 (MT Sept, 92)
1993 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX 6.8 15.2
1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS 9.0 16.6
1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX 6.4 14.9
Pen_Two
10-30-2007, 02:57 PM
Internet racing is fun.
TRicker
10-30-2007, 05:38 PM
according to those timeslips, we should be dead even to them?
elraido
10-30-2007, 05:48 PM
according to those timeslips, we should be dead even to them?
What have I been saying :shrug: :laugh: Stock for stock we are fairly even with them. But they have the wonderful world of FI and usable traction for when they mod. Then they break. :laugh:
00SVT
10-30-2007, 05:52 PM
Internet racing is fun.
It's the most fun thing on the internet that there is... and as was stated earlier, there's a lot more 13-second cars out there than there are 13-second drivers.
Pen_Two
10-30-2007, 07:29 PM
It's the most fun thing on the internet that there is... and as was stated earlier, there's a lot more 13-second cars out there than there are 13-second drivers.
I agree. Because on the internet everyone owns a 12 second dyno-queen Supra.
dairdevyld
10-30-2007, 08:38 PM
A boost controller on a DSM is better then a 3liter swapped tour. Non-turbo's are slow and can be taken by stock non-svt v6's.
Stock for stock the two cars are about equal, but the post isn't about a stock for stock race. The tour would get pwned period against a modded DSM. Someone actually do some research and then post.
yamaha racer 686
10-30-2007, 08:40 PM
hhahahahaha i know i do but my supra runs 7s
Pen_Two
10-30-2007, 09:14 PM
Stock for stock the two cars are about equal, but the post isn't about a stock for stock race. The tour would get pwned period against a modded DSM. Someone actually do some research and then post.
Maybe you missed the point of comparing them stock for stock. If they're neck and neck with us stock, then they'd easily beat the :censored::censored::censored::censored: out of us if they're lightly modded.
drivebymashing
10-31-2007, 10:49 AM
this is hillarious
i love it when people take up for ugly chick cars
CSVT1214
10-31-2007, 02:07 PM
this is hillarious
i love it when people take up for ugly chick cars
http://www.mazdas247.com/members/LinuxRacr/smiles/stfu.gif
1BadCSVT
10-31-2007, 05:44 PM
http://www.mazdas247.com/members/LinuxRacr/smiles/stfu.gif
+1 Nothing he has said in his last 2 post have contributed anything worth while to this thread.
elraido
10-31-2007, 05:48 PM
+1 Nothing he has said in his last 2 post have contributed anything worth while to this thread.
+2 on this. Just because I think a Mustang is ugly doesn't mean I bash it left and right....I just do that to neons.
dairdevyld
11-02-2007, 05:19 AM
this is hillarious
i love it when people take up for ugly chick cars that can pwn the crap out of me
fixed:laugh:
That is like saying a Turboed DSM will kill a NA ztec tour.
While I agree with your intent, technically, now you are comparing stock for stock in two variants. which is NOT like comparing a non stock larger engine, versus a non-stock (removed turbo) smaller engine. :)
Pen_Two
11-02-2007, 12:14 PM
How bout a real pissing match?
I can pee farther than Ray. As long as you're stock Ray!
I haven't been stock since birth, baby.
I have MUCH less drag than you (Hey.. we can't ALL be gargantuans).. I've had the entire chassis trimmed down, remove MOST of the carpetting, and got rid of the MUCH heavier front.. hood... when I was born.
:D :D :D :D I can piss MUCH further than you think.
Pen_Two
11-03-2007, 11:01 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/EYP0097/Smileys/lmao.gif
getsum111
11-08-2007, 12:12 PM
I haven't been stock since birth, baby.
I have MUCH less drag than you (Hey.. we can't ALL be gargantuans).. I've had the entire chassis trimmed down, remove MOST of the carpetting, and got rid of the MUCH heavier front.. hood... when I was born.
:D :D :D :D I can piss MUCH further than you think.
Ray, this is on of the funniest posts, ever! Course, now we all know a tad too much about you. :laugh:
haha.. glad to hear that.. I don't mind anyone "knowing too much". I can't change who I am..
I mean.. face it.. the AVERAGE size is called that for a reason.. the MAJORITY of the people fall in that category. Why should I have to pretend to fall in the top 5% of people? I don't, so why lie???
Pen_Two
11-08-2007, 02:11 PM
I'm glad we derailed this thread to talk about the size of the average males penis.:crazy:
getsum111
11-08-2007, 03:04 PM
More informative than original post, though. :laugh:
and, being average size is a whole lot more likely than beating the DSM anyway..
:)
Reebs
11-08-2007, 10:37 PM
Ray, your too old to be shaving your junk. Aren't you like a grandpa now or something?
You know you love the old man comments. :D
MOTH#$@^T
FFHNI AF$#FJ LEWAMFC$UT$#@TKFLRMD$#%$#%^$#^#^ N^$!@#@!#$%13214563q6
PS.. hahahaha
Reebs
11-09-2007, 12:10 AM
MOTH#$@^T
FFHNI AF$#FJ LEWAMFC$UT$#@TKFLRMD$#%$#%^$#^#^ N^$!@#@!#$%13214563q6
PS.. hahahaha
My wife's grandpa is named Ray, and so we call him Grandpa Ray. For some reason, I honestly think of you when I call his name. :)
If I ever posted my picture on here, you'd laugh until you peed your pants.. I'm the most baby-faced guy you'll ever see in your life..
I'm damn near 30 (well.. 27) and look all of 16 or 17 LOL
Reebs
11-09-2007, 12:25 AM
POST PLEASE. :) You know you have to now. I do always get a crack up when I see read those threads where we all post pictures of ourselves with our wives/girlfriends, etc... You start to feel like you know someone after talking to them through CEG for years and selling parts back and forth, then when you meet them or see the pics they are NOTHING like what you pictured! It is actually kinda disappointing for some reason!?!?! :shrug: :)
meh.. I won't disappoint you, then.. We're doing so well right now!
lol
Reebs
11-09-2007, 01:25 AM
that's fair. :laugh:
mjsvt
11-25-2007, 01:44 AM
you lost, not worth the gas to run the guy
Lt_hailBob
12-14-2007, 01:53 AM
Race him off the line. Get ahead by like 2 feet and slam the brakes and say you won. Thats what they do here in Charlottesville. ....or you could deflate his tires. Those are the only two chances you have.
SVTJON87
12-14-2007, 02:02 AM
Race him off the line. Get ahead by like 2 feet and slam the brakes and say you won. Thats what they do here in Charlottesville. ....or you could deflate his tires. Those are the only two chances you have.
around here there are some very sketchy guys running fully built talons. i have heard they have loosed the lug nuts on other peoples cars they are about to race and one of coarse has the rear wheels fall off. these are rumors but i do know them pretty well and would not put it past them with the kind of money they are pulling.
mattsBLK99cSVT
12-14-2007, 02:44 AM
car with turbo + turn boost up= lose
car with no turbo+ no boost= def. lose
now that analogy is only for this situation
DopePope
12-23-2007, 02:44 PM
wait, so ray has a 12 second penis? i'm lost.
so we're all under the same general consensus that a slightly modded dsm will beat a stock svt. in which case, this guys friends dsm will beat his svt... :shrug: im not even sure why im posting.
SlowSpyder
12-26-2007, 02:40 PM
I own a 97 Spyder for my 'toy' and a 99 CSVT for my daily driver. I've owned 3 DSM's. The DSM in the OP will beat any mildly modded CSVT assuming it's tuned and running as it should. I've never seen a car that can make power as easily or cheaply as a DSM. My buddy had a 91 Talon AWD. He had an S-AFC (fuel control), a re-wired fuel pump (ensures it gets ~14 volts, car won't run lean up top), a K&N with a cut air can, and a home made boost controller. With those mods and some 110 octane gas we dropped the exhaust after the turbo, so he ran no exhaust. With those things done, less then $300 total in mods, he ran 12.7's @ 108 all day long. That was just with the stock 14b turbo.
A turbo DSM isn't your average rice-boy Honda. The 4G63 is made to make horsepower, it's not an economy car/engine. When I had a 20g on my Spyder, running that @ 20psi with my HKS cams and sheet metal intake, the car would pull like a frieght train past 8000 rpm. The only engine modification I had was ARP head studs.
Pen_Two
12-26-2007, 06:24 PM
http://img45.exs.cx/img45/9549/crankwalk2.jpg
SlowSpyder
12-27-2007, 04:37 PM
I already have a 6 bolt engine in my Spyder. :)
superrandomguy
01-04-2008, 08:03 PM
my 2 cents.
my friends 99gsx with 16g turbo (running at 11psi stock boost no boost controller)
my 99 contour svt I/H/E
from a dig...he has me till 60mph by 1/2 car length
from anything more than a 20 mph roll i'm 1/2 - 1 car length ahead by the time i hit 80mph
80mph roll, i just walk away (much better high end)
of course this was all done using a contour svt mod i made for gran turismo 4
warmonger
01-06-2008, 03:43 AM
If I ever posted my picture on here, you'd laugh until you peed your pants.. I'm the most baby-faced guy you'll ever see in your life..
I'm damn near 30 (well.. 27) and look all of 16 or 17 LOL
Holy shyt are you really only 27 years old?
:D
You're much older up stairs...thats' what these guys mean. lol (Maturity I meant :ponder:)
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