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IRingTwyce
10-09-2006, 12:09 AM
Got the wiring harness sorted out (pretty sure anyway). Still wouldn't start, so I figured I'd go ahead and change the plugs. Pulled the first two, only to find them completely covered and dripping with oil, all the way up the threads. Cyls. 3 & 4 were nice and dry. Shining a light down into 1 & 2, I can see the oil pooled in the cylinder.

A little searching on the old site (http://www.contour.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=trouble&Number=399420&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=7&fpart=1) indicates this is probably just a failed valve cover gasket. This thread (http://www.contour.org/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=trouble&Number=399465&page=1&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=7&vc=1) suggests a new gasket and "plug bore seals (like o-rings)." I have never heard of plug bore seals.

Has anyone else had this problem? How is the best way to get the oil OUT of the two cylinders once I've gone to put on the new gasket? Should I try sticking a rag or paper towel down the plug hole and soak up what I can? Any suggestions here would be greatly appreciated!

Tony2005
10-09-2006, 02:39 AM
Use a clean rag. Paper towels tend to tear easily when soak with oil.

This thread suggests just oil spilled to the spark plugs.
http://www.contour.org/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=trouble&Number=387175&page=&view=&sb=5&o=&vc=1

pre98zetec
10-09-2006, 01:28 PM
oil IN the cylinder isn't usually the valve cover gasket.. oil AROUND (on top of the plugs) is usually a sign of VCG. But, they might have been covered in oil and when you took them out seeped down into the cylinders.

mcgarvey
10-12-2006, 01:00 PM
Gasket most likely (and easiest), Valve seals are possible, wiper rings unlikely.

Deweydw
10-12-2006, 02:57 PM
I had the same thing happen, changed out the VCG. no more leaking oil.

IRingTwyce
10-12-2006, 04:02 PM
I bought a new gasket several days ago. Unfortunately I won't have the time to install it until this weekend. I'll be sure and update w/ my results.

TourDeForce
10-13-2006, 01:46 PM
The oil should not be a problem. There is likely not enough oil in your cylinders to cause any damage. Be sure to clean up the spark plug boots, they'll likely have some oil on them too. Spray some carb cleaner in there & let 'em dry.

VCG replacement is fairly easy & straightforward. Hardest part is taking that damn timing belt cover off, but you may not need to bother as you should be able to just loosen the timing belt cover bolts & remove the valve cover.

IRingTwyce
10-13-2006, 04:01 PM
I got the cover off yesterday. The upper timing cover came off without a problem. Just two hex-head screws. Valve cover came off in about 60 seconds. I could see the spot where the oil was leaking through. I'm going to do a thorough cleaning of the head and VC. The old gasket left quite a bit of crusty crap, especially on the VC guides. I figure while it is off the car, I'll give a quick sandblast and paint it too. Why the hell not? I'll post pics of the final result. I should finish it up this weekend.

IRingTwyce
10-13-2006, 06:49 PM
I took an hour or so and sandblasted the valve cover. Next I'll do a little cleaning up of some rough edges, then paint, clear, and install the new gasket. Since the car's color theme is going to be blue, white, and safety yellow, I'll probably paint the cover anodized blue, with yellow and white accents & bolt heads.

Before sandblasting:
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/5369/1002882om2.th.jpg (http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1002882om2.jpg) http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/9844/1002883jm4.th.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1002883jm4.jpg)
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8923/1002884kh5.th.jpg (http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1002884kh5.jpg) http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/9260/1002885ja2.th.jpg (http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1002885ja2.jpg)

After sandblasting:
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/6506/1002887tc7.th.jpg (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1002887tc7.jpg) http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/1049/1002886iu6.th.jpg (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1002886iu6.jpg)
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9881/1002888nq9.th.jpg (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1002888nq9.jpg) http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/912/1002900qn3.th.jpg (http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1002900qn3.jpg)

More pics as work progresses.

IRingTwyce
10-17-2006, 07:40 PM
OK...Got the cover painted. It still needs some touch-up. I don't know yet if I'm going to keep the two yellow lines on it. They didn't turn out quite like I wanted them to, and for some reason as I was painting the text and stuff, my hand was shaking like a palsy victim's! I really wanted them to be narrower. The Ford emblem will need some touch-up, as the white ran a little on me. I also tossed it on the engine for a quick in-place shot. I really like how it looks. I'll probably be painting the upper timing cover yellow or white. Most likely yellow.

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4663/1002901xf3.th.jpg (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1002901xf3.jpg) http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/8464/1002903ne5.th.jpg (http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1002903ne5.jpg)
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/7848/1002907sq0.th.jpg (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1002907sq0.jpg) http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/453/1002908fa0.th.jpg (http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1002908fa0.jpg)

pre98zetec
10-17-2006, 09:31 PM
that deffinetly looks better then I thought it would! Good job

Deweydw
10-17-2006, 10:01 PM
Wow! Very nice job. IMHO, keep the stripes. They look great.

KerryKool
10-17-2006, 10:40 PM
Wow, looks great! How did you paint the cover? Powercoat?

I may have to do that to my cover.

IRingTwyce
10-18-2006, 12:08 PM
I went to Autozone and picked up some high-temp paint and primer. Just sprayed, let it dry, then baked it in the oven for 4 hours at about 150°. Then I hand lettered the raised portions. I've not done much hand painting in this fashion. My dad is the old-school sign man. I mainly stick to vinyl. If I hand-letter anything it's usually fairly large and I use the computer and plotter to lay out a pattern. So I'm using this for practice. I was surprised how much my hand was shaking. Like I had Parkinsons or something. The lettering enamel I used is just regular One-Shot sign lettering enamel. I have absolutely no idea how it will hold up heat-wise. It's entirely possible it cracks and fails and I have to do it all over again.

One interesting thing I learned at AZ while reading the paint labels: The high-temp paint I used states that it is good for INTERMITENT temps up to 500°. I then looked at some caliper paint. It said it was good for temps up to 800°!! I'll keep everyone posted on the condition of the 500° paint to see if it is necessary to use the higher temp paint.

One question from me: Does anyone know what the correct torque is for the valve cover bolts???

Deweydw
10-18-2006, 12:28 PM
One question from me: Does anyone know what the correct torque is for the valve cover bolts???

Place the valve cover into position and tighten the retaining bolts to 53-71 inch lbs. (6-8 Nm), beginning in the center of the valve cover and working outward.

I got this from my Chiltondiy.com manual.

IRingTwyce
10-18-2006, 01:33 PM
I knew to work my way outward from the middle, just didn't know the torque specs.

Thanks!!

IRingTwyce
10-18-2006, 02:11 PM
Just ordered a set of yellow 9mm Ford Racing wires. Hopefully they still have a set in stock. I think they'll compliment the cover nicely!

Kremithefrog
10-19-2006, 12:53 AM
I used 500 degree paint. It's still on the valve cover and heat shield after years. I didn't prep the surfaces other than hosing them off, so it's cracked a bit but not bad. With good prep, it'll stay on and look good for a good while. I don't know if there is a high temp clear coat available, but if so, that'd be even gooder.

IRingTwyce
10-19-2006, 11:10 AM
I don't know if there is a high temp clear coat available, but if so, that'd be even gooder.
There is. I bought a can, but decided against using it this time around.

Trademark
10-22-2006, 04:01 AM
I like the blue, are you painting with a can or your own mix?

IRingTwyce
10-22-2006, 09:29 PM
The paint is just the blue right out of the can.

saturnspeed_12
10-29-2006, 09:24 PM
not bad. i painted my block while it was out of the car new ford grey. it looks alot better then the valve cover does right now. i plan to take mine back off when i do the timing belt and repaint it or i might just powder coat it.