arizonians...

[NickNick]

whats up, anybodyin the phoenix area up to meet somewere, sometime and trade some knowledge and wisdom. :-P

[morbid]

Hey... it's the red CSVT!!

There aren't that many Contour enthusiasts left around here... so we usually meet up with the Focus & Cougar guys. Rodewaryer ususally does a good job of crossposting their meets here.

I think the next meet is a mountain run on Oct 13-14. It'll be overnight camping, but I'll be going up either later Friday night or very early Saturday morning.

[Nezerconezer]

I could be up for a meet as well, but dont look for any real knowledge on the car. I've had mine for 6 months, and havent really done much to it.

[sk8token]

I'm from Phoenix, going to school at UA in Tucson. I have a white 96 GL that looks sorta like an SE (at least outside heh). Im always looking for an early SE to eventually do the 3L swap with.

Anyway, just wanted to say hi

[NickNick]

alright cool, maybe sometime this weekend we can meet up somewere any idea's..


and morid, the way you said hey is the red csvt.. do you mean you have seen a red csvt around. cause i had a friend with a 98.5 red csvt. its no longer living though as of saterday

[morbid]

I have never seen a red one in person before... and didn't know there were any left around here. The reason I said it like that was one of the focus guys said he saw one last friday around Riggs and Lindsey and figured you must be him. What happened to your friends car?

[NickNick]

he got into a accident and it got totaled, front and back. that must have been him cause it happen late friday night, maybe saterday morning... i just picked mine up saterday afternoon.

[morbid]

That really sucks for him! Glad you were able to find one though.

[TheFordGuy]

Hi and welcome! :)

Greg

[Manch-VegasSVT]

well with the fate of your friends' car, I'd say Phoenix isn't the place for T-Red CSVT's as mine was totalled as well. I hope your luck is a little better though.

Welcome aboard, and if your friend still has some picking rights to his old car tell him to grab me the Drivers side skirt.

my ride is stock for now , I need to graduate and start working full time before I start dumping money, so it's just maintanence for now.

-Keith

[NickNick]

lol yeah, i hope so too cause there is a couple parts i might want to take, i would like that tranny and fix it up nice and well if its still in tact....

[NickNick]

anybody want to roll down to deer valley airport tonight, im working grave yard. let me know. 7th ave and deer valley road

[Nezerconezer]

Nope not going to work. Since I'm at work as well.

[hugoscsvt88]

I Own A Silver Contour Svt And I Live In Glendale Just Saying Watsup !!

[sk8token]

Welcome hugoscsvt88

[TheFordGuy]

Welcome! :)

Greg

[Rodewaryer]

Ok, stupid question. Where's a list of members, preferably by city? I'm seeing at least 7 of you guys just in this post about Az and I'm sure that's just the tip of the iceberg.

We had some pretty good fun on the last run, with 3 silver CSVT's along, putting the Focus attendance to shame.

The roads were absolutely amazing.

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7502/cnv0448lw1.jpg

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1791/cnv0456eg3.jpg

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9093/cnv0450wo3.jpg

[morbid]

Those roads look like they were really fun! I wish I could have made it.

I'm still having braking issues... as well as performance issues. I think I may have narrowed my performance issue down to a failing injector... but I'm not sure yet. The brakes have me baffled.... and I'm almost about to just start replacing parts.

Since the "location" field is free text, it's not really a perfect way to find other AZ people... but it's pretty much the only way. Click "Members List", "Search Members", "Advanced Search". Entering "AZ" in the location field seems to have brought most of us up, but also brings up some non-AZ people.

[Rodewaryer]

I think I already know the answer to my question, but what brake issue(s)?

If I can find some time I'll give that search a try.

What's the proper name for the metallic red CSVT color? I find myself partial to the metallic reds.......I know the green's supposed to be rare, but i'd have red thank you very much.

[morbid]

The red is "Toreador Red".

About my brake issues.... During normal driving, I have pedal resistance, and after a little bit, the pedal gives and the brakes feel more normal. I'm also not able to brake hard enough to engage the ABS (which should be easy with my new setup). This problem also existed prior to my brake upgrades.

I got really concerned at the last autocross, where I had absolutely no brakes at the high speed (~50mph) finish and had to drop out of the event. It really seems like it's vacuum related, but everything checks out. So far I've replaced the booster line (with check valve) and a new booster gromet, but that didn't do anything. I've also bled the entire system 4 times. Next, I'm going to try bleeding the master. If that doesn't do anything, then I'm wanting to run a vacuum gauge while I'm driving... since my prior tests were just in my garage. My guess would be that the booster somehow is leaking during driving, but works perfectly idling in my garage.

[TheFordGuy]

Yes, thats the color. My old one was T-red and was indeed a beautiful color.

Morbid, have you checked over for leaks after the cars has been running/driven for a bit? Seems like few things will surface after just an idle session.

Greg

[morbid]

If I remember correctly, I let the engine cool down for about 2-3 hours. That is a very good point though! Tomorrow I'll check vacuum after it's hot (dropping off the kids).

I also drenched every possible vacuum line, as well as joints and fittings in the intake assembly, with starter fluid.

I became frusterated and changed my focus over to my performance issue. That primarily is my knock sensor pulling timing as soon as I get on the gas. It doesn't appear to be valid ping/knock... but I do have a loud chatter comming from my fuel rail (probably an injector). I'm not sure if that's loud enough to set off the sensor though.

Here are some details related to the performance issue, all of which had no affect on the knock reading:
* I don't have any CEL's... which I keep hoping to get one so I know what's going on.
* Replaced the knock sensor and put plastic washers on either side... attempting to desensitize it.
* Long Term Fuel Trim on bank 2 does tend to be lean (more than bank 1), averaging around 1.2 (20% lean). Bank 1 averages around 1.0 - 1.05.
* Short Term looks good... and WOT is at 0.865 per the tune.
* I bumped the WOT fuel up 10%
* I ran almost a full tank of 100 octane (11.3 gallons). This should eliminate valid ping/knock caused by timing and EGR.
* I put the OEM tune back on
* I cleaned my MAF & K&N... then cleaned my MAF again a week later in case the new K&N oil contaminated it.
* Ran Seafoam through intake and crankcase. I *think* the engine is running better now.
* Currently 1/2 tank through Seafom in the fuel.
* I hit all accessible areas of the "stuff" in the engine bay with a stethescope... and the sound was most loud on the fuel rail under the UIM... towards the throttlebody side. Beyond the TB, the sound lessens. The sound sounds similar to the 2 accessible injectors, but they aren't nearly as loud. This is what leads me to believe it's a faulty injector. Based off the lean bank2 LTFT, I'd guess it's on the firewall side.

So... my next step is to run another can of Seafoam on the next gas fill and see if anything has changed after that. Tomorrow I'm also planning on rearranging my injectors.. moving the suspect injectors to the front and seeing if that affects my LTFT.. or anything.

I also have a steering issue... which doesn't seem critical. So, after basic troubleshooting, I've lowered it's priority below my brake and performance issues.

I still enjoy driving my car... but it's really pissing me off.

[Rodewaryer]

The red is "Toreador Red".

About my brake issues.... During normal driving, I have pedal resistance, and after a little bit, the pedal gives and the brakes feel more normal. I'm also not able to brake hard enough to engage the ABS (which should be easy with my new setup). This problem also existed prior to my brake upgrades.

I got really concerned at the last autocross, where I had absolutely no brakes at the high speed (~50mph) finish and had to drop out of the event. It really seems like it's vacuum related, but everything checks out. So far I've replaced the booster line (with check valve) and a new booster gromet, but that didn't do anything. I've also bled the entire system 4 times. Next, I'm going to try bleeding the master. If that doesn't do anything, then I'm wanting to run a vacuum gauge while I'm driving... since my prior tests were just in my garage. My guess would be that the booster somehow is leaking during driving, but works perfectly idling in my garage.


BTW, what's going on with this site? The login is good for like a couple minutes or what? I find little time to get to all the forums I visit and this one is pressing the irritating button........

OK, then.....
The booster was thinking along the right line, are you sure it's not the master cylinder? My son's has the same issue, he isn't happy with the way they feel. You guys went from 10.8's (I think) to 13's. I had 11.8's on my SVTF and went to 13 but they have excellent feel and even Nathan loves the feel when he drives my Focus. I must agree. However, he drives it pretty regulary on NFS runs and so far hasn't embarassed himself with many cars like Greggs turbo Contour (who was within close enough proximity to me to verify he wasn't taking it easy) the Mcoupe/Porsche 911/Lotus Elise of his regular run group. It sounds like you guys would benefit from a Master Cylinder upgrade.....

[morbid]

For your login... it sounds like your browser isn't keeping the cookie. I only have to (re-)login to this site if I don't visit for about 2 weeks.

My problem pre-existed my brake upgrades by about 6 months. It was barely noticable around the prior NFS and has gradually become worse. The problem actualy lessened a little with the bigger brakes. My rotors were in poor shape... and I was also hoping it was just one of the front calipers sticking. That was why I wanted to get a new kit... replacing as many potential problem areas as possible.

The recent autocrosses up until I replaced my brakes also had scary finishes (not much brakes) but the last course layout had many straights with minor brakes. Some of the other auto-x'ers thought the layout didn't leave much time to replenish the vacuum (almost always on the gas) and the small slowdown areas slowly used up my vacuum until it was completely depleted at the end of the course. When I pushed the brakes, the pedal didn't move at all. I had to engine brake for about 3-5 seconds before the pedal moved and I came to a stop.

Since I was having this problem before the upgrade... it seems like I'm not producing enough vacuum, or the booster (or check valve) is leaking vacuum. I'm not ruling out the master... but with the outcome of the last auto-x, I'm pretty sure it's a vacuum issue. The problem with that theory is that my idle vacuum looks good, the booster line+check valve was good (but replaced it anyways), and the booster holds vacuum with the vacuum pump attached directly to it.