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Big Jim
08-31-2007, 03:21 AM
Does anyone know the correct bulb number for the rear dome light for a Mystique? I bought a used one to install in my SVT, but it is missing the bulb. It is otherwise installed (including wiring). Any help would be appreciated.
Big Jim
08-31-2007, 10:07 PM
For future reference, a 5008 bulb works great. It is the correct base, a small enough bulb to not burn the lens, and the correct 10w output.
The dome light fixture has 10w marked on it, as does the front dome light. With that knowledge I took the fixture into a parts store and checked the specs on bulbs that looked like the correct physical size.
Everything works great. It's how the car should have been built.
rocketmanrw
09-01-2007, 06:43 AM
well lets see it. post up some pics
Buddy Palumbo
09-01-2007, 11:59 AM
The rear light is one of my favorite mods I did to my SVT . Well worth the (small) effort .
CSVT1214
09-01-2007, 12:35 PM
Good to know the bulb number. I pulled my dome light from a junkyard Mystique which had a working bulb that is still working now. I did my install last year and it was the best mod I've done to the car yet.
Big Jim
09-01-2007, 05:55 PM
It's time to start thinking about a hood light, glove box light, and door handle lights. Dare I think about heated outside rear view mirrors?
Blackfoot
09-02-2007, 03:38 AM
how about side markers
CSVT1214
09-02-2007, 04:12 AM
It's time to start thinking about a hood light, glove box light, and door handle lights.
I need to get my glove box light installed. I have everything sitting around waiting for install since the spring. :blackeye:
Door handle lights next summer for me I think.
hotdimmes
09-04-2007, 02:28 PM
hey tony, wanna collab and put together an official interior bulb size/replacement faq? I have all your info and some of mine in a txt document somewheres...
dSVTj
09-04-2007, 03:44 PM
hey tony, wanna collab and put together an official interior bulb size/replacement faq? I have all your info and some of mine in a txt document somewheres...
you guys should definitely do that.
Aussie Ford
09-12-2007, 06:25 PM
Everything works great. It's how the car should have been built.
Roger that my friend,
Now that you have done that easy install, did you know that the 00's, w/o moon roof, have the center dome light with the 2 spots! I had half a notion to see if that could be installed so the spots pointed toward the rear :laugh:
I got one out of a 00 and haven't desided what to do with it yet, as I also have a couple of the Mystique lights. My wife wouldn't like the center dome one, but I could most likely install the rear Mystique w/o her realizing it (if I just left it in the off position) :laugh:
Just something more to think about,
AF
SvtTour98.5-3
09-17-2007, 05:49 PM
Also, for reference, the 5008 is not something easily found. It is however the same as either 1156 or 1157. I can't remember which.
Big Jim
09-18-2007, 01:55 AM
Not really. The 1156 has the same base but the bulb area is larger and could tend to burn the lens. The 1157 is a dual filament bulb and the offset key knobs won't go into the receptacle without damaging something. It also has the larger bulb that would be too close to the lens.
The Five-Oh!
09-20-2007, 03:11 AM
did anyone ever make a how to? I've had one sitting on my shelf since my first tour, but i just don't feel confident enough in dropping the headliner and cutting a hole in it...partly cause i don't know how the hell to drop this headliner with the moon roof.
Big Jim
09-20-2007, 03:38 AM
I didn't try to drop the entire headliner. I don't have a moonroof, but I still think it isn't necessary.
All I dropped was the back and some of the driver's side. The back can be dropped by removing the two retainer pins. The pins are two piece. The colored portion that matches the headliner color can be pulled straight out leaving the black portion. The colored portion of the pin expands the stem of the black part. Once the colored part is removed, the black part can be pulled out and the rear of the headliner pulled down gently.
With that part down, you can find the rectangular hole in the roof brace where the light fixture lines up. The upper part of the fixture fits in here. Carefully measure to find a point on the headliner that is somewhere within that hole. Poke a hole in the headliner at that point. I used an edge of a razor blade but a knife would have also worked well. An X-acto knife would work very well. With the headliner fully pushed up to the ceiling so the hole in the roof brace can be used to define the limits, carve out the rest of the hole in the headliner. I used an old steak knife so I could saw away at it.
Then I removed the left rear grab bar from the ceiling and the B pillar molding (around the seat belt retractor). Also had to peel back the door opening gaskets. Next I removed the front dome light. Make sure you don't break the bezel. Remove the center part first and then remove the screws holding the bezel.
I had to use a fish tape (electricians tool) to feed the wiring from the rear to the front. I had the wiring from a Mystique to the rear. I cut off the portions I didn't need, and spliced the wires from the rear light to the wiring for the front near the connector to the switch.
Your experience may be different.
The Five-Oh!
09-20-2007, 03:45 AM
yea, i might just stick to not having a rear dome light, at least until i get the motivation, or find someone that'll do it.
BrApple
09-20-2007, 08:41 AM
cutting the headliner is pretty easy ... I doulbe checked on my mystique first but I measured from the back of the headliner to the center of the light and then found the distance between the plastic pins and cut a hole in the headliner. I then worked out until I hit the openning in the roof and then cut it out. All you need to do then is run the wires around the edge of the headliner to the front dome light and connect.
my question is where can I get a white led that is a drop in for the rear dome light?
Aussie Ford
09-20-2007, 11:19 AM
This is really fairly easy to do. The hole in the back is there in the support, like stated all you need to do is follow around the edge and your done. It is centered betwen the two retainers in the back, and you tie them to the front light at the corner of the "A" pillar up front.
There is a HOW TO about this.
my 2 cents,
AF
todras
09-23-2007, 11:19 PM
Well, I've done the front door pockets (rears need to be manually wired I found), glove box light, and heated mirrors. Just need to find an early Mys. at the JY for the rear dome.
CSVT1214
09-23-2007, 11:29 PM
Well, I've done the front door pockets (rears need to be manually wired I found), glove box light, and heated mirrors. Just need to find an early Mys. at the JY for the rear dome.
Doesn't need to be an early Mystique. It was carried over into 98+.
I think it was dropped for 2000 though.
The Five-Oh!
09-23-2007, 11:41 PM
Well, I've done the front door pockets (rears need to be manually wired I found), glove box light, and heated mirrors. Just need to find an early Mys. at the JY for the rear dome.
let me know when you wanna install my rear dome light :laugh:
striker2
09-23-2007, 11:58 PM
Just need to find an early Mys. at the JY for the rear dome.
If i had known i would have picked up the one from the 95 mystique that i saw at the junkyard today. i dont think ill be going back for a while though.
99Mystique ATX
10-15-2007, 12:21 AM
I've got one laying around that I planned on installing in my Mystique but never got around to it.
I may install it in the CSVT, but I don't want to cut the headliner in the wrong spot...
Actually now that I think of it, I may have two of these laying around...
CSVT1214
10-15-2007, 01:26 PM
I've got one laying around that I planned on installing in my Mystique but never got around to it.
I may install it in the CSVT, but I don't want to cut the headliner in the wrong spot...
Actually now that I think of it, I may have two of these laying around...
If you cut in the wrong spot then you need glasses. :laugh:
Just remove the rear plugs on the headliner first and put your hand under there. Feel around on the roof for the hole. Then just poke a hole in the headliner and keep expanding the hole until it's the right size. You really can't screw up.
The light also covers any imperfections in the cut.
Big Jim
10-16-2007, 01:55 AM
For future reference, I found the bulb base that came with mine. The glass part was missing when I received it, but the base was there. The base disappeared while I was doing the installation.
In very small print, etched into the metal, was the number 5008.
Also of slight interest is another possible source. When getting something out of the back of the Escape over the weekend, I looked up at the dome light at the very rear of the headliner, and at first glance it looks the same as the one I installed in the SVT.
hotdimmes
10-16-2007, 12:07 PM
For future reference, I found the bulb base that came with mine. The glass part was missing when I received it, but the base was there. The base disappeared while I was doing the installation.
In very small print, etched into the metal, was the number 5008.
Also of slight interest is another possible source. When getting something out of the back of the Escape over the weekend, I looked up at the dome light at the very rear of the headliner, and at first glance it looks the same as the one I installed in the SVT.
I bought a ba15s (http://www.donsbulbs.com/cgi-bin/r/b.pl/89%7Eusa.html) based bulb that also fit. Although it burned out quickly...stupid cheap "xenon" bulbs...
The Five-Oh!
10-16-2007, 12:25 PM
is there a wiring diagram or what to do, cause i'm suddenly feeling motivated to do this.
hotdimmes
10-16-2007, 12:30 PM
Match the wires from the rear domelight to the same wires on the front dome light. Done!
The Five-Oh!
10-16-2007, 12:32 PM
my biggest issue is just how much crap i have to pull to drop the headliner and run the wires and stuff.
hotdimmes
10-16-2007, 12:35 PM
Yeah that's not all that fun but not that bad. I snaked my wiring along the driver's side of the hoodliner. It's pretty easy but be gentle around the area where the oh-crap handles are. You don't want to pull too hard and put a crease in the headliner near that area. I think I removed the A pillar and the rear pillar and just pulled the liner out for access.
The Five-Oh!
10-16-2007, 12:37 PM
damnit, someone needs to do a how to with pics....and the weather sucks outside, so maybe another day.
hotdimmes
10-16-2007, 12:40 PM
damnit, someone needs to do a how to with pics....and the weather sucks outside, so maybe another day.
Just go to your car and look! It's so easy, if I can do it anyone can! And I'm mostly retarded, mostly! A straightened out coathanger helps to run wire a little bit as well.
CSVT1214
10-16-2007, 01:14 PM
I think with a sunroof you should drop the headliner. I thought about trying to route the wires around with the headliner in place but it saved tons of time to just drop it down.
BrApple
10-16-2007, 01:25 PM
just pull the weather stripping back around the door and tuck the wires up under the headliner ... hardest part is gettin the wires from the light location to the edge of the headliner and a straightened hanger works well ...
blu_fuz
10-16-2007, 03:07 PM
just buy a 95 SE
how about side markers
The Five-Oh!
10-16-2007, 03:09 PM
I think with a sunroof you should drop the headliner. I thought about trying to route the wires around with the headliner in place but it saved tons of time to just drop it down.
that's what i was thinking, might do some reading on removing the headliner, cause that way i can make sure it's all spiffy and up to my standards.
blu_fuz
10-16-2007, 03:10 PM
can this be installed with a rear roof mount antenna? I don't know if there is enough room in there for both....
The Five-Oh!
10-16-2007, 03:12 PM
just move the antenna forward a bit or something.
Aussie Ford
10-16-2007, 05:18 PM
that's what i was thinking, might do some reading on removing the headliner, cause that way i can make sure it's all spiffy and up to my standards.
Don't make this harder than it needs to be. By removing the retainers in the back, loosening up the rear and center pillar trim, removing the rear grab handle, removing the drivers sun visor, and the A pillar trim one has more than enough play to access the area without damage to the head liner. Make the splice to the wires in the A pillar area there is plenty of room. You will even have room to pop in the hanger clips if you want. I do think that with a moonroof I would remove the trim welt around the inside of the opening it just pulls off.
Now if you were really particular you could remove the entire harnsess from a mystique w/ or wo/ moonroof, clip it in the A pillar area and after dropping the headliner reinstall it. That would be the closest to factory :laugh:
AF
The Five-Oh!
10-16-2007, 05:20 PM
i'm not that worried, but i am going to need to investigate which wires are which on the a-pillar.
Aussie Ford
10-16-2007, 08:39 PM
i'm not that worried, but i am going to need to investigate which wires are which on the a-pillar.
Just match the colors.There are only the courtsey lights and moonroof power (which is purple/white). Just match and splice to the other three, and it's a done deal.
AF
The Five-Oh!
10-16-2007, 08:39 PM
oh, well then it should make it easy haha thanks
Aussie Ford
10-16-2007, 09:13 PM
My pleasure :laugh:
AF
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