Fastest contour

[Ifordman98]

I know the contour svt is no straight line car, but ive never been able to pinpoint what the fastest N/A 2.5, 3.0 and all around the fastest contour in 1/4 mile times.

[The Five-Oh!]

there's been posts about this before. i believe the fastest tour is 13.1 in the qtr.

[ConcepTrs913]

hmm iirc... demonsvt had the fastest 3.0 NA at 13.47 quarter mile.
http://home.kc.rr.com/newshore/Cars/SVT.html

and the other one .. didnt burritasvt or one of them pull off a 13.2 w/ a turbo 3.0 litre?

I think I read somewhere that a 2.5 nitrous did 13's... I don't know the validity of that, but I am sure of DemonSVT.

[98TredSVT]

fastest n/a is 13.47, fastest period is 13.2 turbo, and I believe there was also a 13.2 ran by a contour with nitrous, there was another recent thread on this that's why I knew this off hand

[The Five-Oh!]

i thought someone hit something like a 13.14

[elraido]

i thought someone hit something like a 13.14

That was me. in my dreams

[The Five-Oh!]

That was me. in my dreams

is that's the best you can do then you must be slow...in the head. :laugh:

[98TredSVT]

maybe but I was pretty sure on 13.2, either way, I was wondering why that's the fastest a contour has gone, there are a few contours with over 400whp, and there are other fwd cars with less hp running much better times. Is it just that nobody runs drag slicks or is there a weak link that nobody's found a way around yet when you reach a certain hp? I know traction is the ultimate enemy with these cars when you get to a certain level of power.

[The Five-Oh!]

traction and snapping axles i believe are the most common issues, and yes it sucks that a tour has yet to hit 12's where as a freakin honda with less power can hit low 12's

[MxRacer]

it's a damm shame how much power these engines can make with F/I, but the chassis and the rest of the drivetrain can't put it down.

[The Five-Oh!]

they may suck from a stop, but if you're on the highway or something and roll into it you're gone.

[Trapps]

I posted an 11.8 at Milan several years ago. There were witnesses (Brent from CEG IIRC and some Redlinemotorsport people) and the timeslip was posted on the old CEG site. Search back around '00 or '01

[The Five-Oh!]

but was it in a contour?

[Trapps]

but was it in a contour?

Isn't that what this thread is? fastest Contour? Yes it was in a Contour. My SVT. You should have been there to film it.

[Y2KSVT]

Milan? Is that an 1/8th mile track? ;)

Mark

[The Five-Oh!]

Milan? Is that an 1/8th mile track? ;)

Mark

it's a 1/4 mile, but he might be talking about his 1/8th :laugh:

[MxRacer]

I posted an 11.8 at Milan several years ago. There were witnesses (Brent from CEG IIRC and some Redlinemotorsport people) and the timeslip was posted on the old CEG site. Search back around '00 or '01


so their timing system was fubared? on a related note, i once ran a 10.90 at lapeer in my 91 notch when it was stock. :shrug:

[The Five-Oh!]

so their timing system was fubared? on a related note, i once ran a 10.90 at lapeer in my 91 notch when it was stock. :shrug:

wanna drop two tenths off your quarter times? Run at lapeer. :laugh: i got a 16.9 out of my old corolla

[beyondloadedSE]

Fastest contour/cougar is a 13.2.

[HolyRollerzC3]

I posted an 11.8 at Milan several years ago. There were witnesses (Brent from CEG IIRC and some Redlinemotorsport people) and the timeslip was posted on the old CEG site. Search back around '00 or '01


i searched every post you had on the old forums, and they only go back to August 16 2002?:shrug:

[MxRacer]

i searched every post you had on the old forums, and they only go back to August 16 2002?:shrug:


archives > you.

[HolyRollerzC3]

archives > you.

the archives woulndt let me find posts made by user, so i wasnt going to use it! oh well... i want to see this 11 second timeslip too!

[grahamb]

it definitley is possible mathmatically(sp?) for a 400 hp contour to run 12s easy, the car weights about 3200-3300 pounds with a driver right it should be able to hit high 11s. those 400hp people need to invest in some slicks

[The Five-Oh!]

it definitley is possible mathmatically(sp?) for a 400 hp contour to run 12s easy, the car weights about 3200-3300 pounds with a driver right it should be able to hit high 11s. those 400hp people need to invest in some slicks

I believe though that there are no axles shafts that will keep the power to the ground because they always snap.

[morbid]

it definitley is possible mathmatically(sp?) for a 400 hp contour to run 12s easy, the car weights about 3200-3300 pounds with a driver right it should be able to hit high 11s. those 400hp people need to invest in some slicks
I don't think anyone weighing 320-350lbs is going to be dragracing anything. Seems that most CSVT's weigh 2950-3050... mine weighed in around 2970 with 3/4 tank of gas and no weight reduction (spare, etc still in.). That's w/o me in the car.

I'm surprised no one has gutted a Contour. I'm sure that would help alot for 1/4 mile and at the track.

[elraido]

it definitley is possible mathmatically(sp?) for a 400 hp contour to run 12s easy, the car weights about 3200-3300 pounds with a driver right it should be able to hit high 11s. those 400hp people need to invest in some slicks

People have tried slicks. Like Alex said, it is the problem of breaking other parts on the car that has limited people to running faster....from a roll the cars are really really good...from a stop, not so much.

[HolyRollerzC3]

People have tried slicks. Like Alex said, it is the problem of breaking other parts on the car that has limited people to running faster....from a roll the cars are really really good...from a stop, not so much.


why wont the driveshaftshop axles hold the power?

[qbcsvt]

11s Car.... I wanna see....matter of fact I want one...

- amyn

[elraido]

why wont the driveshaftshop axles hold the power?

They snap.

[Redlineracer12]

why wont the driveshaftshop axles hold the power?

IIRC the part that breaks is about the same.

[HolyRollerzC3]

IIRC the part that breaks is about the same.

then why havevnt any of the engineers that are here all day do something about this... why are civic axles better then ours, and cant we find someone to amke us axles that wont snap with high HP/TQ ratings?

[The Five-Oh!]

then why havevnt any of the engineers that are here all day do something about this... why are civic axles better then ours, and cant we find someone to amke us axles that wont snap with high HP/TQ ratings?

because there is no love for a contour, especially when compared to a civic. How many pro-street, full drag contours have you ever seen.... exactly.

[cnewton44]

Forged axels?:shrug:

[MxRacer]

then why havevnt any of the engineers that are here all day do something about this... why are civic axles better then ours, and cant we find someone to amke us axles that wont snap with high HP/TQ ratings?


demand > supply.

/thread.

[beyondloadedSE]

then why havevnt any of the engineers that are here all day do something about this... why are civic axles better then ours, and cant we find someone to amke us axles that wont snap with high HP/TQ ratings?

Civic axles are better probably because the Honda engineers over engineer them. My friends Nissan Maxima was making 603 foot pounds of tq on the stock drivetrain system. He was running slicks and doing 5,000 RPM clutch dumps at the drag strip and never broke anything. Put slicks on stock contour and youll walk away with a sheered axle or a grenaded diff.

DSS will make you axles to handle the power. Id imagine they would run you at least $1000. Stage 2 axles are already $700.

[elraido]

I could only imagine the cost of fabricating something like that. The first person that does it will be paying a good chunck of change, and hoping that they work correctly. Noone really wants to drop that much for something that might not work. And is there anyone on this site that can engineer/manufacture something like that? I don't know if the people on here who own/work at shops have the ability to do it or not.

[HolyRollerzC3]

I could only imagine the cost of fabricating something like that. The first person that does it will be paying a good chunck of change, and hoping that they work correctly. Noone really wants to drop that much for something that might not work. And is there anyone on this site that can engineer/manufacture something like that? I don't know if the people on here who own/work at shops have the ability to do it or not.

The only point I was making is that we all ***** and moan that the contour is not a fast car down the strip, rather thin locate the problems as to why, and FIX them, and being able to give the rest of the automotive community a big fat middle finger while we hit the 12, 11, and even faster times!

*OK, wishful thinking maybe...

[mattsBLK99cSVT]

I could only imagine the cost of fabricating something like that. The first person that does it will be paying a good chunck of change, and hoping that they work correctly. Noone really wants to drop that much for something that might not work. And is there anyone on this site that can engineer/manufacture something like that? I don't know if the people on here who own/work at shops have the ability to do it or not. Thats what I said awhile back we def. need something like this maybe one day something will be created

[The Five-Oh!]

i'm sure if someone had the cost effective resources that custom driveshafts would have been made by now. guess someone with a fat wad of cash is gunna have to step up. granted that's an oxymoron when it comes to the majority of ceg haha

[elraido]

i'm sure if someone had the cost effective resources that custom driveshafts would have been made by now. guess someone with a fat wad of cash is gunna have to step up. granted that's an oxymoron when it comes to the majority of ceg haha

Time to turn to the communist theory and have everyone pitch in to create ONE car that someone can drive (me) that would be in the 12's. LOL We have known for a while now WHY these cars aren't able to get lower, it is the whole cash issue as to why we aren't ABLE to.

[mattsBLK99cSVT]

thats probably true, hopefully pole120 will finish that track car, october is rolling around here soon

[Trapps]

http://www.contour.org/archive/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=27534&Forum=All_Forums&Words=Trapps&Match=Username&Searchpage=8&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=27534&Search=true#Post27534

[yamaha racer 686]

yeah i read that whole post haha u really had people freaked!!

[Trapps]

HolyRollerzC3Quote:
Originally Posted by Trapps http://www.contour.org/ceg-vb/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.contour.org/ceg-vb/showthread.php?p=262317#post262317)
http://www.contour.org/archive/showf...ue#Post2 7534 (http://www.contour.org/archive/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=27534&Forum=All_Forums&Words=Trapps&Match=Username&Searchpage=8&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=27534&Search=true#Post27534)

So if you really ran a 11 second time in your svt, please indulge us all as to how!


An 11 second Contour is absurd. So are any claims that it's feasible. I'll be the first to buy a case of quality beer for the first person who does run an 11 second 1/4 mile in a CDW27.

As for posting, it's been done.

[99cougar]

hmm iirc... demonsvt had the fastest 3.0 NA at 13.47 quarter mile.
http://home.kc.rr.com/newshore/Cars/SVT.html

and the other one .. didnt burritasvt or one of them pull off a 13.2 w/ a turbo 3.0 litre?

I think I read somewhere that a 2.5 nitrous did 13's... I don't know the validity of that, but I am sure of DemonSVT.


The 13.2 on nitrous was me. And it was in a cougar.

[The Five-Oh!]

Older thread, same topic.

http://contour.org/ceg-vb/showthread.php?t=7219&highlight=fastest

[Pope]

Someone with a 400whp turbo 'Tour needs to get to the track, launch light, then roll the power on for a 1.7-2.0 Sixty-Foot time, then it's only a matter of proper shifting to finish off some easy 12.4 - 12.6 second 1320 times.

Done right this should even be doable on street tires.

[Y2KSVT]

That definitely won't be happening on street tires. With my old N/A 3L with my suspension set on full stiff, and some pretty soft tires, I was just at the point of keeping and losing traction on my 2.13 60' time. Keeping a boosted Contour under control in 1st gear is only going to make that harder. I'd love to see it, but it's highly unlikely.

Mark

[beyondloadedSE]

Someone with a 400whp turbo 'Tour needs to get to the track, launch light, then roll the power on for a 1.7-2.0 Sixty-Foot time, then it's only a matter of proper shifting to finish off some easy 12.4 - 12.6 second 1320 times.

Done right this should even be doable on street tires.

Not when you dont get traction until 3rd gear. :blackeye:

A SPEC III clutch doesnt help with the launch either.

[The Five-Oh!]

you would need a crazy multi step boost controller like 1psi in first, 5 in second, etc haha no way to run full boost from the tree.

[Pudmunkie]

That kind of boost controller wouldn't even be that hard, but instead of focusing on gear dependency have it set up on time delay that is designed for the 1/4 mile

[Rara]

Or, here's a crazy idea . . . make changes to the suspension to improve the traction at launch . . .

[Ray]

Or, here's a crazy idea . . . make changes to the suspension to improve the traction at launch . . .

yeah.. and then REALLY enjoy driving it on a daily basis.

[LauraSVT]

I think maybe a nice winding road would do the trick. Then it won't matter that the car isn't the most blisteringly fast thing on the landscape, but it will matter that its got plenty of thrust and can handle well. :cool:

[bensenvill]

Or, here's a crazy idea . . . make changes to the suspension to improve the traction at launch . . .yeah.. and then REALLY enjoy driving it on a daily basis.

Well if anyone wants to donate a blown motor, I got the chassy if you want to find out.

and a full blown suspension is probably just as practical for DD use as a blown 3L.

[Pole120]

yeah.. and then REALLY enjoy driving it on a daily basis.

That's why you build a Silverfrost track-only built and gutted SVT so you can keep your nice black one comfy for the street/daily ride/cruise. Am I the only person doing this??? :shrug: These cars are cheap nowadays people GET ON IT! For Christ sake i'll be in the 13s for FREE, imagine what a little money on top of that will do.

[Pope]

Not when you dont get traction until 3rd gear. :blackeye:

A SPEC III clutch doesnt help with the launch either.

That only means that you are not rolling into the throttle light enough.

[svt2sho]

13s? all motor? that will be intresting....



That's why you build a Silverfrost track-only built and gutted SVT so you can keep your nice black one comfy for the street/daily ride/cruise. Am I the only person doing this??? :shrug: These cars are cheap nowadays people GET ON IT! For Christ sake i'll be in the 13s for FREE, imagine what a little money on top of that will do.

[Pole120]

13s? all motor? that will be intresting....

When did i say all motor??? Not that it would be that hard with 3L and a couple hundred pounds of weight reduction with proper tires...

You do realize there's already a couple cars in the 13s all motor in full street trim right....

[svt2sho]

When did i say all motor??? Not that it would be that hard with 3L and a couple hundred pounds of weight reduction with proper tires...

You do realize there's already a couple cars in the 13s all motor in full street trim right....

wow. really? i seriosly did not know that....who is? thats crazy.
anyone besides that demonsvt or whatever

[MLuko]

Pope..

[Pole120]

of the top of my head....

DemonSVT
Pope
96BlackSE

[elraido]

Demon is running mid 13's to boot....IIRC 13.47 or so.

[beyondloadedSE]

Demon is running mid 13's to boot....IIRC 13.47 or so.

yup...already been mentioned in this thread. ;)

[Pre98]

thrust

You said thrust.
But to add value to this post, you can all rest assured you are looking at the slowest Contour on the boards. :)
If I ran it, it would probably break. lol! But I love it.

[speedfreak117]

why wont the driveshaftshop axles hold the power?

maybe their new ones can hold power but their old stage 3 didn't.

here is one of their old stg3 axels from my vw gti making 203whp 265wtq

http://spdfrek.smugmug.com/photos/162837480-M.jpg

http://spdfrek.smugmug.com/photos/162837507-M.jpg

[The Five-Oh!]

aren't those supposed to be rated much higher? did they warranty it or anything?

[speedfreak117]

they were suposed to be rated to something like 400hp. I have snapped both the short pass side and the longer drivers side and both times all they did for me was reweld it.

they have updated their design though to a solid axle but I don't want to spend another grand on axles if they are just going to break somewhere else.

[beyondloadedSE]

aren't those supposed to be rated much higher? did they warranty it or anything?

Im not sure how it is now, but Stage 2 and below were warrantied for 6 months. Stage 3 and above were warrantied for a year.

[Livinsvt]

I don't believe DSS makes these any more. They have been completely removed from there site and catalog. For some time now too.

[BurritaSVT]

I have the 13.2 at 106 mph where my trap speed were closer to 110mph I was running the 2.5 liter built motor turbo charged at 10-12psi and bent my stock axle on the run due to the hard launch. I let off the gas when my wheel felt likr it was coming off but If i knew it was just a shaft I would have styed in it to get 13.0 more than likely. I never really had a chance to hot the track with 400whp yet but I imagine even granny launching I owuld eadily break 12 for sure. Joey

[Redlineracer12]

I have the 13.2 at 106 mph where my trap speed were closer to 110mph I was running the 2.5 liter built motor turbo charged at 10-12psi and bent my stock axle on the run due to the hard launch. I let off the gas when my wheel felt likr it was coming off but If i knew it was just a shaft I would have styed in it to get 13.0 more than likely. I never really had a chance to hot the track with 400whp yet but I imagine even granny launching I owuld eadily break 12 for sure. Joey

Where's that stupid "Do It" GIF when you need it...

[warmonger]

maybe but I was pretty sure on 13.2, either way, I was wondering why that's the fastest a contour has gone, there are a few contours with over 400whp, and there are other fwd cars with less hp running much better times. Is it just that nobody runs drag slicks or is there a weak link that nobody's found a way around yet when you reach a certain hp? I know traction is the ultimate enemy with these cars when you get to a certain level of power.

Only one person has run drag slicks and posted the time. Most people run street tires.

Axles snap occasionally but not necessarily everytime you get traction.

[The Five-Oh!]

i'd guess if you used slicks you'd have to feather the launch, but find the median where you can still pull a good 60'

[99cougar]

Only one person has run drag slicks and posted the time. Most people run street tires.

Axles snap occasionally but not necessarily everytime you get traction.

I have ran at the track a total of about 10-12 runs and have yet to break an axle with my drag radials. I try not to launch too hard so as to not stress them to much with a jolt. When i hit 2nd and the 125 shot hits in though you can feel them diggin into the track... and have yet to break one. The axles are fine as long as you don't just out right abuse them or be stupid.

(or i'm just lucky for now)

[drivebymashing]

alright i am upset
http://www.dragtimes.com/Ford-Focus-Timeslip-4802.html
1/4 Mile ET: 11.880
1/4 Mile MPH: 123.000
why in the heck is a friggin 4 cylinder going that fast

ok i know hes running 20 pounds of boost
surely someone in a contour can break his numbers
im poor i cant do it
i think ryanblacksvts gonnna do it

put the big slicks and big axles and dump it at 8k
it will do something spectacular im sure of it

[Pole120]

i think ryanblacksvts gonnna do it

If you say so....

put the big slicks and big axles and dump it at 8k
it will do something spectacular im sure of it

1) Have fun paying for alxes
2) 8K launch is retarded.....
3) IF the axles hold up to the above, have fun shearing the teeth off of the drive gears.

~Josh

[drivebymashing]

just joking about the 8 k launch
my sisters boyfirend had a 03 cobra with irs he would launch at 6 k with slicks and nitrous with a ported eaton blower
he broke the factory axle once
and ran like 15 times 10.9 129 was the best

[Matty K]

Erm.... RWD much? :shrug:

[drivebymashing]

yes i rwd alot not in a contour yes its unfortunate
theres a guy running 10.6 at like 130 on pinks in his piece of crap honda crx or something its fwd

[TRicker]

yeah the honda guys dont lack in traction or structural integrity.

you guys all should darn well know that the 400 WHP contours should be good for high 10's but they'll never hook and if they do they'll break everything. i'm just glad we can make good HP. if we could fit twin turbos into these things like the noble setup think of what they could do, even with the lack of traction.

[warmonger]

I have ran at the track a total of about 10-12 runs and have yet to break an axle with my drag radials. I try not to launch too hard so as to not stress them to much with a jolt. When i hit 2nd and the 125 shot hits in though you can feel them diggin into the track... and have yet to break one. The axles are fine as long as you don't just out right abuse them or be stupid.

(or i'm just lucky for now)

I agree. I ran at the track quite a few times even with stock tires I could get some good launches that technically should have broken a few axles, but didn't. :eek:

Anyway, I guess BurritaSVT will hold the fastest contour record, followed closely by DemonSVT in terms of 1/4 mile time.
I don't know what the fastest in terms of MPH hour are, but I still have my timeslips and I have FOUR of them into the 13's trapping above 108mph, with my highest trapping at 109.2mph in the quarter. :cool:

Anyone else able to beat that in their contour?

[The Five-Oh!]

i had a kid tell me he ran a 12.8 in a tour with just a 3L swap and headers. i went along with it, but of course he had no slip "he lost it at his brothers" no pictures/video of his car, etc.

[speedfreak117]

i'd guess if you used slicks you'd have to feather the launch, but find the median where you can still pull a good 60'

you will just bog if you try to do that.


one thing to try, and it takes a while to master, is to preload

pull up to the line and stage
pull the ebrake up as hard as you can while holding the button in
rev the motor and ease up on the clutch just to the point where the car will be able to over power the rear brakes
this way you are removing the big hit that you put your driveline though on a hard launch
at the third yellow dump the ebrake, and quickly let out the clutch and roll on the gas all at the same time.

if you can master that you can get awesome launches and 60 like a rwd car without putting all that stress on the car like a 5krpm clutch drop

[Pope]

you will just bog if you try to do that.


one thing to try, and it takes a while to master, is to preload

pull up to the line and stage
pull the ebrake up as hard as you can while holding the button in
rev the motor and ease up on the clutch just to the point where the car will be able to over power the rear brakes
this way you are removing the big hit that you put your driveline though on a hard launch
at the third yellow dump the ebrake, and quickly let out the clutch and roll on the gas all at the same time.

if you can master that you can get awesome launches and 60 like a rwd car without putting all that stress on the car like a 5krpm clutch drop

Yes that can work, however it is still a flawed launch method:

1. The entire time you are loading the driveline against the parking brake you are heating the clutch...

2. as the clutch becomes super heated, the friction material will begin to glaze over...

3. a glazed clutch will not hold properly.

4. Additionally, as the clutch becomes hotter, the slave-cylinder/release bearing becomes hotter....

5. too much heat in the slave-cylinder will damage and prematurely destroy the o-ring seals leading to slave-cylinder failure....

6. excessive slave-cylinder heating will also lead to boiling of the hydraulic fluid that actuates the slave-cylinder causing gas buildup and a spongy clutch pedal.



So in conclusion, although preloading the driveline will allow for smoother and quicker launches, the propensity for clutch damage and the need for premature replacement outweighs the usefulness of using this launch method with any regularity.

[Y2KSVT]

I agree. I ran at the track quite a few times even with stock tires I could get some good launches that technically should have broken a few axles, but didn't. :eek:

Anyway, I guess BurritaSVT will hold the fastest contour record, followed closely by DemonSVT in terms of 1/4 mile time.
I don't know what the fastest in terms of MPH hour are, but I still have my timeslips and I have FOUR of them into the 13's trapping above 108mph, with my highest trapping at 109.2mph in the quarter. :cool:

Anyone else able to beat that in their contour?

I'm pretty sure I remember Keyser pulling a ~14.1 @ 112 or 114.

Mark

[KyleQ]

Anybody have a pic of where the axles break or bend? Couldn't you get a piece of DOM tubing and sleeve the axle for some bulletproof strength? I'm sure you could get the balanced at a driveline shop - if they can balance a driveshaft, I'm sure they could balance a custom CV shaft...

Just an idea - maybe somthing designed in a 2 piece manner would work. Clamp on axle around weak area and weld on - grind smooth and run it. I dunno - just shooting out ideas...

[Pole120]

To the best of my knowledge they break at the trans connection. The splined section shears off. The only way to strengthen it is to have new ones made of a different alloy.

[drivebymashing]

somebody with money should do that that would be sweet
i cant i just bought a house 850 bucks for the rest of my life
im glad i like my 200 horse contour hope it lasts forever

[KyleQ]

To the best of my knowledge they break at the trans connection. The splined section shears off. The only way to strengthen it is to have new ones made of a different alloy.


Hmm - anybody ever look at cryo treatment? Can't be that bad...

[speedfreak117]

Yes that can work, however it is still a flawed launch method:

1. The entire time you are loading the driveline against the parking brake you are heating the clutch...

2. as the clutch becomes super heated, the friction material will begin to glaze over...

3. a glazed clutch will not hold properly.

4. Additionally, as the clutch becomes hotter, the slave-cylinder/release bearing becomes hotter....

5. too much heat in the slave-cylinder will damage and prematurely destroy the o-ring seals leading to slave-cylinder failure....

6. excessive slave-cylinder heating will also lead to boiling of the hydraulic fluid that actuates the slave-cylinder causing gas buildup and a spongy clutch pedal.



So in conclusion, although preloading the driveline will allow for smoother and quicker launches, the propensity for clutch damage and the need for premature replacement outweighs the usefulness of using this launch method with any regularity.


1)I am not saying hold the car there for 10min. You pull up to the line and only have a few secs after you stage before the lights start to count down. Like I said it takes a while to get it, but once you have it you can preload the car just before you launch. Its like when you first start to drive stick. 1st gear takes a while, but now its second nature and you just go.

2)Get a better clutch. Something along the lines of a South Bend Clutch. They are designed to handle higher heat and a little slipping of the clutch.

[Tourige]

The only point I was making is that we all ***** and moan that the contour is not a fast car down the strip, rather thin locate the problems as to why, and FIX them, and being able to give the rest of the automotive community a big fat middle finger while we hit the 12, 11, and even faster times!

*OK, wishful thinking maybe...

Except no one will give a rats ass if a contour makes it into the 12's except the people on this board.

[Ray]

Except no one will give a rats ass if a contour makes it into the 12's except the people on this board.


And the mustang owner who happened to stage up next to him, maybe?


:D :D

[Tourige]

And the mustang owner who happened to stage up next to him, maybe?


:D :D

haha, shocked maybe, yes.

But he isnt going to jump up and down and have a fit like 90% of the people on this board would.:laugh:

[HolyRollerzC3]

haha, shocked maybe, yes.

But he isnt going to jump up and down and have a fit like 90% of the people on this board would.:laugh:

well, at least the owner of the said contour can truly be proud of his creation, its something that hasnt been done, unlike mustangs!

[Keyser]

I'm pretty sure I remember Keyser pulling a ~14.1 @ 112 or 114.

Mark

I don't have the slip anymore to prove it, but it was at SpeedWorld in AZ. It was 14.1 @ 112. People who witnessed were shocked I could run a time so slow with a trap so fast. I'm surprised you remembered Mark, I was kind of embarrased about it. 388fwhp and 360tq and I got SERVED by DemonSVT and his N/A 3L.

My biggest problem tracking that car was that there was so much torque off the line for that platform that the trans was pulled into neutral almost every time. All I could conclude was that the shift cable got pulled tight from the flex and pulled it out of gear.

[warmonger]

I don't have the slip anymore to prove it, but it was at SpeedWorld in AZ. It was 14.1 @ 112. People who witnessed were shocked I could run a time so slow with a trap so fast. I'm surprised you remembered Mark, I was kind of embarrased about it. 388fwhp and 360tq and I got SERVED by DemonSVT and his N/A 3L.

My biggest problem tracking that car was that there was so much torque off the line for that platform that the trans was pulled into neutral almost every time. All I could conclude was that the shift cable got pulled tight from the flex and pulled it out of gear.


YES! That is exactly what happened when the drivetrain would rock. That much power would flex all the mounts. Did you have a solid mount at all or stock mounts?

[Redlineracer12]

My biggest problem tracking that car was that there was so much torque off the line for that platform that the trans was pulled into neutral almost every time. All I could conclude was that the shift cable got pulled tight from the flex and pulled it out of gear.

Maybe thats why I keep pulling my shift cables apart :idea: ;)

[Keyser]

I had a solid bracket going from the bolt of the rear mount and welded to the subframe. It eliminated wheel hop, but didn't stop the flexing.

[KyleQ]

Maybe thats why I keep pulling my shift cables apart :idea: ;)

Hmm - you actually beat on your car?

[Pole120]

It eliminated wheel hop, but didn't stop the flexing.


I'm hoping to have some anti-flex products available in spring. They're being built on the R&D track car this winter. I'm hoping they help ETs as much as my poly mounts did.

[IonNinja]

just curious, what options do you guys have for traction mods?

solid mounts, traction bars, torque dampners, CABs?

[TRicker]

my engine flexes like crazy. the rear roll resistor is completely shot. hopefully pole120 forgave me and will sell me a poly one :(

[98TredSVT]

what do you mean flexing? I have the poly mounts, and when i rev the engine it doesn't move at all. Does it still move when I'm driving it hard but you can't check it by reving it when parked?

[TRicker]

:) i had my hood up and put it in reverse and moved it back a bit. my buddy said "holy #@ck man you should get new roll resistors, it looked like your intake manifold was going to hit the firewall"

[Redlineracer12]

Hmm - you actually beat on your car?

When I'm not 150+ miles from home on an engine that's not even broken in yet :idea: :laugh:

[BK4293]

Hmmmm....I wonder what Josh has in store to beat an EVO at Spring Zing....

[TRicker]

beat an evo where. i dont see them as being too fast in stock form. i watched a GSX rape an evo like four times.... i think the evo did a high 13.... the gsx did a 12. and both had similar setups as far as boost/turbo sizing and intercooling etc.

[98TredSVT]

at springs zing josh has a bet over who wins the race with hector(I think) that has the evo, their doin the 1/4 mile and whoever loses wears a dress

[Pole120]

For the lazy:

http://www.contour.org/ceg-vb/showthread.php?t=20437

[TRicker]

the contour won't hook. otherwise it would stand a chance. lol

[Pole120]

the contour won't hook.

Says you.....