my 98 SVT Vs a 97 3.5l Intrepid

[97vulcan]

Just curious, what do people think? will my SVT win? would it be close? or would my friend win? :shrug:


Adam

[The Five-Oh!]

if you lose to an intrepid in an svt you must suck at driving something terrible.

[97vulcan]

if you lose to an intrepid in an svt you must suck at driving something terrible.
thanks for the info! I just wanted to know if I would win going against the intrepid with a 3.5. They feel fast when I drive his car.

[The Five-Oh!]

thanks for the info! I just wanted to know if I would win going against the intrepid with a 3.5. They feel fast when I drive his car.

however we do not promote street racing, so take it to a track. But it'd almost be a waste of time/money since i'm sure you will win.

[97vulcan]

I don't street race, thats why I was asking on the forum. I would hope I would win, but you never know, since the 3.5 puts out more power.

Thanks,
Adam

[The Five-Oh!]

I don't street race, thats why I was asking on the forum. I would hope I would win, but you never know, since the 3.5 puts out more power.

Thanks,
Adam

if you can get a good launch you should be able to take him for sure, and if all else fails, find a road course and stick it to him haha

[cnewton44]

Umm you worried about your 2.5L 5 speed not beating an intrepid with a slushbox?





Something seems wrong with that:shrug:

Edit: Remember that SVT's are a high RPM motor and if you launch right with minimal wheelspin.... Shouldnt have ANY problem.

[FavoriteMystaque]

Please, no broken differentials!!:nonono::blackeye:

[The Five-Oh!]

Please, no broken differentials!!:nonono::blackeye:

he could probably pussy-foot it and pull away.

[cnewton44]

I would honestly hope so. Psh... That slushbox aint got nothin on an SVT:cool:

[CSVTkid]

that brings something up. my friend has a 96 atomatic volvo with stock turbo everything is stock and im not sure what model. it might even be as early as a 93 but he say that its faster then my car? is this true havent seen him much this summer:shrug:

[Pen_Two]

Year/Make/Model/0-60/.25 mile

1993 Dodge Intrepid ES 8.8 16.5
1994 Dodge Intrepid 10.3 17.5
1998 Dodge Intrepid 8.9 16.7
2000 Dodge Intrepid R/T 7.8 16.0

I don't think you have anything to worry about. :cool:

[SVT for a16 year-old]

so what are our stock times?

[striker2]

so what are our stock times?


how about you look at the sticky at the top of this forum:help:

[SVT for a16 year-old]

dee dee dee. forgive me. its 8 am n im not fully awake. yet alone. functional.

[qbcsvt]

Bet on the race???? Make some money or who ever loses pays for the track/drag day....

Looks to be a free day for you.....

- Amyn

[drivebymashing]

i raced a charger 3.5 auto he was in front and he never pulled me but i never pulled him either

[Pen_Two]

i raced a charger 3.5 auto he was in front and he never pulled me but i never pulled him either

The R/T (which I assume comes with the Hemi) is only good for low to mid 14's. The SRT-8 Charger is good for mid to high 13's. So I imagine the 3.5 is probably closer to mid to high 15's.

[drivebymashing]

yes iknow my contour is slow a friggin charger almost outran me....
a 6 banger charger the 6800 pound one

[SVT_Mystique]

I think the intrepid might give you a run for your money... my buddy used to have one, it wasn't that fast but it wasn't that slow either. Try it on a race track and video tape it so we can see

[deesea]

I can't find 0-60 times, but for 1/4 miles

SVTC - 15.249 @ 89.170
Trep - 16.253 @ 83.460

[Harrry]

if you lose to an intrepid in an svt you must suck at driving something terrible.

LOL

Were you not the one who ran high 16's or low 17s back in the day with your old green svt :laugh:

[Pen_Two]

LOL

Were you not the one who ran high 16's or low 17s back in the day with your old green svt :laugh:

Zing!

[The Five-Oh!]

LOL

Were you not the one who ran high 16's or low 17s back in the day with your old green svt :laugh:

it was a high 15 jackass, and it was highschool nationals, therefore they don't prep a damn thing.

[JoeM]

it was a high 15 jackass, and it was highschool nationals, therefore they don't prep a damn thing.


Your Differential thanks them...

[Harrry]

it was a high 15 jackass, and it was highschool nationals, therefore they don't prep a damn thing.

No it was high 16's, as you stated. You were pissed at how a ****ty run you had. Your best time was a high 15 back then....

[yamaha racer 686]

ha I STREET RACE!!!!!!!!!

































My Big wheel hahahahahahahahahaha

[1FASTDAD]

for some reason i just found that quite funny...almost spit out my drink

[Drink]

for some reason i just found that quite funny...almost spit out my drink
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[The Five-Oh!]

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Ewwwwwww, but hey, he kept it in his mouth. :help:

[dTour]

Ewwwwwww, but hey, he kept it in his mouth. :help:

guess that doesn't make him a spitter, it makes him a swallower hahahaha

[The Five-Oh!]

guess that doesn't make him a spitter, it makes him a swallower hahahaha

probably swishes it around for consistency and taste.

[Ray]

alright, now....

[TourDeForce]

So, after all that it seems Adam will beat his mom's intrepid with his SVT.

[97vulcan]

Ha! my name is Adam, but its my friends intrepid. :)

-Adam

[Hooterlure69]

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[jaysturbozx10r]

you should be at the slushbox LOL, I think those have 214 hp and more torque than our 2.5 though, so shift the heck out of it

[linuxglobal]

the intrepid is lighter than the charger
Stay away from the SXT/RT. They have sport suspensions and autostick in most cases.

I had a 99 svt and still have my 03 intrepid SXT. The intrepid has 3.89 gearing vs the 3.68 that was stock so it has greater acceleration gain similar to the prowler (similar gearing).

Dont forget the prowler uses the same engine and tranny as the 3.5HO intrepid (255 HP, 250 torque).

I just wanted to keep up with the contour when i had mine, a friend that bought it raced me and gave it all it had at the time, the trep won by about a car lenght.

Keep in mind that cars do degrade over time. SO you may have beat a 95 intrepid with your 2000 svt but if you have say 100k miles you will have a hard time against a newish intrepid with more power that can meet more of its efficiency.

Intrepids redline at 6500rpm. Autostick will let the trep stay in high revs and out of overdrive. Straight away he will beat you with a 2nd gen 3.5HO, if its a base one with the 2.7L then no. You were saying its a 95 i think so it has no chance, those things were slow as hell and if he tries to redline it, he will have issues at that age and mileage. Mind you your ford is getting old too.

However that being said, we raced on a back road, stay away from any cop infested areas.

Also on the topic of small fast cars (or slow rather). My 07 civic EX is the slowest thing ever. If you race civics, its not even considered a win.

[Savior]

...Stay away from the SXT/RT. They have sport suspensions and autostick in most cases.

I had a 99 svt and still have my 03 intrepid SXT. The intrepid has 3.89 gearing vs the 3.68 that was stock so it has greater acceleration gain similar to the prowler (similar gearing)...

What about a 98 E0 SVt with cold air intake, a couple of exhaust mods, and an XCalibrator2 tuner chip with the performance program? Any hope there?

[linuxglobal]

tuner chips arent really an amazing mod.

Dyno would be the best assessment to get your power to the wheels.

The intrepid gets about 187 brute HP to the wheels out of 3.5HO. Im not sure of the other motors. The 3.5HO stock claims around 250hp but in reality the dyno is around 190 with a CAI and tuned exhaust.

Generally for its size the intrepid is made to keep up with the 99-03 TL-P (3.2L Vtec).

I dont street race so i have no idea how it keeps up but overall for its size its pretty quick seeing how it is a full size automatic v6 made for 60yr + drivers.

One thing i always hated about my contour was the basic interior. Absolutely ghetto beyond belief.

Even Chrysler did a better job in the 98 startup lineup LOL.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d27/linuxglobal/RB1/DSC05248.jpg
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Im a pretty big chrysler guy for another few months and then its all about the G coupe LOL. Also as a word of advice, the contour svt has no chance against the charger srt8 or g35 (even 04 auto). The Charger pulls away not at the amazing 5.0sec its rated at but nearly 6 seconds flat without any slip in autostick. I had a chance to take one out for a test drive when i was getting some maintenance done. They are quite a beast but due to its low resale value, the intrepid is my last American vehicle to date. Not because its unreliable because i havent had any issues at all, you will see throughout the forums that any intrepids with the exception of the 2.7L oil sludge have been flawless. But resale is just terrible, so im switching to infiniti for the future and sticking to their G coupe series.

Overall ford did a decent job with the svt, however completely ruined the 2.0L, my mom had that car and it gave up before 100k km. Timing idler gave up. Again resale on any ford is terrible, maybe the svt has a rare factor but not to most people.

Im kind of glad that this forum actually mentions possible large sedans keeping up with small so called race vehicles. Its funny how much power is packed into large sedans nowadays. Japanese sedans are getting faster and faster, the v6 accord and g35 sedan are pretty fast affordable vehicles for their size. So i guess we will see more and more middle aged drivers racing out there.

[linuxglobal]

heres a video of a 3.89 gear setup going 0-60 mph in an autostick tranny that the R/T sports.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuM04ntoBSo

Only thing is overdrive, if you notice when he starts OD is causing the engine to stay under 4000rpm, once it goes over 6000 rpm it gets to haul.

heres an example of a tuned stock exhaust that fits the intrepid which i have on my own.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yvUGeGjQcM

What the intrepid guys do is upgrade the intrepids to the 300m special which was the sporty version because all of the parts fit. Ie someone converting over to an SVT.


CM

[BrandonSVT99]

At the track I have taken down a 2000 intrepid,stratus r/t and a purple prowler.Prowler beingthe closest followed by the other not even giving me any trouble.But I have not raced the older gen 300 S.E. but they do look pretty quick but the weight on those cars is so much and the auto tranny I think they run ot of steam on the top end whn our cars (svt) are really starting to kick ass. just my input.

[linuxglobal]

the 2000 models had smaller engines in the intrepids anyways.

The prowler is faster off the line, way faster than a contour anyways.

Its rated at around 6.3 seconds 0-60mph. Around the track i cant comment so it all comes down to where you are racing this vehicle.

[reddired]

4 the record, the 3.5H.O. 99+ are screamers!
I would rate them almost the fastest domestic (factory non modded) v-6 out there without sc's/turbo's.

Any faster?

my x-wyf had a 99 3.5H.O. (LHS) and that thing would spin the fronts like nothing!
if your CSVT lined up with a non accplished driver, you'd probaly beat him with nifty shifts, but if you line up with a "driver", even with a 3.5HO ATX, that slushbox can be worked to out perform the CSVT.

I know.......:nonono:

[linuxglobal]

dont forget some people dont advertise what they are pushing under their treps LOL...

I know for one that the upgraded oem 300m special exhaust doesnt seem like much but its adds up overall not to mention altered gearing which most forum intrepid guys have done already.

I changed my gears to the 3.89 to increase the acceleration, the speedo had to be reprogrammed to take the ratio into account but shifts are much faster and the auto tranny does help vs a manual off the line.

The R/T and SXT / 300m/ LHS models shared the same design overall, same engine, tranny, gearing and breaking systems for the most part. Some suspensions parts were different. Also dont forget chyrsler made an error on their police sway bar, a 360$ part is sold for 36$ HHAHAH.. so a lot of ppl took advantage of that little mistake.

I dont think an svt would have an issue against the 97 intrepid tho, just because its so old and the SOHC is probably dying down, some older members on our forum have NOS in their LHS 98s etc... but overall most engines are dying.

Also keep in mind most intrepids are slow because they need to fly over 4000 rpm to get any real power and the stock tranny wont let u do it off the line unless u peel off and most old drivers will not do this to race to a red. If they have autostick they can always down shift max 2 gears lower. The intrepid like many older american cars have a lot of cabin nose, its very very loud at 4000+ rpm range so most ppl will stay at 2000ish which is 0-60 in prob 20 seconds.

It would be a close call to a newer model intrepid, but IMO having driven both cars i would be careful with fords reliability with that engine as ive had issues with mine and ive seen others with problems too, also make sure the intrepid is racing LOL that should be #1 on ur list.

Ive been a g35 man for a while now and even with the G35 there are some flaws, shifts are awesome but the very well geared 5 spd auto is a bit annoying taking off as the car falls back often. Its still fast but shifts way too frequently, about 3-4 shifts before 80 kph.

Anyways thats a bit of a ramble, hopefully ull find an answer on a dyno run. I know my trep ran about 191 hp in its stock form with just a K/N CAI and it has a 3.5HO running on 89 octane. I dont know about others but i may have gotten one in a million reliable chryslers LOL because i know of all the stories, cant argue with no maintenance or break downs in 70,000 km so i cant complain and its still in warranty until 115km or another 1 year LOL.

Whatever you do just dont get your car taken away or fined more than the car is worth LOL. Its up to 10k in ontario right now, some hefty laws on speeding.

CM

[fordracing25]

hhaha....i had a 94. first car i ever spent to much money on. swapped a 3.5 high output from a 300, power demon trans,trans star shift kit, 300M special ed. gear set, phanton grip LSD, NX 100 shot. K&N cone filter, asp pulleys, msd dis-4 ignition, m,agnecor 8.5mm plug wires, air raid throttle body spacers, iRotors cross drilled/slotted rotors, hawk hps pads, eibach pro kit, kyb gr-2 struts, to many neons to list, black with tan leather, 1100 watts of alpine bass, 2 3 1/2 kenwoods on the dash, 6 3/4 kenwoods in door, 2 6x9 kenwoods on the rear deck, plus way to many other things i forgot. i spent way to much money on this car. it was my first and i had her for 6 years 258,000 miles. wya to much wheel spin. she was a blast to drive though. i was on those forums for soooooooooo long, thats what got me hooked on cars. i still have the dyno sheet some where, ill find it and post it. got a couple videos also. man this brought back memories.

[reddired]

@ FORDRACING25 : you are right......way too much wheel spin! just think if we put some really sticky tires up front.............:cool:

[fordracing25]

ahahah..... I was so excited to see somebody else from DI.net. I assume thats the forums you were speaking of? The phanton grip made a huge difference. i personally loved the car and have considered getting another. It was huge and all tan leather inside and i loved how the front seats slid all the way forward and tilted towards the windshield. That made the back seat quite convenient in my high school days.

[wlwarrior77]

Usualy when me and my friends want to see who's faster we just race idk just an idea:shrug: