12 Second Contour???

[Hightower GT]

Does anyone have a 12.999 or better Contour in the quarter mile? Sure, you can have 500HP or so. But, how does that equate to useful HP in a Contour?

Timeslips, or you're a liar.

[CSVT1214]

Hmmmmm..... (http://www.contour.org/ceg-vb/showthread.php?t=19115):shrug:

[Pudmunkie]

Its ok Tony. All the old members have reached senility and can no longer re-call any past instances or use their brains to perform much other than make pointless posts :laugh:

[CSVT1214]

Its ok Tony. All the old members have reached senility and can no longer re-call any past instances or use their brains to perform much other than make pointless posts :laugh:

Poor old man. :cry:

I feel bad now. :o

[Harrry]

Does anyone have a 12.999 or better Contour in the quarter mile? Sure, you can have 500HP or so. But, how does that equate to useful HP in a Contour?

Timeslips, or you're a liar.

:help: this man :shrug:

[The Digital Slacker]

Does anyone have a 12.999 or better Contour in the quarter mile? Sure, you can have 500HP or so. But, how does that equate to useful HP in a Contour?

Timeslips, or you're a liar.

Wow.

I know you've been here long enough to know such a thing does not exist. Is this flamebait?

[NiggShevik]

Isn't that the first thing people find out when they come here?

[icysvt]

Isn't that the first thing people find out when they come here?
I do but my dog ate my timeslip:laugh:

[striker2]

I do but my dog ate my timeslip:laugh:
Chester needs to learn some manners and quit eating your time slips :laugh::laugh:



and if your running 12s wheres that put me? 10s, 9s? :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[The Five-Oh!]

i ran a 10 on NAWZZZ, but they didn't give me a slip, but my floorboard fell out, then i blew the weld on the intake and it was down hill from there.

[icysvt]

i ran a 10 on NAWZZZ, but they didn't give me a slip, but my floorboard fell out, then i blew the weld on the intake and it was down hill from there.
Dang man that sucks:blackeye: I hope you get it fixed soon......









:laugh:

[devanmc]

i ran a 10 on NAWZZZ, but they didn't give me a slip, but my floorboard fell out, then i blew the weld on the intake and it was down hill from there.

what a cheesy poke and fast and the furious...:blackeye:

nice work :cool:

[CSVT1214]

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/185413/manifold_danger.jpg

[csvt2200]

i ran a 10 on NAWZZZ, but they didn't give me a slip, but my floorboard fell out, then i blew the weld on the intake and it was down hill from there.

Wow, watch Fast and the Furious much? LOL I'm going to the track friday, don't think i'm going to run just because I don't wanna make a fool of my tour. If I did though that means I'd have to put my stock wheels back on, cause there is no way i'd run my 10 ton 18's! :nonono: Main reason i'm going is to see what kinda time my Mustang buddies run...

[Rich2279]

lol, kitty mechanic

[drivebymashing]

yo snap dawg i was running 8.94 at 145 in my svt then my rpms caught on fire and
speedometer threw the needle off and got stuck in my halogen fluid container
and then my muffler backfired and my timeslip blew out the window
but it was sweet i ran 2 stAge NAWS 300 shot for the launch and a 600 shot for the 3rd gear clutch dump at 9500 rpms (thats how they caught on fire)

yeeeah

[The Five-Oh!]

i ate a big red candle.

[ConcepTrs913]

Dang man that sucks:blackeye: I hope you get it fixed soon......

:laugh:



Now me and the mad scientist have to rip apart the block and replace the piston rings ya fried!

[Klasse Act]

I think the best pass so far is a 13.4@108 mph:shrug:

[TRicker]

burrita did a 13.2 and bent an axle i hear. demon's 13.4 was N/A and gives all us contour owners hope. it kinda makes me want to start doing the fine tweaks on my car N/A and finish it up.

all i would need is


"optimized" secondaries
A large throttle body
The 75MM maf installed
A better intake
Xcal2 with PRP
UDP's (already have AC deleted)
EGR delete


then there is really not much else i would have to physically bolt onto the car. even with all that on the 3L, and drag radials, i doubt i'd come close to demon's time. it would take about 250 HP and good hook for a crappy driver like me to get into the 13's at all. lol

[TourDeForce]

burrita did a 13.2 and bent an axle i hear. demon's 13.4 was N/A and gives all us contour owners hope.

I respect Demon & his work. Great stuff... BUT, I have always had my doubts about that N/A time. I suspect but cannot confirm he had a little help under the hood, or there was something up with the timing equipment or mixup that printed out that timeslip for him.

Just too good to be true! And maybe I'm jealous. :blackeye:

.... And the Mechanic Kittah appears to be inspecting the floorpan bolts, not the manifold.

[The Five-Oh!]

jealous, perhaps.

From what i've heard he's a hell of a driver, regardless of location like auto-x or drag strip.

[PDXSVT]

Demon's 14.68 is rather like the holy grail for 2.5 NAs also. He had to be doing everything right along with optimizing every little detail. I'm jealous too.

[TourDeForce]

Demon's 14.68 is rather like the holy grail for 2.5 NAs also. He had to be doing everything right along with optimizing every little detail. I'm jealous too.

Oooo! I forgot about that time. Great stuff!

[wavrdr]

Back in the day Demon and I had very similiar N/A 2.5 setups and they ran quite similiarly....My 14.71 at 95 to his 14.69 at 96 IIRC...

I went the 2.5 turbo route back when it was made by Streetflight and posted a best of 13.51 at 107.56 on a mere 8psi with a 2.3 60' time....

That was the last time I went to the track with the SVT and later sold it to SVTRob. The Tour was a great car and I do miss it from time to time, but it's just not the platform for straightline dead stop racing....

Take care

[TourDeForce]

Excellent driving! Sounds like there was more available if you could have worked that 60' time down a bit - although it's rather difficult in these cars because of wheelspin, much less with a turbo.

[Pole120]

Getting the car to hook to get it off the line will be the tricky part, but I've got some ideas, we'll see how well they work. :shrug:

[HoustonLX]

I'm still new to the CSVT world. Hell, new to FWD vehicles period. Been racing Mustangs for the past 10 years and only recently picked up my 99 CSVT so don't kill me here..

What I don't understand is how there can be SVT's with 3L swaps, turbo's, etc claiming 400 +/- fwp, yet, only lay down mph's of 103-107 mph in the 1/4? It doesn't add up. At the track, there are two general guidlines for judging cars that go down the track... E.T. and MPH. ET is an indication of how well a car us using the hp it is making. MPH is an indication of how much hp the car is making at a given vehicle weight (for the most part).

I understand a fwd vehicle is simply not going to 60' like a rwd vehicle would with weight tranfer. But, with all things being equal, the mph should still be there. Case in point..

My last Mustang went a best of 11.87 @ 113 mph with a 1.58 60' with a 5-speed and 5,500 rpm launches on M/T ET Street tires. It weight 3,080 lbs with me and put down 312 rwhp on the dyno (N/A 302 ci). I went to the track one day on regular street radials and spun all the way through 1st, 2nd, and part of 3rd. Ended up running slipping and sliding 12.9 @ 112 mph with a 2.0 60'. Obviously ET was greatly effected with the absance of traction, but mph was reletively the same.

I have not weight my CSVT yet, but it seems they weigh around 3,000-3,300 lbs from what I have seen posted. Even spinning its butt off, a car making 400 hp at that weight should still see 110-115 mph MINIMUM at the track. Its GOT to hook at some point. That's when the hp should come into play. I can go to the track this weekend and see Hondas running 13.0's @ 120 mph.

So, someone explain to me why these motor swapped/turbo'd/nitrous CSVT's are going 103-107 mph?

[Pole120]

So, someone explain to me why these motor swapped/turbo'd/nitrous CSVT's are going 103-107 mph?

Traction....

400HP in a Contour will spin the tires thru 4th gear....check out some of Joey's old vids...

Slicks or DRs will help, but there are few people that have actually used them. Not to mension that at those pawer levels, and even much lower power levels, axles break like toothpicks on these cars, and a worthy after market replacement has not been built.

[Ray]

simply? You have a car that USED to make ~160whp at the wheels and now you're making right at 400fwhp. That's ~350% increase in power and the MOST you are going to get is a 10% increase in tire width.

Track usage is horrible. Spinning through ALLLLL of third and WELL in to fourth is absolutely normal. You can be spinning quite literally to the end. To spin that much and STILL be able to accelerate to 103-107 is meaning you are making WELL more than the 312 rwhp your mustang was making (and you've seen how much IT spins, even with WHAT size tires?)

[beyondloadedSE]

Traction....

400HP in a Contour will spin the tires thru 4th gear....check out some of Joey's old vids...

Slicks or DRs will help, but there are few people that have actually used them. Not to mension that at those pawer levels, and even much lower power levels, axles break like toothpicks on these cars, and a worthy after market replacement has not been built.

Yeah, I believe Joey's car actually trapped lower with his higher power levels.

At SZ 06 I dynoed 355 whp and then went immediately to the drag strip where I trapped at about 103-104. Didn't get traction until 3rd gear. On the street I wouldnt get traction until 4th. :blackeye:

[Redlineracer12]

Yeah, I believe Joey's car actually trapped lower with his higher power levels.


Let off the gas? Obviously not a solution to traction issues but you'd think with more power you'd just have to back off a bit to keep the tires from spinning and still get as good of times as with less power. I've never had that kinda problem after 2nd, but I get plenty of practice in the snow :laugh: Just spinning the tires doesn't get you going faster (or much at all) then just slowly holding traction.

[The Five-Oh!]

stong as hell axles, sticky D/R's, someone do it.

[Pole120]

stong as hell axles, sticky D/R's, someone do it.

Someone is doing it, are you new?

[The Five-Oh!]

Someone is doing it, are you new?

no, i'm fresh.

[Pole120]

no, i'm fresh.

or not....



http://post.oftheday.com.au/images/fresh-prince-of-bel-air-will-smith.jpg

[The Five-Oh!]

damn.

[Barge]

I so need to get another contour, show you slackers what's up :)

[Pole120]

I so need to get another contour, show you slackers what's up :)

:P

That is all...

[Y2KSVT]

I so need to get another contour, show you slackers what's up :)

Would need more weight reduction..... :p

Mark

[Barge]

Would need more weight reduction..... :p

Mark

Hah, well I lightened up 50 lbs between SZ06 and SZ07 so :P to you too

[Loco4G63]

Stronger drivetrain and one hell of a diet to run 12s. The power is there.

I have seen stripped out Hondas with under 400 Hp run 10s. It can be done with time, patience, and money. But we knew this already.

Go JOSH!:laugh:

[wavrdr]

The build on my car was simply more power is not always faster/quicker...

My 6psi dyno was right at 240whp and the car would consistently go 13.8x's at 103mph...

My 8psi runs were more along the lines of an 8psi spike and settling to a 6-6.5psi hold and those runs netted me that nearly 108 mph with a 13.5x. I was quite happy to not break anything and then left the track never to go back with the tour...

My setup did include DSS stage 2 axles and BFG 225/45/17 drag radials.

These runs were made nearly fours years ago and still hold as some of the quicker in Tour history, so I guess you could say that most of us haved moved on to more appropriate platforms...Then again I still have trouble using my current mph to net me the ET that it "could"!

[m!key]

Its ok Tony. All the old members have reached senility and can no longer re-call any past instances or use their brains to perform much other than make pointless posts :laugh:


.......so?

[mjsvt]

does the noble count with twin turbo 3.0 duratec?

[95pgt-t]

damn,still no 12's here?!!??! might have to stick w/the ford pube for a fun fwd drag car:nonono: as there have been several in the 10/11's and still street legal. and some even lower:cool:

[Redlineracer12]

damn,still no 12's here?!!??! might have to stick w/the ford pube for a fun fwd drag car:nonono: as there have been several in the 10/11's and still street legal. and some even lower:cool:

I've got an even better idea... If you want a drag car don't get something fwd period. :idea:

[95pgt-t]

that is a great idea:cool:

[cobrawannabe]

yo snap dawg i was running 8.94 at 145 in my svt then my rpms caught on fire and
speedometer threw the needle off and got stuck in my halogen fluid container
and then my muffler backfired and my timeslip blew out the window
but it was sweet i ran 2 stAge NAWS 300 shot for the launch and a 600 shot for the 3rd gear clutch dump at 9500 rpms (thats how they caught on fire)

yeeeah


That's prolly because you were granny shifting, not double-clutching like you should...:nonono: Such noobs. When will you learn to drive your accelerating cars like decellerating tractor-trailers? I think your NAWZZ also endangered your manifold and fried your piston rings. Pshhhh. You should race my charger which can do monster wheelstands with no traction. :censored::censored::censored::censored:'s intense...