I guess I need to learn to drive...

[HolyRollerzC3]

At the track tonight, racing with jjsvtc, somehow I can not get out of the 15.4 range. I can post the slips, but both times I had a .450 or so reaction time, and felt like I ran strong, but I guess not. Any helpful hints and tips, I have only made two passes in my life, and so far, not impressive!

I guess, if its any consolation, jjsvtc and his stock ride(bat trans, stage 2 clutch, and fidanza flywheel, and a k&n) was running 16.0 and 16.1...

We need help!

[Pudmunkie]

R/T has no effect on 1/4 mile times. 60 ft times are what help 1/4 times

[Harrry]

At the track tonight, racing with jjsvtc, somehow I can not get out of the 15.4 range. I can post the slips, but both times I had a .450 or so reaction time, and felt like I ran strong, but I guess not. Any helpful hints and tips, I have only made two passes in my life, and so far, not impressive!

I guess, if its any consolation, jjsvtc and his stock ride(bat trans, stage 2 clutch, and fidanza flywheel, and a k&n) was running 16.0 and 16.1...

We need help!

IIRC 98's ran 15.6-15.7 stock.
99+00 ran 15.4-15.5

So you are running faster than what your model times were stock. Plus how many miles are on the car?

Also what was your rpms at when you launced? Did you spin your tires at all?

[HolyRollerzC3]

really didnt spin the tires at all, my 60 FEET times were 2.378 and 2.388, launch was abot 2500,

run 1:

R/T: .554
60': 2.378
330: 6.562
1/8: 9.972
MPH: 72.14
1000: 12.871
1/4: 15.324
MPH: 90.96


run 2:

R/T: .428
60' : 2.388
330: 6.598
1/8: 10.055
MPH: 71.03
1000: 12.980
1/4: 15.457
MPH: 90.43

[Harrry]

my 60 second times were

If you ran the 1/4 mile in 15 seconds then how did you run your 60 seconds again :laugh:

It is 60 feet. not seconds lol

[grahamb]

15.3 is half a second off my stock time i ran a 15.7, i went on the first cold weekend of the month florida humidity sucks that is something else too consider, its not as big a deal on NA as it is on Forced induction but there a differance

[HolyRollerzC3]

If you ran the 1/4 mile in 15 seconds then how did you run your 60 seconds again :laugh:

It is 60 feet. not seconds lol


I was posting while in bed, after working a 11 hour day, and was tired, sorry!


And it was hot as hll out last night, you would sweat jsut standing there, and from what i understand, at drag strips they lay some stuff down for traction that they didn't use last night cause it was for the streetlegal not really fast guys! I don't know much about it... i think I am going to remove my 2 cats, and see if its too loud and see if they are restrcting my flow too much!???!

Joes machine ran slower last night, and this other guy who normally runs 15.5 was running 16.2 al lnight, so who knows, maybe it was too hot and the track was jsut slow?!

Will try again next time I go though...

[Pole120]

2.378 and 2.388

Those 60' times suck.....work on your launching and get them down...

[HolyRollerzC3]

well, stock clutch, i didn't want to push it too hard, i jsut talked with my mechanic, i do have a few issues that i need to fix:

a: my imrc cable is frayed very badly, like 2 wires is all I have holding it
b: tire size is not ideal
c: i had taken off my cold air box
d: i am going to put my stock maf pipe back on
e: my lower control arm bushings are shot, got new LCA that are going on monday, i was a littel gentle on launch because of that...

what rpm do most of you NA guys launch at?

Im gonna change out the IMRC bx with the other box I have with a good cable, gonna get a upgraded clutch, and lightened flywheel, and proper tire size, and we'll see if anythign makes a difference.

I also took my xcal2 and took the car back to stock, and there was no real difference in performance, so I don't know what my tune, its its ideal or not, and if I should have put an xpipe in my true duals?!

[PDXSVT]

Get those odds and ends fixed, but back on point: What tires? At what psi? Stock diff? I did not see from your signature line. And about going from xcal2 back to stock tune, who had done your tune with the xcal2? If you ran your times on a stock tune, there have to be more ponies there. Don't know if a newer clutch will help that much.

[HolyRollerzC3]

i have a stock diff, i dont knwo for sure about the psi, but the tire size is 215 40 17, my shifts were fine i think, i made very deliberate shifts, i didnt leave it to chance about missing, so they were slower then they could ahve been, and the second run i took it all the way to 7200 and was shifting when i went through the markers... so that might have had soemthign todo with it...

i did take the box off, and the cable is about 1/3 inch longer then the box without the frayed cable, so i am sure that makes a huge difference...???

Can anyone tell me what the weight of e0's are comapred to konig unknowns 17X7.5? I am thinking about putting some different tires on those for the strip, dont know if its worth it or not though?!

[catfish]

To help with your r/t treat the last yellow as the green. The reason yours is so large is because it takes time for hands/feet to move and time for the the mechanics of the car to engage, so you need to "predict" the green.

[HolyRollerzC3]

the reaction time i know needs work, it will come with practice, these were my first two runs EVER!

And to answer, warmonger at nautilus did my tune, so I don't know, I might have done somethign wrong or something... I know he is THE guy to go for for all your tuning needs!

[Barge]

If you never spun your tires launching you never tried hard enough.

Is that thing actually tuned because with headers and etc it should be a good deal higher.

[HolyRollerzC3]

i know right... i thoguht it would be faster

and i didn't launch hard cause of stock clutch, and LCA bushings being shot!

[Pole120]

My old SE did 15.1 with 150k miles and just a cat-back, SVT UIM and TB and an intake....original clutch and all season tires.

it's you...not the car most likely...

[HolyRollerzC3]

well, i think the imrc has something to do with it, i think not beating the clutch had something to do with it, but i still think my car is not as fast as it should be!

[jamesmason1]

[quote=HolyRollerzC3;201210]I was posting while in bed, after working a 11 hour day, and was tired, sorry!


And it was hot as hll out last night, you would sweat jsut standing there, and from what i understand,

Joes machine ran slower last night, and this other guy who normally runs 15.5 was running 16.2 al lnight, so who knows, maybe it was too hot and the track was jsut slow?! [quote]

I don't want to hear about how hot it is out there, Try being in the Desert during the summer where the humidity is instant swamp nutz and the temp seldomly gets below 85f and the mid day temp is usually 125+. with 80+ humidity. I'm cranky and hot I'm gonna stop ranting now. Sorry don't take it personnal.

[HolyRollerzC3]

it was over 90 degress with 90% humidity the other night, i wasn't complaining, I live in florida, thats what happens... I just was stateing all the facts to get as much help as I could, ya know...

[jamesmason1]

it was over 90 degress with 90% humidity the other night, i wasn't complaining, I live in florida, thats what happens... I just was stateing all the facts to get as much help as I could, ya know...

I was just joking with you bro. I was ranting about how hot it is where I'm at, because I'm sick of it, unlike you I am complaining about the heat. lol

[HolyRollerzC3]

its hard to sense emotions online, i didn't think you weere being mean, as i wasn't... quit complaining about heat, as i watch ice road truckers, where its 40 below, i am so happy abut the heat here, LOL

[elraido]

It is about 65 where I am now....what heat? LOL

[Redlineracer12]

My old SE did 15.1 with 150k miles and just a cat-back, SVT UIM and TB and an intake....original clutch and all season tires.

it's you...not the car most likely...

I agree that its probably not your car, not saying you are driving bad either though. I ran a 15.6 my first time at the track with a few good solid bolt-ons (178whp) and my 60' times were a little higher than his. Those times aren't too shabby in my book for the first time out. You'd be surprised how much time you can shave off your 1/4 just by launching harder with better 60' times but of course thats not the best idea with a stock diff, worn clutch, and junk tires either :rolleyes:

[HolyRollerzC3]

well, i had new lower control arms installed (i installed them) and the ball joints and lca bushing were gone, 3 of them moved pretty freely, t was scary to think I was driving on them. My tires aren't the best, and it is a stock clutch and diff, which I think in the next few months, I should be able to swing a clutch, flywheel and diff... so next time out should be a little better, also putting two different sets of tires on my old e0's which are lighter, and gonna tinker with different tire sizes!

[shizapooh]

My tires aren't the best, and it is a stock clutch and diff, which I think in the next few months, I should be able to swing a clutch, flywheel and diff.

My first time running svt with intake was a 15.7 i shaved it all off tho down to a 15.4 stock.

[csvt2200]

I'll never take my CSVT to the track personally...Why? Because it's not a car you race IMO. "Unless" you have some serious mods, such as a 3.0L or Turbo, OR BOTH! Otherwise, I guess it's just cool to see if you can hit the low 15's, which is pretty weak for a 1/4 time worth talking about IMO once again...:laugh: But maybe i'm jealous that i can't afford insurance on a real ford... Mustang, FTW!

[HolyRollerzC3]

i went to the track cause ive been told its fun, which it was, and i wanted to be involved with it... not because I thought my car was a stellar drag racing machine!

[Andy Bennett]

Seat time, seat time, seat time. There's not substitute for experience.

I've had the Cougar out twice. In 2004, I ran 15.9, and in 2005 I pared it down to a 15.3. I think I could pretty easily hit 14.9's now, but I've net been able to get back to the track in AGES.

[svttouruofl]

what rpm do most of you NA guys launch at?

I have never been to the track or actually recorded a 1/4 mile time but I have been playing around pretty hard and working on my launches since I have to pull the tranny and fix my 3rd gear synchro.

But from what I have found my best launches come from preloading the axles and launching from about 4700-5000 rpms. Since I know that I am putting a different clutch and completely rebuilding the tranny I am being very hard on it as I said and I normally slip the clutch as much as I can before the e-brake can no longer hold the car back within that rmp range. I once launched from 6000 rmps and I almost had fully disengaged the clutch prior to launch. The car was creeping on launch due to the e-brake not holding it back. But after that launch my clutch smelled horrible.

But like I said that's what I have found to be the best launches. I have almost no wheel spin at the 4700-5000rmp launch and a mild amount at the 6000rmp launch. This is in a basically stock SVT(MAF adapter, K&N filter, and custom cat-back exhaust) with Eibachs and 225 40 18's for tires.

[Andy Bennett]

E-brake? I think you're maikng this way too complicated.

I launch my 2.5 at about 3500 with a slipping clutch. Too many RPM's and I just spin WAY too much, or get wheel hop.

Perhaps if I had a limited-slip, I would launch closer to 5000.

[stealthy3L]

More you go to the track, the better you get.

I cut a good time considering I had no LSD at the time of runs.

On my 3L, I basically rev to 4,500-5,000, and modulate the launch with the clutch as a power switch. It's all about traction- I used BFG DR's and have various items (PF-SL and filled mounts) to avoid wheel hop. It's really that simple- I cut a 2.07 60' like that and I wasn't pushing it all that hard, either.

[svttouruofl]

I've found that preloading the axles and using the ebrake makes for a much better and easier launch. But thats just my .02

[stealthy3L]

It probably is "better," and better for the axles but they're not that expensive, I just dump it and forget about it :laugh:

[svttouruofl]

Play around with it a couple times and give it a try. I thought that it seemed really complicated at first too, but I really like it and it really is fairly simple. I guarantee that your 60' and RT times will decrease.

[HolyRollerzC3]

thanks for the advice...

[svtpimp]

My first time at the track I couldn't do better than a 15.9@88, that was with my 17" mondeos and wai. Went with headers, 15" steel winter rims with bald blizzaks and ran 15.2@92 and I wasnt even launching hard, no wheel spin. I think when I install my CAI extension and get an xcal2 with a nice hard launch 14.9 would be feasable. Practice makes perfect.

[HolyRollerzC3]

forgive my ignorance, but what is wai?

[Redlineracer12]

forgive my ignorance, but what is wai?

warm air intake? :laugh: didn't know that was actually an acronym.

[Andy Bennett]

warm air intake? :laugh: didn't know that was actually an acronym.


Yeah, it's an unnecessary detail. A short intake is just an "intake". You specify if it has a cold-air extension.

[HolyRollerzC3]

well, i did take the heat shield box off the night before i raced, adnlike i previously posted, it was at night, when extremely hot, heat index of almost 100

[Andy Bennett]

A buddy of mine ran better times after he removed his "cold air box". I think those are just a "choke your airflow" box, really...

[HolyRollerzC3]

i feel slower at top end though without it